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How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
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How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
So Klose is Germany top scorer ever , the WC top scorer , and he won a WC as starter. basically he reached the peak with his NT, it's difficult to ask for more
But how do you rank really Klose among German CFs ever?
The best? There is Gerd Muller . The 2nd? Rummenigge and Klinsmann can be rated inferior to him ?
Voeller?
and maybe I forget something..
what would be your rank about German CFs?![hmm](/users/3313/22/97/24/smiles/2238782717.gif)
But how do you rank really Klose among German CFs ever?
The best? There is Gerd Muller . The 2nd? Rummenigge and Klinsmann can be rated inferior to him ?
Voeller?
and maybe I forget something..
what would be your rank about German CFs?
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
Well, Gerd Müller is Nr.1 ever as it seems atm (IMO it is unlikely anyone will top his goals/games ratio anytime soon in Germany), while Miro Klose ist the Nr.2 so far (until some new guy shows up who will excel, as things always go.). IMO one should also factor in his longevity - it is a major feat to be on top for so long.
BTW, here's the list at the DFB homepage:
http://www.dfb.de/die-nationalmannschaft/statistik/rekordtorschuetzen/?no_cache=1
BTW, here's the list at the DFB homepage:
http://www.dfb.de/die-nationalmannschaft/statistik/rekordtorschuetzen/?no_cache=1
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
it is because of it. wikipedia ![Laughing](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif)
"Primo marcatore di tutti i tempi della Germania: 71 gol."
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_Klose
so they wrote an inexactitude
Anyway I don't know even if I put him on podium![hmm](/users/3313/22/97/24/smiles/2238782717.gif)
Muller Rummenigge Klinsmann![:coffee:](/users/3313/22/97/24/smiles/2859867778.gif)
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"Primo marcatore di tutti i tempi della Germania: 71 gol."
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_Klose
so they wrote an inexactitude
Anyway I don't know even if I put him on podium
![hmm](/users/3313/22/97/24/smiles/2238782717.gif)
Muller Rummenigge Klinsmann
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
Hm. Dunno if I would put Rummenigge and Klinsi on the podium. Uwe Seeler would need to get a shout, too.
But then, considering the fact that Thomas Müller already has 24 goals in 60 (!) matches just turned 25 of age, he might be able to catch up to Miro Klose (although not Gerd Müller as he scores less per game) if he stays free of injuries.
But then, considering the fact that Thomas Müller already has 24 goals in 60 (!) matches just turned 25 of age, he might be able to catch up to Miro Klose (although not Gerd Müller as he scores less per game) if he stays free of injuries.
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
what i like about klose, and a lot of old school german strikers is there's nothing flashy about him, just comes gets the job done and gets out...fans love to see flash; a player dribbling hundred players from one end to the other, even when it hampers the team's chemistry....the guy produces for his national team even when other club superstars don't or can't...and he's been doing it even before germany became a powerhouse again. i can't rank him above muller (the original), but he's definitely in the conversation with rumme, klinsi & voeller
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
very underrated, because he doesn't do pointless stepovers or cute spins with the ball.
he goes in and gets the job done, also doesn't hurt that he is mr. fairplay.
he goes in and gets the job done, also doesn't hurt that he is mr. fairplay.
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
If we only count NT accomplishments then he's probably top 3. Definitely behind Gerd Muller. It's arguable which two of Klinsmann, Rummenigge, Klose, and Voller get the other two spots.
If you count club level as well. He's been pretty meh to get ahead of any of Rummenigge, Klinsmann, and Voller.
If you count club level as well. He's been pretty meh to get ahead of any of Rummenigge, Klinsmann, and Voller.
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
Actually even his life record (so far) is amazing. I sorted the strikers according to minutes per goal. For Klose you might notice how many assists he added to his pure goal tally (btw - I just double checked the number for Gerd Müller. It is really given as 107 o_O).
Life Record (club) according to transfermarkt.de:
Gerd Müller: 522 matches, 463 goals, 107 assists, 101 minutes per goal
Uwe Seeler: 261 matches, 155 goals, 36 assists, 151 minutes per goal
Rudi Völler: 542 matches, 261 goals, 19 assists, 175 minutes per goal
Jürgen Klinsmann: 505 matches, 234 goals, 27 assists, 182 minutes per goal
Kalle Rummenigge: 453 matches, 217 goals, 35 assists, 183 minutes per goal
Miro Klose: 588 matches, 222 goals, 120 assists, 193 minutes per goal - 2014/10/29
Life Record (club) according to transfermarkt.de:
Gerd Müller: 522 matches, 463 goals, 107 assists, 101 minutes per goal
Uwe Seeler: 261 matches, 155 goals, 36 assists, 151 minutes per goal
Rudi Völler: 542 matches, 261 goals, 19 assists, 175 minutes per goal
Jürgen Klinsmann: 505 matches, 234 goals, 27 assists, 182 minutes per goal
Kalle Rummenigge: 453 matches, 217 goals, 35 assists, 183 minutes per goal
Miro Klose: 588 matches, 222 goals, 120 assists, 193 minutes per goal - 2014/10/29
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
Those assists numbers look off. I think it's a modern era statistic so you can't really use it to compare the older players.
Anyways, what I like about Klose is how he kept improving so late in his career. His game became a lot more well rounded.
Anyways, what I like about Klose is how he kept improving so late in his career. His game became a lot more well rounded.
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
Probably a bit above Bierhoff level. I consider Voller No.1 for Germany all time Strikers.
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
My top 3 would probably be Müller, Völler, and Klose, in that order, but TBH I can't really pretend to have seen as much of Seeler as I have of the other three.
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
Yes, I agree about Klose a bit above Bierhoff..
Bierhoff was more powerful , Klose more intelligent ... Bierhoff as all the players of great physical strength have a great drop when they reach 30+years ( he was great in his prime though, I loved him , in his prime he was Serie A top scorer with Udinese ahead the Ronaldo 98 ffs ) , contrarily Klose could compensating to physical decline with his smartness and movements and so he lasted more as we have seen also with Lazio and WC this year
Voeller was excellent , he was inserted in AS Roma hall of fame recently , but anyway tbf I 've always rated Rummenigge as the best German CF since Gerd, but probably I was influenced also by my father tbh. He's legend for Inter fans even if he won nothing with us
Bierhoff was more powerful , Klose more intelligent ... Bierhoff as all the players of great physical strength have a great drop when they reach 30+years ( he was great in his prime though, I loved him , in his prime he was Serie A top scorer with Udinese ahead the Ronaldo 98 ffs ) , contrarily Klose could compensating to physical decline with his smartness and movements and so he lasted more as we have seen also with Lazio and WC this year
Voeller was excellent , he was inserted in AS Roma hall of fame recently , but anyway tbf I 've always rated Rummenigge as the best German CF since Gerd, but probably I was influenced also by my father tbh. He's legend for Inter fans even if he won nothing with us
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Re: How do you rank Klose among German CFs ever?
What I like about most of these players mentioned, including Klose, is that they are old-fashioned poachers who aren't particularly versatile, but their skill-set is perfectly adapted to scoring goals. They are pure finishers, and you can't help but like someone who has one job to do and does it well.
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