According to RMC sport PSG want to sign Toni Kroos amd they have already contacted Perez, who is not against selling him for around 45 millions.

They also add that. Kroos is already aware as he is also courted by man yoo and man city and he is thinking abt moving

Good riddance

Not sure I am a fan of this. Personally think he is being criminally under utilize in our weird ass team structure but if PSG does bid for him for that amount, well, word.

Well, Kroos as a DM has not been impressive to me in Madrid. We can and we need something else in that role, and more and more people, from the team to the fan are seeing that we need something else at that position. Not because Kroos is a bad player, but because in the transition type football we play, he struggles too much. Watch him go to PSG in a possession heavy team and look like the best DM in footy. this will happen, mark my word

For us, he was no fit. So now if you dont play him at DM, he has to be one of your CMs. If we are planning to sell, then it means we are playing to buy someone else and i would not be surprised if it's Pogba.

just my interpretation of things.

It's not like Motta is very good defensively. BUT, imo Motta has a much better feel for moving the ball than Kroos. That's the replacement here.

For Madrid... we need to change our midfield makeup anyhow. We probably need to move one of Isco or James too and add a proper CM or two as well.

I don't know. Until we finish up all out transfers and see where we stand, it's hard to rate any individual move. We have too many issues to do that this season.

Too much of the same type of player has definitely caught up to us that no manager can fully rectify so yeah, I agree, we do need to change personnel.

Kroos maybe an "easy" sell since he is obviously not a DM playing DM (and being really professional about it hence why I hope we keep him) but what about Isco and James? Who do we keep? Do we even keep either?

Must admit, kinda exciting and very depressing at the same time.

The biggest issue is Ronaldo.  He needs to go.  He destabilizes our defense obviously... but now he also destabilizes the attack since he won't play wide.

If there's someone we need to sell, it's him.

I both like Isco and James, but they have no future in the direct future we have. By that i make reference to what Zidane wants. 3 man midfield, 3 man forward. If we are smart we finally build a team based of what the manager wants (we havent done it since Mourinho), i.e. Real CMs and Real Wingers.

What we lack most now are CMs. Isco and James are attacking midfielders who dont fit quite well in a 3 man midfield since they lack the engine and the intelligence to play the role. There are other midfielders we can go for like Pjanic who can be creative but are accustomed to playing deep. Pogba would fit well in a 3 man midfield. we already have Modric.

THere would be no problem keeping Kroos for that role, we would just need to add more box to box players.

In Europe and by extension big league games, what wins is having team that is by definition able to sustain and to provide lots of speed and intensity. Technique just top it all of. Our midfield has gotten eaten so many times in big games it's sad to see. Casemiro helps a lot.

if croos goes then we need to replace him with a midfielder that attacks and defends equally, by attacks i mean dribble like isco and goes near the box, passes like kroos and modric and defends with body like casimero.

no more deep lying shit.

who fits that bill, mmm, there are few in my mind, but  i will see what you guys suggest first.

I agree Kross as well as Isco and / or James have to go. We all seem to want a proper DM and that while Casemiro can play a DM role, he is a backup not a starter. Problem is there are few to none Busquets out there. For that reason, we need to change entire midfield with the exception of Modric (IMO, Casemiro and Kovacic are ok as backups).

We also need changes up front, at least Ronaldo. We have to bear in mind that this summer maybe the last opportunity for 3 years and thus Perez needs to make moves that form the team for 3 years. the only moves that will be allowed is to bring back players on loan or canteras. therefore a Ronaldo (or a Navas) that will be getting long in tooth (regardless of how well they play this year (or next) need to be replaved this summer. I would add Pepe to this list, but since he is really a backup and that we will have Vallejo and Llorente available if needed there is no need to change him for next season.

45 million for kroos is a good deal. it's more than what we bought him for, almost double i believe, if not more (i can't remember the exact figures). kroos is a good player, and at psg, as long as they keep matuidi, kroos won't be tasked with playing as a dm. with matuidi and motta, he'll have some balance. a good player, but never played in his favorite position with us. ofcourse, these are just rumors, i find it difficult that psg will spend 45 mill to sign kroos, when they still have questions on who should replace zlatan up front. i don't see it happening at that price

Verratti - Kroos - Matuidi is a world class midfield.

Mr Nick09 wrote:Well, Kroos as a DM has not been impressive to me in Madrid.

This sentence sums up the monumental stupidity of your club and its fans, including, no offense, yourself.

everyone cna throw insults around like monkey throw their shit, if you are not willing to justify your insults with arguments, then respectfully gtfo.

fyi, as far as i am concerned, i think the plan initially from the club was to smooth out the transition from Alonso to Kroos as pivote overtime, and not to abruptly make him a DM from day one. At the time, playing Kroos-Alonso-Modric could have been a formidable midfield, but Alonso decided he wanted to go, thus forcing Kroos into a pivot role from day one.

I should also add that betting on Kroos to transition his game into the type of pivot Alonso is, was a very very smart bet to make. You call it stupid, i call it the bet. If it's not panning out the results required, whether by our style or his performances, there should be no hurt feelings from each side when it comes to the separation.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:Well, Kroos as a DM has not been impressive to me in Madrid.

This sentence sums up the monumental stupidity of your club and its fans, including, no offense, yourself.

Very insightful post, and the arguments you presented are just formidable, quite redolent of a man who truly thinks before he speaks and not ever does he waste people's time with useless, groundless insults. Keep up the good work, mate.

sell james before kroos

The Demon of Carthage wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:Well, Kroos as a DM has not been impressive to me in Madrid.

This sentence sums up the monumental stupidity of your club and its fans, including, no offense, yourself.

Very insightful post, and the arguments you presented are just formidable, quite redolent of a man who truly thinks before he speaks and not ever does he waste people's time with useless, groundless insults. Keep up the good work, mate.

My post is just plainly true though. It is a sentence betraying monumental stupidity, and pretty self-evidently so.

Hence I actually saved everybody some time by leaving out redundant explanations.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

The Demon of Carthage wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:


This sentence sums up the monumental stupidity of your club and its fans, including, no offense, yourself.

Very insightful post, and the arguments you presented are just formidable, quite redolent of a man who truly thinks before he speaks and not ever does he waste people's time with useless, groundless insults. Keep up the good work, mate.

My post is just plainly true though. It is a sentence betraying monumental stupidity, and pretty self-evidently so.

Hence I actually saved everybody some time by leaving out redundant explanations.

If you disagree with him, you should explain why, otherwise gtfo.

Honestly, if this sale actually happens, I don't really see any hard feelings or bad blood. If Hans feels inclined to get salty to see one of his own being herded off (which again, it is just a rumour, nothing concrete) then I do not fault him for.

That being said, Kroos playing DM or pivote is not working out as initially thought for the club, a position which Kroos himself bought into and I would give him real credit, he has put in an honest and sometimes very good shift in a position/role he really is not accustom to. Nick pretty much explained it as best as any fan could.

You can call the club stupid (which we can be) or us fans (which we also can be) but for the very least, put a little effort into explaining why.

selling kroos and keeping one of isco or james is a step backwards if the 4-3-3 is still the plan, case-modric-kroos is a proper midfield that can be build upon, with intelligent purchases and not mega buys that gonna tie our hands like cr/bale does.

@chad, i don't think isco nor james is safe. its just we haven't heard any news/rumors about potential buyers, for them. they as well as a host of others could be sold for the right fee....and we don't know what next season's formation will be, it will depend on who comes in, as well as whether or not we keep zidane

[mod]@Hans: I'm sorry, but this is the Real Madrid section, and your post is definitely a bit too much. Adding "no offence" doesn't make it better, I'm afraid. [/mod]

Interesting development, not sure if he's best fit to play in a Motta-like role, i guess time will tell

In the meantime, i'm curious to see who Real will get in his stead

I personally don't find it is "too much", just if you're gonna call out us on practicing stupidity, an explanation would be nice. Even if it is a troll explanation (to which of course, we'll respond in kind).

Later. Don't have the time now. Just wanted to troll now.
Punishment is deserved.