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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
Arsenal, quite simply are Liverpool's bogey team. There is not a team I fear more than Arsenal (Wenger) when it comes to LFC as all the years of Wenger mastering us and Henry destroying our defence has instilled a core mentality to which only resonates conviction whether at Emirates or Anfield.
It even goes beyond Rafa's struggle against Wenger as even under Evans, Houllier and Kenny we struggled versus the Gunners as the only win was through Frimpong jeopardizing their whole game with a red card to which we won rather narrowly.
Which is why my fury on the West Brom draw was inconsolable as not only we seem to lose points just before we face Arsenal, yet we lose the cushion that can be produced in risk of dropping points at Arsenal.
Anfield or no, the place is no fortress as seeing the difference between the sides, Arsenal is a superior team in all compartments, collectively.
It even goes beyond Rafa's struggle against Wenger as even under Evans, Houllier and Kenny we struggled versus the Gunners as the only win was through Frimpong jeopardizing their whole game with a red card to which we won rather narrowly.
Which is why my fury on the West Brom draw was inconsolable as not only we seem to lose points just before we face Arsenal, yet we lose the cushion that can be produced in risk of dropping points at Arsenal.
Anfield or no, the place is no fortress as seeing the difference between the sides, Arsenal is a superior team in all compartments, collectively.
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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
Neville was over the top with his comments about Mourinho. It's not long ago that a Guardiola-coached side did this at "Fortress Etihad":
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In other news:
@SkyFootball: Joe Kinnear has resigned as Newcastle's director of football.
@SkyFootball: Joe Kinnear has resigned as Newcastle's director of football.
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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
I would have fancied our chances to take 9/9 if we had Fit and Firing Theo And Aaron[esp Theo as a big game player ;(] but 7 would have been still great had we beaten Saints
no matter who is fit or not must beat Utd @Home regardless
no matter who is fit or not must beat Utd @Home regardless
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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
Manchester Citys road to "success" has been quite similar to Madrid.
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Ref did City a favour
This should have been a red
This should have been a red
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Ref would never hand out a red for a shirt pulling, unless it was a reckless challenge with intention to play the ball. Unlike Prem League, this silly shit is seen everyday in La liga.
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McAgger wrote:Cmon City please nail the coffin with Chelsea and Mou in it and send it to outer space.
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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
He was the last man and would have been 1 on 1 with Hart ie denying a clear goal scoring opportunitythe xcx wrote:Ref would never hand out a red for a shirt pulling, unless it was a reckless challenge with intention to play the ball. Unlike Prem League, this silly shit is seen everyday in La liga.
Red card
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I don't think it should be a red, as it was on the middle line. A lot could have happened between there and the goal.
Oscar could've tripped over, he could have lost his sense of direction and dribbled to the side line, or Kolarov could have simply caught up to him, as he's 3 yards to the side.
Oscar could've tripped over, he could have lost his sense of direction and dribbled to the side line, or Kolarov could have simply caught up to him, as he's 3 yards to the side.
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You talk about ifs and maybes all you want. The facts are, Oscar would have been 1 on 1 with the keeper and he was stopped from doing so via a desperate shirt grab
Red card all day long.
Red card all day long.
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its 50 yards away from goal man, how can you talk about a clear goal scoring opportunity.
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btw the first 2 'ifs' were a joke, the third was my point. Over that much distance, the next defender is likely to catch up with Oscar before he reaches the goal.
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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
Ref would never warrant a red card for shirt pulling in an open game. Even tho its an offendable foul refs usually play it out of the rulebook. Its so custom when it comes defending set pieces. Rarely you can see referee taking an action into just like they dont like to give away soft penalties.
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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
Guess we parked the bus in front of the City goal, then.
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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
Because Nastasic is the last man, Oscar rolled him and Nastasic was falling away from Oscar.
Nastasic and Oscar are in the centre circle, with a Chelsea player running on. There are NO City players anywhere NEAR those two. Had Oscar gotten away, not only would he be clear through, he'd have support right next to him, while the the nearest City player (Nastasic) would have been flat on his arse
Clear red
Nastasic and Oscar are in the centre circle, with a Chelsea player running on. There are NO City players anywhere NEAR those two. Had Oscar gotten away, not only would he be clear through, he'd have support right next to him, while the the nearest City player (Nastasic) would have been flat on his arse
Clear red
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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
xcx, shirt pulling is a foul, and if that foul is committed to deny a clear goal scoring opportunity it's a red card, you brainiac.
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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
yes, with that still frame I'm inclined to agree, I thought I remembered the next defender being a couple of yards nearer.
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Doesn't matter if you're 50cm from the goal, 50 yards, 50 miles, 50 countries. If the last man takes out an attacking player with the ball, he's off
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Keep believing that
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It's how the game goes, sunshine. Brush up.
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Judging by that picture yes red card would have been justified. You should have posted that earlier.
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Bloody picture isn't displaying ffs
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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
Lex wrote:Doesn't matter if you're 50cm from the goal, 50 yards, 50 miles, 50 countries. If the last man takes out an attacking player with the ball, he's off
The difference does matter because if you're last man 15 yards from goals with the next defender 2 yards behind it's a red, if it's 50 yards I'd say the one 2 yards behind can easily catch up.
But you're right, City's next defender is too far behind to catch up, so it should've been a red.
I got a false impression from the angle I rememberred.
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Hapless_Hans wrote:Lex wrote:Doesn't matter if you're 50cm from the goal, 50 yards, 50 miles, 50 countries. If the last man takes out an attacking player with the ball, he's off
The difference does matter because if you're last man 15 yards from goals with the next defender 2 yards behind it's a red, if it's 50 yards I'd say the one 2 yards behind can easily catch up.
But you're right, City's next defender is too far behind to catch up, so it should've been a red.
I got a false impression from the angle I rememberred.
The issue is the referees simply interpret and apply the laws how they want. Technically Oscar was denied a clear goal scoring opportunity but like others have said the sheer distance to the goal makes you question it. That said, whether 15 yards or 50 yards alot can happen between the player and the goal and it's not up to the referee to judge if the player is good enough to score.
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Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V6
Agreed with lex. Really thought it should have been red. If Chelsea had been at home I think it would have been given
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