farfan wrote:Why are we acting as if Madrid are already in the final ?

City have enough individual talent to trouble Madrid .

City is actually pretty evenly matched team.

Bayern may have only played one more tough match than Madrid if both reached the finals so i dont get this crying. Seems more like some people are scared their predictions are going to get bumped hard.

Madrid deserved to be there. End off

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Dunno about final, but it's probably not even Madrid's easiest route to the semis

Are we not going to talk about our group, PSG and a EL semi finalist

2011: Lyon - Tottenham - Barca
2012: CSKA - Apoel - Bayern
2013: United - Galatasaray - Dortmund
2014: Schalke - Dortmund - Bayern - Atletico
2015: Schalke - Atletico - Juve
2016: Roma - Wolfsburg - City

If City actually give a shit then i agree, i was surprised they beat PSG ( didn't watch either leg) because for months now they have looked like they are on early vacations and looking forward to the beach.

still can't understand this anti-madrid atmosphere, when the team can win anything these posters always gets salty, always want madrid to be the worst, so they can feel better about their crappy teams.

hope the rm gets a double, so some of you can disappear for a week or 2.

All in all I think top football has become so top heavy. Especially in Champions League. Top leagues could probably have 5-6 teams to improve the quality. All these nations like Denmark, Sweden, Cyprus etc need to play against eachother for like 2 spots.

Its clear Real rig the draws for a long time already no?

Seriously though they are quite lucky, more often than not getting the easy opponents...lucky bastards

I can only speak for myself, but personally i wouldn't disappear even if Sunderland won the CL

Football results don't effect me that much if i'm honest

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:If City actually give a shit then i agree, i was surprised they beat PSG ( didn't watch either leg) because for months now they have looked like they are on early vacations and looking forward to the beach.

They obviously give a shit about the CL especially at this stage.

farfan wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:If City actually give a shit then i agree, i was surprised they beat PSG ( didn't watch either leg) because for months now they have looked like they are on early vacations and looking forward to the beach.

They obviously give a shit about the CL especially at this stage.

Well they do now obviously, but before the PSG tie i genuinely didn't think they did. Never seen such a toxic " big " team tbh.

Uncle Flo got this.

Madrid gets favourable draws with respect to the quality of opposition left in the tournament. Not all the time but it happens, nothing inherently wrong with that.

You can only beat what's in front of you.

Plus it's not like you have to have the luck of the draw to avoid half a dozen great teams to have an "easy" path, they avoided two great teams, Barca and Juve, that the other semi-finalists had to deal with.

tbf Man United's draw in 2010 -11 was easier, they had chelsea in the semis, but in the round of 16 had marseille and schalke lol. in the group stages they had valencia and 2 nobody teams.

One of the easiest road to UCL final ever for sure. The only road that come close is 2011 United road - L16 Olympique Marseille, 1/4 Chelsea, 1/2 Schalke

And we should care why?  You win your group and you have great odds of getting an easier team in the round of 1/8.  In the round of 1/4, both Bayern and Madrid got manageable opponents while Atleti and City didn't... so it was 50/50 there.  Now, we had a 25% chance of landing City in the semis.

When you look at it statistically...  it's not like we beat some overwhelming odds to land these opponents.  We just weren't unlucky before the semis and we got somewhat fortunate for our semifinal draw.

matpol wrote:One of the easiest road to UCL final ever for sure. The only road that come close is 2011 United road - L16 Olympique Marseille, 1/4 Chelsea, 1/2 Schalke

The presence of Carlo's chelsea excludes that road from being considered easy .

farfan wrote:

matpol wrote:One of the easiest road to UCL final ever for sure. The only road that come close is 2011 United road - L16 Olympique Marseille, 1/4 Chelsea, 1/2 Schalke

The presence of Carlo's chelsea excludes that road from being considered easy .

We were crap at that moment tho

1. lol at people giving so much disrespect to City. They are a very talented team.

2. The Real hate is funny. Would you prefer they had Bayern in the semis? What happened last time Real and Bayern met anyway?

If Real win the CL it really doesn't matter what their road to get there looked like. Atletico nearly went out against PSV, and Barcelona couldn't beat them? PSG were touted as some all-world top 4 team right behind the likes of Barcelona and Bayern and now that they lost to City they're scrubs, Bayern almost lost to Benfica AND Juventus, etc. etc.

I wish there was a quote like the one from 'A League of Their Own' for football, but honestly...there's no crying in baseball. Unfortunately there's a lot of crying in football.

I don't think Cruijf is in any way discrediting Madrid, saying they don't deserve it, saying that Real should be facing a different team. there is a conspiracy or there is something inherently wrong with their route

He's simply asking if any team has gotten such an easy route to the CL final as far as teams go and my answer to that is...I think this is the easiest, yeah. I can't really think of another route that was as easy.

What about Leverkusen-Milan-Chelsea (Barcelona 11-12) and Marseille-Chelsea-Schalke (United 10-11)?

it's not our fault 2nd spot representative of EPL, bunfeslisga, and serie A are extremely scrub to u.

any team that in last16, quarter or semi, i believe they earned it there fair and square.
A team in quarter final, is a quarter finalist quality.

zigra wrote:What about Leverkusen-Milan-Chelsea

lol wat

What's the matter?

zigra wrote:What's the matter?

So easy, ask Bayern fans about it too.