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Post by rwo power Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:17 am

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Now that the Bundesliga clubs are in their training camps and working to get their fitness back and while the first test matches are well under way, I decided to set up this fresh and shiny thread for the Bundesliga Rückrunde 2014/15 (the second part of the Bundesliga season after the winter break).

The next matchday will start on Friday, the 30 January 2015 at 20:30 GMT+1 with the top match VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern München.

Final table of the Hinrunde:
Spoiler:


Links to the Club Sections / Threads:

Bundesliga:
FC Bayern München - http://www.goallegacy.net/f17-fc-bayern-munich
Borussia Mönchengladbach - http://www.goallegacy.net/t16981-borussia-monchengladbach
Borussia Dortmund - http://www.goallegacy.net/t17083-borussia-dortmund
FC Schalke 04 - http://www.goallegacy.net/t17011-fc-schalke-04
Bayer Leverkusen - http://www.goallegacy.net/t17061-bayer-04-leverkusen
Hannover 96 - http://www.goallegacy.net/t17153-hannover-96

Lower Division Clubs:
Rot-Weiß Oberhausen - http://www.goallegacy.net/t23960-rot-weiss-oberhausen
FC St.Pauli - http://www.goallegacy.net/t17169-fc-st-pauli
TSV 1860 München - http://www.goallegacy.net/t22701-tsv-1860-munchen


Football terms German-English (for the hipsters):
http://www.bundesliga.com/en/liga/news/2013/0000226598.php


The Old Bundesliga Threads:

Nr.1 - http://www.goallegacy.net/t25-the-bundesliga-thread
Nr.2 - http://www.goallegacy.net/t24201-the-bundesliga-thread
Nr.3 - http://www.goallegacy.net/t28823-the-bundesliga-thread
Nr.4 - http://www.goallegacy.net/t34572-the-bundesliga-thread
Nr.5 - http://www.goallegacy.net/t36200-the-bundesliga-thread


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Post by RealGunner Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:41 am

Rückrunde? hmm
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Post by rwo power Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:42 am

rwo power wrote:Bundesliga Rückrunde 2014/15 (the second part of the Bundesliga season after the winter break).
English lacks a handy word for that. In German we have "Hinrunde" (first part of the season, matchdays 1-17) and "Rückrunde" (matchdays 18-34).
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:49 am

Just like first and second leg are called 'Hinspiel' and 'Rückspiel'.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:59 am

If anybody wonders what Michael "I don't want to manage small clubs anymore" Laudrup is doing these days - he's keeping himself busy.
Today he was coaching the "Qatar Allstars" team that played and lost a test against Bayern, on top of his steady gig at the Lekhwiya Sports Club.
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Post by Winter is Coming Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:13 am

What was the score?
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Post by farfan Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:18 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:If anybody wonders what Michael "I don't want to manage small clubs anymore" Laudrup is doing these days - he's keeping himself busy.
Today he was coaching the "Qatar Allstars" team that played and lost a test against Bayern, on top of his steady gig at the Lekhwiya Sports Club.


Laudrup coaches rugger now ? hmm
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Post by rwo power Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:57 am

Test match results for Borussia M'gladbach so far:

Sunday 11 Jan 2015:
BMG 2:0 Arminia Bielefeld

Tuesday 13 Jan 2015:
BMG 2:3 SV Werder Bremen
BMG 2:4 Gençlerbirliği Spor Kulübü (Ankara)

And no, Yann Sommer didn't play in either of them as he was given some time to rest after he played the full 27 matches in the season so far.

Next matches will be
Sa 17.01.2015, 15:00 GMT+1: Rot-Weiss Essen vs BMG
Sa 24.01.2015, 15:30 GMT+1: 1. FC Kaiserslautern vs BMG
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Post by Bellabong Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:54 am

Awww you made the effort to link the 1860 thread.
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Post by rwo power Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:17 am

Of course. I would even link a Rot-Weiß Essen thread if there was one, as much as it would pain me. :coffee:
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Post by Sri Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:21 am

rwo power wrote:
rwo power wrote:Bundesliga Rückrunde 2014/15 (the second part of the Bundesliga season after the winter break).
English lacks a handy word for that. In German we have "Hinrunde" (first part of the season, matchdays 1-17) and "Rückrunde" (matchdays 18-34).


Reverse round (of fixtures)? hmm

Correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding was that the Rückrunde fixtures are the reverse legs of the Hinrunde fixtures (although not necessarily in the same order).

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Post by rwo power Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:26 am

You are right. The matches of the "Rückrunde" are the "Rückspiele" ("reverse fixtures", "second legs"?) of the season. And they are played in the same order as the Hinrunde.

But "reverse round" sounds somewhat weird, too, I would say ^^
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:31 am

rwo power wrote:Of course. I would even link a Rot-Weiß Essen thread if there was one, as much as it would pain me. :coffee:


I am making one right now. Copy-pasting from wikipedia as we speak.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:33 am

rwo power wrote:You are right. The matches of the "Rückrunde" are the "Rückspiele" ("reverse fixtures", "second legs"?) of the season. And they are played in the same order as the Hinrunde.

But "reverse round" sounds somewhat weird, too, I would say ^^


let's just call it "offense round" and "revenge round"
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Post by rwo power Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:47 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:I am making one right now. Copy-pasting from wikipedia as we speak.
Meh!

Hapless_Hans wrote:let's just call it "offense round" and "revenge round"
I guess then both people speaking English and German would be confused. So better use the proper term and give an explanation I'd say. Won't harm the hipsters to learn some German football terms either Razz

By the way: http://www.bundesliga.com/en/liga/news/2013/0000226598.php (not 100% perfect, but a start ^^)


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Post by Sri Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:48 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
rwo power wrote:You are right. The matches of the "Rückrunde" are the "Rückspiele" ("reverse fixtures", "second legs"?) of the season. And they are played in the same order as the Hinrunde.

But "reverse round" sounds somewhat weird, too, I would say ^^


let's just call it "offense round" and "revenge round"


Does that imply that all teams which lost against Bayern will exact revenge from them? Also, does that go on to imply that BVB will exact revenge from all the teams which trashed them? hmm

If yes, I REALLY like the sound of that Very Happy

(I know that wanting revenge and actually exacting revenge are two different things Sad )

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Post by Sri Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:49 am

I think reverse fixtures is the safest and closest bet, then. :coffee:

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Post by rwo power Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:52 am

Well, you can be sure the teams would like to take revenge on Bayern. And I hope that at least some of them can steal a couple of points from them ^^
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:54 am

Hinrunde is where someone is offended, and Rückrunde is where they can have their revenge.

Hence, "offense round" and "revenge round".

RWO, not that it would harm anyone to learn German words (I think, not sure), but we have the unique opportunity to just make up and introduce words and translations as we please.

So I'd say we stick with using 'Grottenkick' even in English sentences (missing it in the Bundesliga dictionary btw), but then say "the revenge round has started with a flurry of away wins yesterday" as if that really was a thing Very Happy
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Post by rwo power Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:56 am

Wopuldn't it be even cooler to introduce some German words into the English language? So let's give them "Hinrunde" and "Rückrunde", especially as the latter even comes with an umlaut Razz
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Post by Sri Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:58 am

I löve ümläüt-ed wörds. Very Happy

My favourite Arsenal signing in recent years has been Kim Källström. No kidding. :coffee:

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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:59 am

let's just claim the words are Hünründe and Rückründe hmm
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Post by rwo power Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:02 am

srigooner wrote:My favourite Arsenal signing in recent years has been Kim Källström. No kidding. :coffee:
Now I understand why everybody outside Germany is after Gündogan and why they wanted Schürrle and Özil, too. hmm
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Post by Sri Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:05 am

rwo power wrote:
srigooner wrote:My favourite Arsenal signing in recent years has been Kim Källström. No kidding. :coffee:
Now I understand why everybody outside Germany is after Gündogan and why they wanted Schürrle and Özil, too. hmm


It's also why Götze and Müller are rated tbh. Now you see the light Thumbs up

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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:09 am

well you always want what you don't have. That's why we are at the moment intending to assemble the squad with the most 'ø's in the players' names
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