http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/barcelona-given-ban-on-transfers-for-the-next-two-windows-after-breaching-transfer-and-registration-rules-9232486.html

Ter Stegen

www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/organisation/news/newsid=2313003/

The FIFA Disciplinary Committee has sanctioned the Real Federación Española de Fútbol (RFEF) and Spanish club FC Barcelona for breaches relating to the international transfer and registration of players under the age of 18.

The sanctions follow investigations initially conducted by FIFA Transfer Matching System GmbH (FIFA TMS) over the course of last year and subsequently by the FIFA Disciplinary Committee as part of disciplinary proceedings. The RFEF and FC Barcelona were found to have violated several provisions concerning the international transfer and first registration of non-Spanish minors with the club, as well as other relevant regulations with regard to the registration and participation of certain players in national competitions. The investigations concerned several minor players who were registered and participated in competitions with the club over various periods between 2009 and 2013.

Currently, the main provision relating to the protection of minors in the context of international transfers is art. 19 of the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (the “Regulations”). According to art. 19, international transfers of players are only permitted if the player is over the age of 18. However, the same article stipulates that international transfers of minor players are permitted under three limited circumstances, and such exceptions may only be granted after evaluation by the sub-committee of the Players’ Status Committee.

In this respect, the Disciplinary Committee emphasised that the protection of minors in the context of international transfers is an important social and legal issue that concerns all stakeholders in football. Above all, the committee highlighted that while international transfers might, in specific cases, be favourable to a young player’s sporting career, they are very likely to be contrary to the best interests of the player as a minor. On the basis of this analysis, the committee concluded that “the interest in protecting the appropriate and healthy development of a minor as a whole must prevail over purely sporting interests.”

The Disciplinary Committee underlined that FIFA takes the protection of minors in football very seriously. The protection of minors is one of the key principles included in the agreement concluded between FIFA, UEFA and the European Commission in 2001. The Disciplinary Committee acknowledged that young football players are vulnerable to exploitation and abuse in a foreign country without the proper controls. This particular fact makes the protection of minors in football by the sport’s governing bodies, especially by FIFA, even more important.

With regard to the case in question, FC Barcelona has been found to be in breach of art. 19 of the Regulations in the case of ten minor players and to have committed several other concurrent infringements in the context of other players, including under Annexe 2 of the Regulations.

The Disciplinary Committee regarded the infringements as serious and decided to sanction the club with a transfer ban at both national and international level for two complete and consecutive transfer periods, together with a fine of CHF 450,000. Additionally, the club was granted a period of 90 days in which to regularise the situation of all minor players concerned.

With regard to the RFEF, the Disciplinary Committee determined that the association had also violated art. 19 of the Regulations and other provisions in the context of the transfer and first registration of certain minor players. In this respect, the RFEF was sanctioned with a fine of CHF 500,000 and granted a period of one year in which to regularise their regulatory framework and existing system concerning the international transfer of minors in football.

In addition, the RFEF and the club were issued with a reprimand in accordance with art. 14 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code.

The web-based Transfer Matching System (TMS) became mandatory for all international transfers of professional male players within the scope of eleven-a-side football in October 2010. As early as 2009, the use of TMS was obligatory in all applications for a first registration of a minor or an international transfer involving a minor in accordance with art. 19 of the Regulations.

FIFA TMS, founded as a FIFA subsidiary in 2007, established a compliance programme in 2010 to ensure that all international transfers of professional football players are conducted through TMS in accordance with the Regulations, and to control the integrity of club and association behaviour and data in TMS. Cases involving violations of the Regulations, in particular Annexes 2 and 3, are identified and investigated and, where applicable, are then forwarded to the FIFA Disciplinary Committee for evaluation and decision. FIFA TMS monitors transfer activity using internally-developed market intelligence, external sources and information received from the FIFA Players’ Status & Governance and Disciplinary & Governance departments.

My thread without breaking news in it was better IMO

My thread got more replies (thanks to you )

So this really means no Ter Stegen? Barca stuck with Pinto and Bartra

What will happen with Ter Stegen? Is it possible that FIFA/UEFA have already approved that transfer and thus they'll let it slide? If not thats very good news for either Valdes or Pinto


Mes Que un Club

I'm not getting to excited. Something similar happened with Chelsea when they signed Kakuta from Lens and eventually they got away Scot free. Same thing might happen again.

We probably could see the ban get reduced on appeal.

Werent Chelsea banned for a year too ? Correct if i'm wrong but i havent followed it very closely.

What will happen with Ter Stegen? Is it possible that FIFA/UEFA have already approved that transfer and thus they'll let it slide? If not thats very good news for either Valdes or Pinto


Mes Que un Club

S wrote:We probably could see the ban get reduced on appeal.

Werent Chelsea banned for a year too ? Correct if i'm wrong but i havent followed it very closely.

Chelsea's got rescinded completely

Wouldn't surprise if same happens again.

Chelsea were banned for more then two windows i beleive, but our case was very different to this one. From memory (so i could be wrong on some things here) Lens complained to FIFA that Chelsea signed Kakuta illegally and whatever evidence they provided was enough for a transfer ban to be emposed. Chelsea appealed the ban at the Court of Arbitration for Sport who found Lens' case to be a load of bull and had the ban overturned. That of course is putting it very simply.

What was the issue about Chelsea though ? They signed Kakuta outside the transfer window or something ?

fatman123 wrote:Chelsea were banned for more then two windows i beleive, but our case was very different to this one. From memory (so i could be wrong on some things here) Lens complained to FIFA that Chelsea signed Kakuta illegally and whatever evidence they provided was enough for a transfer ban to be emposed. Chelsea appealed the ban at the Court of Arbitration for Sport who found Lens' case to be a load of bull and had the ban overturned. That of course is putting it very simply.

Ah,ok.

Yeah, this Neymar case definitely looks like a more serious issue than Chelsea's.

And Kakuta flourished at Chelsea and went on to become the best whatever_position_he_plays_in in the world

S wrote:

fatman123 wrote:Chelsea were banned for more then two windows i beleive, but our case was very different to this one. From memory (so i could be wrong on some things here) Lens complained to FIFA that Chelsea signed Kakuta illegally and whatever evidence they provided was enough for a transfer ban to be emposed. Chelsea appealed the ban at the Court of Arbitration for Sport who found Lens' case to be a load of bull and had the ban overturned. That of course is putting it very simply.

Ah,ok.

Yeah, this Neymar case definitely looks like a more serious issue than Chelsea's.

This is not because of Nerman, this is because of them illegally singing under 18s.

Surag its nothing to do with Neymar....

Its do with breaches of transfer and registration rules of players under 18.

Is this legit?

phew lucky as, barca wont be allowed to buy anymore CDM and converting them into CB.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Surag its nothing to do with Neymar....

Its do with breaches of transfer and registration rules of players under 18.

Excuse me.Dint read the article ,automatically assumed it.My apologies.

In that case ,i  agree with you.We'll probably see their ban getting rescinded just like Chelsea's.

Forza wrote:Is this legit?

Considering it is April 2nd and has been posted in FIFA.com, I would say it is legit. Whether Barca will actually get the full punishment in the end is another story though.

Forza wrote:Is this legit?

Since both sources say the 2nd of April, I think it is.

Also, goes without saying but no trolling in this thread. All troll posts will be removed.

Good summary of the Chelsea case
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1248554/Chelsea-transfer-ban-lifted-Lens-accept-1m-Gael-Kakuta-row.html

In short:
>At 15 Kakuta singed a pre-contract with Lens
>Before he signed a professional contract with Lens he signed for Chelsea
>Lens complained to FIFA that Chelsea offered Kakutas family big money for him to move to Chelsea and thus break his pre-contract (more than likely true) and demanded 4.25mil compensation
>Chelsea given two window ban and ordered to pay Lens 115k compensation
>Pre contract wasnt legally binding and thus Chelsea went to appeal to the CAS
>One week before the case, compensation of 1mil was agreed on and Lens dropped the case and thus the transfer ban was lifted

Interesting side note; at this time Lens were in desperate need of 10mil and had lodged complaints with FIFA that Porstsmouth owed them money for two players

Pinto to be the 1st keeper until he is 40   

S wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Surag its nothing to do with Neymar....

Its do with breaches of transfer and registration rules of players under 18.

Excuse me.Dint read the article ,automatically assumed it.My apologies.

In that case ,i  agree with you.We'll  probably see their ban getting rescinded just like Chelsea's.

No worries.... i myself when i first heard the news thought it was about Neymar as well

fatman123 wrote:What will happen with Ter Stegen? Is it possible that FIFA/UEFA have already approved that transfer and thus they'll let it slide? If not thats very good news for either Valdes or Pinto


Mes Que un Club

Indeed, Mes que un club! A club where the fans can make a president resign when he has done morally wrong things, unlike at Chelsea, who btw did the same thing

really hope ter stegen's still coming. What a colossal fk up.