Sturridge vs Benzema

chad4401 wrote:izzy debating with you is tiresome this is the first season he is a starter and once he finally got going he has held his play up since so argument done.

before madrid he was every good, why cause he played consistently, he has scored in the last 3 games for france since guess what izzy? playing every week at club level

he still show up in a lot of big games but as usual your eyes are closed.

and for all of cr consistency and 40+ goals a season madrid has won a grand total of bleep all, so keep pretending that cr scores hattricks in semi finals bro .

You still can't answer simple questions can you?

1st season? Didn't even make the France WC squad.
No, he was a starter in his 2nd season and lost his spot.
He was a starter in his 3rd season and retained it.
4th season? Lost his spot AGAIN.
5th season? Poor first half, better second half.
This equals, inconsistency.

Before Madrid? Lyon? LYON? Please, who cares what he did for Lyon, that team is small compared to Real Madrid and you can play well for Lyon but it means shit when you join a bigger club and your every game is critiqued and Benzema has proven that in his time here, he can not sustain playing at a high level consistantly.

He scored in his last 3 games for France? Why don't you remind me how long he went NOT scoring for France?

He still show up in a lot of big games? He's been here for 5 years and you can name about 5 big games he's shown up for. 5 years, 5 big games. Give this guy a medal.

I love how you keep bringing up Ronaldo and try to denegrate him to propel Benzema. So funny. Ain't gonna work brah, so please keep trying.

wow izzy your really gunning for this 1 your only proving my point, that this is the only season since he came to madrid, he has been a consistent starter and kept his play up, so anything including rotating with higs is meaningless as far as consistency goes and here is a stat for you.

after is first season he has scored 20+ goals a season not consistent enough for you? or do you consider that stat padding .

no matter which way you try to spin it to make benzema look inconsistent, without mentioning the inconsistent playing time. shocker

the point he still showed up in more big games than he has flopped all throughout his career, so keep going on about france or weight control , if it makes cr seems like less of a choke artist to you , again his mentality isn't weak.

chad4401 wrote:wow izzy your really gunning for this 1 your only proving my point this is the only season since he came to madrid, he has been a consistent start and kept his play up, so anything including rotating with higs is meanless and here is a stat for you

after is first season he has scored 20+ goals a season not consistent enough for you? or do you consider that stat padding .

no matter which you try to spin it to make benzema look inconsistent without mentioning the inconsistent playing time shocker

the point he still showed up in more big games than games he has flopped all throughout his career, so keep going on about france or weight control , if it makes cr seems like less of a choke artist to you , again his mentality isn't weak.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Consistant starter? He. Lost. His. Spot. In his second season he LOST IT, because he was very inconsistant. :lol:Just like his 4th season. 2 seasons where he was the 1st choice pick and he couldn't even establish himself as the NO.1 CF? :lol:5 years here and it has taken him to his 5th year where his only competition is a RAW Morata for him to secure his postion? (Even then, fans were begging for Morata to start instead.)

20+ for one season? WOOOOW! Consistency and level of play he could NOT maintain for more than ONE year. Inconsistant.

Still blaming playing time and not realising you are making my point for me.
I'll simplify it; He was not getting consistant playing time because of his inconsistant play. He was NOT able to secure the NO.1 starting spot until his 5th year.

Sure he has. Big games, LOOOOOOOOOL. So now it's 'he's shown up in more big games throughout his career than he's flopped?' You can't make this stuff up man.

Extremely inconsistant for France, Inconsistant throughtout his time in Madrid.

Inconsistant.
Can not maintain a high level of play.
Not relied upon by his Nation or club team.
Continoous questions about his work ethic.
Effort is poor.
Weight issues.

..... but this guy is strong mentally?

For league, DS15, for CL GOATzema

izzy this why debating with you is a waste a time, your taking this personal obviously like every benz debate, all those smilies just cover up the crap your writing.

he had trouble adjusting to a new league in his first season omg what garbage player kill him ffs .

again still scores 20+ goals after his first season with inconsistent playing time, weighing a ton, being a scape goat every time cr flops dat weak mentality .

he still shows up in more big games than he has flopped no matter what you say.

and something your smilies can't change either cr will always be one of the biggest choker in the sport, oh forgot big games doesn't count as a valid argument for you izzy

chad4401 wrote:izzy this why debating with you is a waste a time, your taking this personal obviously like every benz debate, all those smilies just cover up the crap your writing.

he had trouble adjusting to a new league in his first season omg what garbage player kill him ffs .

again still scores 20+ goals after his first season with inconsistent playing time, weighing a ton, being a scape goat every time cr flops dat weak mentality .

he still shows up in more big games than he has flopped no matter what you say.

and something your smilies can't change either cr will always be one of the biggest choker in the sport, oh forgot big games doesn't count as a valid argument for you izzy

HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Notice how I didn't mention his 1st season with Madrid, only that he didn't make the WC squad. I never said anything about his performances with Madrid in his 1st season.

Still bringing up Ronaldo?
Karim Benzema is extremely inconsistant and his time at Madrid has proven that. His inconsistency and lack mental strength is there for all to see as it cost him his startig spot at Madrid and with the France NT. (He actually at one time lost his place to Giroud )

5 years at Madrid, can only name about 5 big games he has shown up for..... Big game game player.

His work ethic is questionable, he isn't relied up, he struggles with his weight and dosen't have the abilty to consistantly play at a high level for a consecutive number of seasons like the top strikers. He fluctuates. He is inconsistant. Weak mentality.

Please keep mentioning Ronaldo, you just make my argument even stronger because it highlights that you know i'm right and for you to try and defend Benzema's inconsistency and weak menatlity, you need to bring up Ronaldo in a thread that has nothing to do with him.

argument started with cr remember? but as usual you couldn't help yourself with a benz rant, yes he got left out of a garbage france squad poor guy , anyway same boring over exaggerated rants from izzy filled is plot holes, again his mentality ain't weaker than cr's sue me.

We are really the new Juventus section

chad4401 wrote:argument started with cr remember? but as usual you couldn't help yourself with a benz rant, yes he got left out of a garbage france squad poor guy , anyway same boring over exaggerated rants from izzy filled is plot holes, again his mentality ain't weaker than cr's sue me.

Silly silly chad.

Valkyrja wrote:Benzema is too weak mentally to build a team around.

chad4401 wrote:benzema mentality ain't weaker than cr tho or does one need a strong mentality to stat pad?  

benz>easily

chad4401 wrote:yes tell me about all the cl finals big game player cr got us too, cr was notorious as a big game choker couple years ago, didn't he miss his pen against bayern and one against chelsea, he didn't even take one when Portugal got eliminated , cr has come up short in a lot of big games

benz>easily is @ the op clowns lay off the tears girls

Silly silly boy.

You brought up Ronaldo, no one else, just you. Again,

Le Samourai wrote:We are really the new Juventus section

its bound to happen when u have so many fans in one place

Chad, I feel like we need to have a serious talk about how to effectively be a Karim ambassador. I mean, I dislike Cristiano as much as the next guys, but there's a way to go about these things.

You're a soldier for Benzema, but we need to weave a more coherent narrative   

benzema easily

Madrid fans dominating this thread :proud;

sam the point is you can't ask for consistent performances without consistent playing time, how is that hard to grasp?

chad4401 wrote:sam the point is you can't ask for consistent performances without consistent playing time, how is that hard to grasp?  

Sure, I mean I myself have argued the same.

Instead of saying Benzema > CR in the first post, say that. Let the former percolate naturally into the mind of the reader. Such is the Dao of a Benzema ambassador.

The mental weakness comment is actually to our advantage. Most people will just ignore it anyway, as it's fairly innocuous. But it's also highly bumpable. So when he does something big (For which there is opportunity soon) Come back in, and bump the thread. Your post will more momentum   

Benzema stronger than Ronaldo mentally? Calma Chad, calma.

I think I have read just about everything now.

Benzema stronger mentality than Ronaldo.

I have seen enough of this thread.

To answer the OP's question, I would take Benzema in my team as imo he is a more complete player. Sturridge is a class scorer though. Dare I say, a more reliable scorer than Benzema but Benzema generally offers more with his overall gameplay.

Wow Madrid fans are really embarrassing in this thread, it genuinely is like the old Juventus days.

Couple it with the fact that most don't post in their own sections, like good old standard glory mercenaries .

Abramovich wrote:Wow Madrid fans are really embarrassing in this thread, it genuinely is like the old Juventus days.

Couple it with the fact that most don't post in their own sections, like good old standard glory mercenaries .

that's because we created our own forum and departed these lands, so quiet. And you guys are whimps, stop hiding behind the "madrid fans" moniker and call out Chad properly.

And you guys mixing all kind of actually interesting arguments about players mental strength over this pos thread.

Say what I see, only decent ones are JD and Josh.

Anyways back on topic, I'd pick Benzema as he's more complete imo.

i said benzema mentality isn't weaker=its stronger clowns and no matter how you clowns beat around the bush cr has flopped more big games he has showed up in fact, cr plays every time he is fit, he is the focal point, takes 10 shot a game and plays zero defence, yet come semi finals time guess who is choking , and cr plays like garbage half time the time anyway and like bale has proven recently scoring=playing well, sorry if i have the nerve to not be a sheep has cr who had 3 chances in a row to get us to the CL finals has failed but fanboys running around talking about the greatest of stat padding without winning shit .

chad4401 wrote: i said benzema mentality isn't weaker=its stronger clowns and no matter how you clowns beat around the bush cr has flopped more big games he has showed up in fact, cr plays every time he is fit, he is the focal point, takes 10 shot a game and plays zero defence, yet come semi finals time guess who is choking , and cr plays like garbage half time the time anyway and like bale has proven recently scoring=playing well, sorry if i have the nerve to not be a sheep has cr who had 3 chances in a row to get us to the CL finals has failed but fanboys running around talking about the greatest of stat padding without winning shit .

Again, bringing up Ronaldo in a thread where he is not even mentioned, except by you.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL at equating mentality to only big games.

Someone didn't learn.

Le Samourai wrote:

chad4401 wrote:sam the point is you can't ask for consistent performances without consistent playing time, how is that hard to grasp?  

Sure, I mean I myself have argued the same.

Instead of saying Benzema > CR in the first post, say that. Let the former percolate naturally into the mind of the reader. Such is the Dao of a Benzema ambassador.

The mental weakness comment is actually to our advantage. Most people will just ignore it anyway, as it's fairly innocuous. But it's also highly bumpable. So when he does something big (For which there is opportunity soon) Come back in, and bump the thread. Your post will more momentum   
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i never said benz> cr mentality i clarified that multiple times that benz> was meant for sturridge not my fault izzy has a hard on for benzema and other are too stupid to read, cause they are dying to show how funny they are

izzy wrote:

chad4401 wrote: i said benzema mentality isn't weaker=its stronger clowns and no matter how you clowns beat around the bush cr has flopped more big games he has showed up in fact, cr plays every time he is fit, he is the focal point, takes 10 shot a game and plays zero defence, yet come semi finals time guess who is choking , and cr plays like garbage half time the time anyway and like bale has proven recently scoring=playing well, sorry if i have the nerve to not be a sheep has cr who had 3 chances in a row to get us to the CL finals has failed but fanboys running around talking about the greatest of stat padding without winning shit .

Again, bringing up Ronaldo in a thread where he is not even mentioned, except by you.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL at equating mentality to only big games.

Someone didn't learn.

izzy your a clown stop trying so hard your bringing up benzema saying he is weaker than cr mentally yet when cr fails you stfu ,

since your too stupid to understand val rates cr and he say benz is weak mentally, so i said he ain't weaker than cr mentally do i need to spell it out for you clown, and big games don't count for mental strength , will give it a rest you clown

chad4401 wrote:izzy your a clown stop trying so hard your bringing up benzema saying he is weaker than cr mentally yet when cr fails you stfu ,

since your too stupid to understand val rates cr and he say benz is weak mentally, so i said he ain't weaker than cr mentally do i need to spell it out for you clown, and big games don't count for mental strength , will give it a rest you clown

You're real stupid. A thread about Benzema and I shouldn't bring him up yet it's ok for you to bring up CR because Val likes him?
Are you kidding me?

That's just stupid.

You're so sensitive when it comes to Benzema it's hesterical to read.
Again, your comprehension skills must be called into question.

I never said big games don't matter when it comes to mental strength, I said, basing mental strength soley on big games is stupid and I listed the other things to consider.

But of course, the Benzetard missed that post.



Silly little Chad. No Sports around to coddle you and look at how you react.

Chump. Why am I even entertaing a weak poster like you? Does anyone even listen to anything you have to say?

From now on, I won't.

yawn* why must you go on a benz rant everytime even tho you hate him, why are you in this thread its so weird, it like it hurts you.... so sad izzy , trying so hard to be funny by flooding your posts with smilies , while ignoring all of cristiano big games don't count ronaldo, anyway for all the rubbish you been rambling about, benzema is still not weaker mentally than cr