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Post by Ganso Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:48 pm

speaking of nerman,he plays tonight against argentina for the Copa Rocca.I hope he puts on a show at their home.


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Post by Guest Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:14 pm

Crimson wrote:I would love Hazard holy crap though overkill much haha

Yeah... it would be insane if Hazard came and Sahin was healthy.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:24 pm

Why would we sign Hazard during the winter break? makes little sense.

The obsession about Neymar is getting silly, if the kid is taking a piss, they will report about it. It has to stop somewhere.

The big picture is, Neymar wont be available till next summer, and nothing will happen before that. All parties are aware of that, Neymar did have his eyes set on Madrid before he decided to stay one more season, so i dont care much from the barca drama. We also have a lot of pull to convince him.

If he does end up going somwhere else, then so be it, we will shift the focus on someone else.

My personal take on Hazard is that for now, he is more of a midfielder than he is a winger, and for midfielders, i do rate the ones having innate playmaking higher. I have grown to understand that it's the most important thing no matter how you look at it, they are the smartest people with the greater weapons to use. And im talking about playmaking added to other necessary skills like pace, dribbling, flair, discipline, work rate etc... I'm not yet sure Hazard fits that category, maybe it's too early to say for sure. At the moment, he is showing that he is an explosive dribbler more than anything else, i wish to see more.


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Post by Zealous Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:53 pm

Zidane is a big fan of Hazard so I'd assume we would ask around regardless of whether or not the Nerman deal was dead.
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Post by Pedram Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:12 pm

The thing about Neymar is that he is more a SS than a winger. if i were to replace Di Maria with someone else i'd buy a natural winger.

I also feel it would be better for us to acquire a player who can help our midfield. IMO in term of getting involved in build up play Hazard is better than Neymar. he plays much deeper.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:26 pm

I disagree, we dont need an out and out winger, we need complete all around footballer. If Neymar is an SS that goes wide, understand he has to chase back, gets involved in the build, can score and pass, then why do we need an out and out winger for?

Our attackers need to be as complete as possible. Ideally, each of them should be the total package, able to pass, score and playmake.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:31 pm

Hazard offers more than just being an out and out winger, but I agree that Neymar offers more.
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Post by SuperMAG Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:45 pm

------------------------Benzema/Higuain/Morata
Marcelo/Neymer----------Ozil/Canales/Sarbia------------Hazard/Sarbia
------------Bastian/Gago/Antilop----------Ramos/Mvila
Cissokho/Arbeloa/Boateng----------------------Abate/Arbeloa/Smalling
----------------Boateng/Smalling---------Pepe/Varane
-----------------------------Casillas/Adan/Jesus

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:52 pm

please no fantasy football here, you can open another thread if you wish
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Post by SuperMAG Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:59 pm

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Post by Shamirr Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:47 am

I agree with Nick, Neymar offers a skill set that, on paper, looks to fit our style very well. What I truly like about him is his classic flare play. He enjoys doing things that are prolly unnecessary and/or inefficient in the grander scheme but he does them anyway because it adds beauty and is fun! I think as a team we are missing that a lil bit...
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Post by Zealous Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:45 am

Super Mag still insisting that Ramos should be a CM :facepalm:

Also I agree with Shamirr it's fun to watch Neymar play, that's something I'd like to see more from us.
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Post by Ganso Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:30 am

Hes one hour away from committing a crime(rape) banana

Why isnt the banana dancing ffs....
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:16 am

Ganso wrote:Hes one hour away from committing a crime(rape) banana

Why isnt the banana dancing ffs....


Sometimes it doesn't sometimes it does...one time it was for Mole but it wasn't for me..it currently is though

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Post by Ganso Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:18 am

yeah its dancing again....its probably just trolling me because we drew 0-0 :facepalm:
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:33 am

some nice dribbles in between players.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:33 am



this is actually a pretty great piece of ownage


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Post by Ganso Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:47 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:some nice dribbles in between players.

love the part where he gets off the 4 man mark lol

pitch was extremely shitty,a lot of sand.
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Post by Zees Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:57 am

not many players do this Cool
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Post by guest7 Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:05 am

How are we gonna get him in the starting XI if we change into a 4-3-3
Many here wants a 4-3-3, and I think we might do the change, and I think the media speculation was correct but Sahin got injured (sahin was the reason for 4-3-3)

So this is what I think was Mous plan by the start of the season:

Ramos - Pepe - Carvalho - Marcelo
Xabi - Khedira - Sahin
Ronaldo - Benzema - Özil

So let's say if Neymar comes... is he supposed to replace Benzema? Ronaldo? Or Özil?
Or maybe we stick to 4-2-3-1... But if Nerman is coming I dont think we can stick to the 4-3-3 idea unless Sahin replaces Xabi and Özil goes deeper, or Sahin replaces Xabi in a 4-2-3-1 or Sahin will be benched aswell
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Post by Ganso Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:18 am

the problem with the 4-3-3 is that ozil isnt very effective as a winger and he wouldnt play as a cm.In the 4-2-3-1 this could happen

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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:25 am

if neymar came we would be forced to play a 4-2-3-1 or else he would be a super sub.

i think for now even though i like the 4-3-3 best a 4-2-3-1 will be used as the primary formation utilizing xabi and either sahin or sami. but against tough opponents namely cl and barca we should use the 4-3-3 with sahin xabi and sami

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Post by S32TABLANCA Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:29 am

Neymar wont walk into the XI. My belief is that in the first year, he will have to adapt (there is a lot of adapting to do) as well as fight with Di Maria, Higuain and whoever for the right spot. Then, once he is done with that, we can have:

-------Sahin-Xabi
-Neymar-Ozil-Ronaldo
--------Benzema

Or maybe Ronaldo and Neymar switch wings. Of course, then (eventually) Ronaldos time to be replaced would come...
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Post by guest7 Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:38 am

Ganso wrote:the problem with the 4-3-3 is that ozil isnt very effective as a winger and he wouldnt play as a cm.In the 4-2-3-1 this could happen

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Sahin + Xabi won't work. Xabi doesnt work without a DM next to him, I've doubts that those two will work together
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Post by estrella bernabeu Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:41 am

Saetablanca wrote:Neymar wont walk into the XI. My belief is that in the first year, he will have to adapt (there is a lot of adapting to do) as well as fight with Di Maria, Higuain and whoever for the right spot. Then, once he is done with that, we can have:

-------Sahin-Xabi
-Neymar-Ozil-Ronaldo
--------Benzema

Or maybe Ronaldo and Neymar switch wings. Of course, then (eventually) Ronaldos time to be replaced would come...
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CR dropped for Neymar scratch
So after Altintop, Neymar will bench CR !!!! Better clown up in Santos till OG
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Post by S32TABLANCA Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:53 am

omarish wrote:
Ganso wrote:the problem with the 4-3-3 is that ozil isnt very effective as a winger and he wouldnt play as a cm.In the 4-2-3-1 this could happen

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Sahin + Xabi won't work. Xabi doesnt work without a DM next to him, I've doubts that those two will work together

I dont know how much youve been paying attention, but Xabi does the DM stuff for us. Even when partners with Lass of all people, he stays behind and Lass is the one upfield. Weve been trying to find a DM to partner Xabi (Khedira is no DM), now we figured out how it rolls and we're gonna try Sahin is my understanding.

estrella bernabeu wrote:
Saetablanca wrote:Neymar wont walk into the XI. My belief is that in the first year, he will have to adapt (there is a lot of adapting to do) as well as fight with Di Maria, Higuain and whoever for the right spot. Then, once he is done with that, we can have:

-------Sahin-Xabi
-Neymar-Ozil-Ronaldo
--------Benzema

Or maybe Ronaldo and Neymar switch wings. Of course, then (eventually) Ronaldos time to be replaced would come...
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CR dropped for Neymar scratch
So after Altintop, Neymar will bench CR !!!! Better clown up in Santos till OG

Um, I didnt really get what you were trying to say. Neymar isnt going to replace Ronaldo obviously, probably Sarabia or Jese will have that opportunity by the time Cristiano is like 30... but that is way in the future. Cant think so much ahead in football.
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