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Post by El Gunner Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:37 am

comparing Vini situation to Djokovic and CR7 rofl

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Post by Winter is Coming Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:10 pm

Yeah no idea how someome can defend racism here rather he's a prick or not. Spain and Italy have been bad for this and should be called out and punished more. It's all fine to trash talk but if your being racist or insulting one's family you've crossed the line. A racist is a racist.
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Post by Vibe Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:12 am

Vini getting rekt once again, apparently he was the worst player on the field according to some ratings.

4 losses in 5 games, is Brazil in danger of not even qualifying for WC? Their coach says they'll be in the final though.

Rodri in the drivers seat for B-d'Or now?
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Post by Myesyats Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:58 pm

GIVE ME LIGA FLORENTINO REFS OR I RETIRE

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Post by Pedram Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:25 pm

Brazil sucks balls because they have too much talent up front but very little in the middle of the pitch, the midfield quality dropped off hard.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Sep 11, 2024 4:28 pm

Messi took a team with Lavezzi, Enzo Perez and Biglia to the WC final. Vinicius performance with Brazil is inexcusable. Basically a non factor in that team. It's not even average it's downright dog shit. This is why Rodri deserves the B'dor more.

Can't just completely disregard NT performance, Neymar was carrying Brazil with bums like Oscar, Fred. Paulinho and Hulk.
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Post by elitedam Wed Sep 11, 2024 4:54 pm

Prime Pele would look like shit for Brasil right now. Everyone sucked. It is the most poorly trained team that I can remember.
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Post by Pedram Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:30 pm

Myesyats wrote:Messi took a team with Lavezzi, Enzo Perez and Biglia to the WC final. Vinicius performance with Brazil is inexcusable. Basically a non factor in that team. It's not even average it's downright dog shit. This is why Rodri deserves the B'dor more.

Can't just completely disregard NT performance, Neymar was carrying Brazil with bums like Oscar, Fred. Paulinho and Hulk.

Are you comparing Vinicius to the greatest footballer ever? i mean he's good but not that good. Laughing
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Post by Clutch Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:08 pm

Myesyats wrote:Messi took a team with Lavezzi, Enzo Perez and Biglia to the WC final. Vinicius performance with Brazil is inexcusable. Basically a non factor in that team. It's not even average it's downright dog shit. This is why Rodri deserves the B'dor more.

Can't just completely disregard NT performance, Neymar was carrying Brazil with bums like Oscar, Fred. Paulinho and Hulk.
let's also not forget messi with Argentina never went well until they got a competent coach. There have been times where Argentina were looking like they might not qualify

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Post by Arquitecto Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:14 pm

leave lavezzi out of the mention he was incredibly skilled even if inconsistent and made top defenders blush many times.

though vini's poor stints for Brasil do not seem tactical on my eye he just does not do the fundamental things well during matches, though indeed this Brasil is poorly trained and coached.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:32 pm

Pedram wrote:
Myesyats wrote:Messi took a team with Lavezzi, Enzo Perez and Biglia to the WC final. Vinicius performance with Brazil is inexcusable. Basically a non factor in that team. It's not even average it's downright dog shit. This is why Rodri deserves the B'dor more.

Can't just completely disregard NT performance, Neymar was carrying Brazil with bums like Oscar, Fred. Paulinho and Hulk.

Are you comparing Vinicius to the greatest footballer ever? i mean he's good but not that good. Laughing

Point being he should be doing much better even in a dysfunctional team. I'm not even talking about his g/a record for Brazil because he doesnt seem to even get basics right but Raphinha plays in the same team and outperforms him
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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:42 pm

Would love it, Vini gets snubbed n Rodri gets it, make it happen...errr the oil money owners of Man C? Or the corrupt Spanish head of football or whatever? Very Happy
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Post by farfan Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:06 pm

Myesyats wrote:
Can't just completely disregard NT performance, Neymar was carrying Brazil with bums like Oscar, Fred. Paulinho and Hulk.


Carried them to what? They always fell short when the going got tough, most of the times against weaker opposition.


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Post by farfan Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:28 pm

On an unrelated note, how bad is ChatGPT at retrieving basic information? Laughing I asked it for a summary of Neymar's results at the Copa America so that I can destroy @Myesyats with facts and logic but it completely fabricated a series of events for a competition that Neymar wasn't even called up to lol (Copa Centenario 2016)

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Post by Myesyats Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:45 pm

Neymar literally was Brazil, you can't destroy anything because you have no football knowledge and probably rate Vinicius higher than Neymar (chatgpt is awful, bing chat and perplexityAI are better, the paid versions of chatgpt are probably better tho)

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Post by Myesyats Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:04 pm

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Post by farfan Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:58 pm

Myesyats wrote:Neymar literally was Brazil, you can't destroy anything because you have no football knowledge and probably rate Vinicius higher than Neymar (chatgpt is awful, bing chat and perplexityAI are better, the paid versions of chatgpt are probably better tho)

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Imagine talking about fOoTbAlL kKnDoWdGe and then bringing up a player's individual stats with 0 context as evidence of him "carrying" his national team Laughing  Accruing impressive stats in friendlies and qualifiers with a big team like Brazil and then falling short when it matters (the tournaments) is not carrying the team. Some call this the Lukaku special. You can add Ronaldo to that category as well, especially in recent years.

This has nothing to do with Vinicius who's obviously abysmal with the NT. It's the notion  of Neymar carrying Brazil that I find absurd. We're talking about a player who only had one standout tournament in his career, never set foot in a semi final match, and saw his team win in its only major trophy in recent memory when he wasn't there (Copa America 2019).
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Post by Clutch Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:12 am

I'd say confederations cup 2013 and world cup 14 he carried the team but that's about it for ney

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Post by Myesyats Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:37 pm

farfan wrote:
Myesyats wrote:Neymar literally was Brazil, you can't destroy anything because you have no football knowledge and probably rate Vinicius higher than Neymar (chatgpt is awful, bing chat and perplexityAI are better, the paid versions of chatgpt are probably better tho)

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Imagine talking about fOoTbAlL kKnDoWdGe and then bringing up a player's individual stats with 0 context as evidence of him "carrying" his national team Laughing  Accruing impressive stats in friendlies and qualifiers with a big team like Brazil and then falling short when it matters (the tournaments) is not carrying the team. Some call this the Lukaku special. You can add Ronaldo to that category as well, especially in recent years.

This has nothing to do with Vinicius who's obviously abysmal with the NT. It's the notion  of Neymar carrying Brazil that I find absurd. We're talking about a player who only had one standout tournament in his career, never set foot in a semi final match, and saw his team win in its only major trophy in recent memory when he wasn't there (Copa America 2019).
By carrying I meant he made Brazil look like a team and many rival players have commented over the years that Brazil had a fear factor mainly due to his presence. Ultimately winning trophies is a team effort and comes down to the dying minutes like Germany-Argentina in 2014. A few minutes and several Higuain misses separated Messi from being regarded as a failure or as a success NT-wise in that year. Vinicus doesnt even warrant a starting spot.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:18 pm

Imagine thinking the best player in the world does not warrant a starting spot. Maybe he should threaten to quit in multiple pressers so that he can get a series of penalties and favourable decisions to win competitions.

Vini should fake injuries when he gets with the NT. They don't deserve him. He can make us RM happy shitting on Barca season in season out
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Post by Myesyats Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:57 pm

He already cries every few months to get favorable decisions despite having white privilege and yet he has more haircuts than goals this season. I cant believe the brainrot that is going on these days
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:14 pm

Imagine judging his output after 4 games. Peak Myesyats :facepalm:
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Post by farfan Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:36 pm

Clutch wrote:I'd say confederations cup 2013 and world cup 14 he carried the team but that's about it for ney


WC 2014 was his only good tournament but even calling that a carry job would  be very generous. He was excellent  in the group stage but hardly stood out in the knockout stages. Brazil was bailed out by Julio Cesar against Chile and their only goal came from a defender, David Luiz. In the quarter finals he spent the entire match flopping around before getting injured just before the final whistle and missing the semis. It was once again David Luiz who came to the rescue with this ridiculous free kick:

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Post by Myesyats Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:39 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Imagine judging his output after 4 games. Peak Myesyats :facepalm:

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Post by Clutch Fri Sep 13, 2024 6:15 am

farfan wrote:
Clutch wrote:I'd say confederations cup 2013 and world cup 14 he carried the team but that's about it for ney


WC 2014 was his only good tournament but even calling that a carry job would  be very generous. He was excellent  in the group stage but hardly stood out in the knockout stages. Brazil was bailed out by Julio Cesar against Chile and their only goal came from a defender, David Luiz. In the quarter finals he spent the entire match flopping around before getting injured just before the final whistle and missing the semis. It was once again David Luiz who came to the rescue with this ridiculous free kick:

that free kick was insane, I remember going nuts watching that at a bar

No one does all that well internationally unless your team is already good tbh.

Rodri probably winning Ballon 'dor, media does not like vini and when's the last time a black player won, weah? Laughing They're not going to let vini stand up there and give a speech about racism now that I think about it. Rodri has this

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