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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
The guy has played against Liverpool on multiple occasions.
But of course to the this pleb whoever puts on a Liverpool shirts is suddenly a beast and can do no wrong.
But of course to the this pleb whoever puts on a Liverpool shirts is suddenly a beast and can do no wrong.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
I wouldn't say he's crap, and he's only 24 (which is a baby in defender's years) with a lot of very positive tools and talents. A lot of defenders are written off when playing for crap sides or early on in their careers before putting it all together.
I'm not bothered one way or the other about the loan move especially given the circumstances, but in the right team set-up sometimes even 'average' players can look really good if it suits their strengths. Look at the huge difference in Lovren between Rodgers and Klopp for example. Under Klopp he's been our best defender (better than Sakho, yes) and under Rodgers people were ready to put him on a pike.
I'm interested to see how the loan deal works out, but as far as I'm concerned it's just a stopgap until the eventual free signing of Matip in the summer.
I'm not bothered one way or the other about the loan move especially given the circumstances, but in the right team set-up sometimes even 'average' players can look really good if it suits their strengths. Look at the huge difference in Lovren between Rodgers and Klopp for example. Under Klopp he's been our best defender (better than Sakho, yes) and under Rodgers people were ready to put him on a pike.
I'm interested to see how the loan deal works out, but as far as I'm concerned it's just a stopgap until the eventual free signing of Matip in the summer.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
He was really bad against us for Soton when we killed them 6-1. He was the worst player on the pitch when we beat Cardiff in the Suarez season.
I don't remember him ever actually being a competent player. Maybe when he was first coming up as a youngster he showed potentially but mostly it's the fact that's he's phyiscally huge and can win some headers.
I like our own Jordan Williams as a CB much more and would rather he be recalled and get minutes.
Meh, at least it's not permanent. I hope I don't have to see him after injured CBs are back.
I don't remember him ever actually being a competent player. Maybe when he was first coming up as a youngster he showed potentially but mostly it's the fact that's he's phyiscally huge and can win some headers.
I like our own Jordan Williams as a CB much more and would rather he be recalled and get minutes.
Meh, at least it's not permanent. I hope I don't have to see him after injured CBs are back.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
You mean bad team displays or bad teams in general will have their defenders look bad against a team that is much superior offensively in isolated games? Any defender can have bad games. Sakho has had some absolutely disgusting games for Liverpool does that make him a bad player? I will reserve my judgment for when he actually plays for Liverpool rather than writing him off before he steps on the field for us. With that said if you've watched every game he's played in the PL, and focused on him, and have never seen anything positive from him maybe you are justified.
Again, team organization and coaching go a long way to defining how a defender looks in any given team regardless of ability.
Again, team organization and coaching go a long way to defining how a defender looks in any given team regardless of ability.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
rwo power wrote:You might trust in Kloppo to get the best out of unusual player choices. ^^CBarca wrote:So, in other words, Liverpool
You can stop it with this Kloppo overhype now. Or we can wait at the end of the season if you want.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Liverpool agree deal in principle to sign Schalke defender Joel Matip on summer free transfer - Various
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
RealGunner wrote:Liverpool agree deal in principle to sign Schalke defender Joel Matip on summer free transfer - Various
Good news. Free signing of a player whose certainly better than Skrtel, Lovren, and Kolo. Would complement Sakho well I feel.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
What makes him certainly better than Lovren? The same Lovren who has certainly been better than Sakho this season.
Let's wait and see how good he is when he comes over. I like that most people rate him highly though so it's an encouraging signing...and free.
Let's wait and see how good he is when he comes over. I like that most people rate him highly though so it's an encouraging signing...and free.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Dude you have to stop with this Lovren thing. He's had like a total of 5 decent games this season.
You forget this side of Lovren this season.
You forget this side of Lovren this season.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Lovren was already mediocre 3 years ago in france, how he made it to Liverpool is a goddamn miracle. terrible scouts you have lmao
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Matip isn't better than Skrtel nor Sakho. There is a reason why he is a free agent this summer.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
he did not want to sign a new deal, that's all.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
A Chinese club, Jiangsu Suning , wants to overpay Inter and Milan scraps
Luiz Adriano is going in this club for 15 mln ( probably Milan will replace him with Borriello)
And they made a bid of 20 mln for Guarin . And 6 mln + bonus every year to the player ffs
but he wants 8-9
Luiz Adriano is going in this club for 15 mln ( probably Milan will replace him with Borriello)
And they made a bid of 20 mln for Guarin . And 6 mln + bonus every year to the player ffs
but he wants 8-9
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Everyone in their right frame of mind is trying to get out of Schalke tbh.
Draxler before, Prince back to Milan, Sam to Liverpool next, Matip and Sahne, then Höwedes.
Geis and Goretzka are next.
Only The Hunter will finish his career at Schalke, against all odds
Draxler before, Prince back to Milan, Sam to Liverpool next, Matip and Sahne, then Höwedes.
Geis and Goretzka are next.
Only The Hunter will finish his career at Schalke, against all odds
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
RealGunner wrote:Matip isn't better than Skrtel nor Sakho. There is a reason why he is a free agent this summer.
I didn't say Matip was better than Sakho. I rate sakho pretty highly.
Skrtel on the other hand I honestly base my judgement of a person understanding of football based on how highly they rate Skrtel.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Robespierre wrote:A Chinese club, Jiangsu Suning , wants to overpay Inter and Milan scraps
Luiz Adriano is going in this club for 15 mln ( probably Milan will replace him with Borriello)
And they made a bid of 20 mln for Guarin . And 6 mln + bonus every year to the player ffs
but he wants 8-9
Some Chinese club offered us 8m for Tiote, these people are literally insane lmao.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Vasco's signing Yago Pikachu presented today
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYonvMbWcAAtKg-.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYonvMbWcAAtKg-.jpg
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Robespierre wrote:A Chinese club, Jiangsu Suning , wants to overpay Inter and Milan scraps
Luiz Adriano is going in this club for 15 mln ( probably Milan will replace him with Borriello)
And they made a bid of 20 mln for Guarin . And 6 mln + bonus every year to the player ffs
but he wants 8-9
Some Chinese club offered us 8m for Tiote, these people are literally insane lmao.
ffs
For me they find the players with the Advanced Research on Football Manager ( does it exist still ? I don't play since 2003) , otherwise I can't explain their movements
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
RealGunner wrote:Vasco's signing Yago Pikachu presented today
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYonvMbWcAAtKg-.jpg
Glaybson Yago ? those made up brazilian names are becoming ridiculous .
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
According to German Sky, Man City (read: Pep) want BVB's kid Weigl to replace Yaya
Pep stealing Tuchels work ffs.
Pep stealing Tuchels work ffs.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
If AVB can fraud his way into top-level management using FM, why can't they..
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Robespierre wrote:Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Robespierre wrote:A Chinese club, Jiangsu Suning , wants to overpay Inter and Milan scraps
Luiz Adriano is going in this club for 15 mln ( probably Milan will replace him with Borriello)
And they made a bid of 20 mln for Guarin . And 6 mln + bonus every year to the player ffs
but he wants 8-9
Some Chinese club offered us 8m for Tiote, these people are literally insane lmao.
ffs
For me they find the players with the Advanced Research on Football Manager ( does it exist still ? I don't play since 2003) , otherwise I can't explain their movements
Yeah it does, can't say i have played it since Bojan was the best player on the game but it's still around.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Curtinho wrote:You realize of course that it's a loan deal in a time of injury crisis, right?
Were they supposed to buy a world class centreback in January before Klopp even knows who fits properly into his team and who doesn't? or who will be healthy?
What are you judging Caulker's ability from anyway?
I refuse to believe Liverpool can't snag someone better on a loan deal. Or throw in some youngsters or something, they can't be much worse.
Caulker played for Spurs, I watched probably 15+ games of him not including his games for QPR. So I feel as if I can have a say, and I don't think a person here would disagree with my assessment of him, Art aside, and he doesn't really count.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Inter considering Soriano if Guarin leaves (Sky)
And now, the same Chinese team that go LA for 15m, (trying to get Guarin as well for 15m ), is trying to get Gervinho as well lol
And now, the same Chinese team that go LA for 15m, (trying to get Guarin as well for 15m ), is trying to get Gervinho as well lol
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Hopefully Gervinho asks for an entire island again, that was good bantz.
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Re: 2016 Winter Transfer Rumours Mk. I
Soriano would be a legit choice . Pls Guarin go away , 20 mln for an inconsistent player , old 30 years , Brozovic' s reserve , with his contract close to expire would be an unreal deal
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