Re: Why CR7's Ballon d'or sends the wrong message

by guest7 Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:21 pm

Gil wrote:
The_Badger wrote:Is Gil actually 22, or younger?
Reported.

I hope you get banned. Sick of posters continuously attacking me on here and never getting reprimanded.

It's a bigger scandal than this article tbh. Tired of mods having a agenda towards Gil, without a doubt the forums biggest victim. Often gets accused for trolling while mostly speaking the truth, and this isn't even the worst treatment he can get from some members...

Just watch Nick actually troll and get away with it instead. Much more fair.

by Donuts Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:56 pm

Doc wrote:I wouldn't go so far as to say Madrid would be nothing Nick but yeah, a lot of butthurt has taken place ever since. Some people just need to accept it and move on.

Though I'm pretty sure, the same butthurt would have taken place if either Messi or Ribery won it.

Maybe i am just looking way too into Nick's recent posts but if i am not mistaken he is using sarcasm Smile

anyways, no one has to agree with the article but it does provide FACTS to say it is biased is stupid considering once again it is FACTS

by futbol Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:13 pm

It sends the wrong message because it's the "player of November" award now. End of August he got 3 votes (1 from Portugal) for EPOTY award which shows you how much "up there" he was back then. He was beaten in La Liga by 15 points and invidually had his worst scoring record since 2010. Didn't do anything against Dortmund in the CL. Lost the CdR final at home and managed to get sent off. It pretty much was his worst year ever. Then Blatter makes that joke, Ronaldo scores 3 against Sweden while Messi is injured, they open up the votes again and in retroperspective he had a great year when in reality he only had a great November. It's shambles. Only reason I don't care is because he deserved it in 2012 so all is well. But in general it's a joke that this is now a "most in-form player in November" award.

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:18 pm

It's not like whenever people vote for these things they stop and think "Will this set a good precedent?" they just ask themselves "Who played best in 2013?" and to the majority of the voters it was CRonaldo.

by BAYERN_MUNICH Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:44 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:It's not like whenever people vote for these things they stop and think "Will this set a good precedent?" they just ask themselves "Who played best in 2013?" and to the majority of the voters it was CRonaldo.

Are you sure?

Juan Carlos Buzzeti, head coach of the Fidschi Islands told „El Mundo Deportivo“ he voted "Ronaldo,Messi,Ribery" , but the FIFA made "Ronaldo,Ribery,Lewandowski" out of it. "I didn't vote for Lewandowski, I would have never voted for him. He is not on a level with the other three."

The head coach from Qatar, Al Zarraa Fahad told "ESPN" 'My federation president told me, I should vote for Christiano, to help Blatter restoring his image.Because he help us to get the WC 2022."

Jorvan Vieira (Kuwait) voted for Messi, Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic ->(FIFA) Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo
Domingo Hernandez (Dominican Republic) voted for Ronaldo, Messi, Ribéry ->(FIFA) Ribéry, Ronaldo, Falcao
Percy Avock (Vanuatu) voted for Messi, Ronaldo ->(FIFA) Neymar, Ronaldo, Messi | he said "I just gave 2 votes"
Xabier Azkargorta (Bolivia) voted for Ronaldo, Messi, Iniesta ->(FIFA) Iniesta, Messi, Ronaldo

by sportsczy Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:01 pm

by Mr Nick09 Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:43 pm

YES CR! Another signature freekick tonight, haters should hide.

And referring to that pic above, he is right to hold that golden ball high, pointing the way of his next freekicks.

This is a guy that scored over 65 goals last season. How often have you seen that in your life? Last season alone, he shot 296 times on goal!!! he had 160 shots on target, 136 off targets, amazing numbers!!!

Sometimes i wonder how people can complain. Compare that to Messi's meager numbers, he barely scored 42 with 148 shots, 87 on target, 59 off. even if he played 10 less games look at the difference. CR dominated him with twice as many shots.

i dont even know how people can argue Molenation

by windkick Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:50 pm

Freek kick vs Osasuna is like a trophy?

People are not arguing if he scored allot or not, they are arguing this isn't a golden boot award (I think, i haven't read the whole thread). If he was so valuable to Madrid and his goals were so influential, then he would of helped his team not just score but in other ways to help his team at least win one trophy. That's the argument. Bayern won 5...yes FIVE trophies. That's damn near incredible and Barca like from the 09 season almost. I understand it's a team game and Bayern as a team stood out, but Ribery did his part in helping win those trophies and got just as far as Portugal (finished 2nd in qualification and had to go to a play off to qualify to WC)

Thats what people are arguing, not me btw. As I stated in the Ronaldo thread, I congratulate him for his hard work and his efforts. Dudes a real competitor (could of cared less who won the award, I root for my team not for individuals)

by Mr Nick09 Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:54 pm

oh here comes the short passing guerilla smh

CR doesnt play alone, the team didnt lose because of him. just like Bayern didnt win because of Ribery, who had a better supporting cast. I mean that's a mean that won the CL with mandzukic and without Kroos.

by windkick Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:12 pm

"oh here comes the short passing guerrilla smh"?

I've been called many things, NicholasCeroNueve, but never that lol. I don't even know what the *bleep* a short passing guerrilla is lol

As I mentioned, I could give a shit that he won. My main concern as a supporter of my club is that my club wins trophies. Simple as that. So save your arguments for some one else. I've stated in many a thread I figured Ronaldo would win it, so I am not shocked as he was my pick if I was betting money

EDIT- On second thought, I will however retort to your comment. Your are wrong, Ronaldo DID help them get as far as they got. It is a team, and he was apart of it. As a team, he helped them reach the semis of the UCL, 2nd place of the Copa de España and 2nd place of La Liga. His team efforts along with this team did that. As a TEAM, Riberys TEAM, along with Ribery, were able to get farther than what Ronaldos effort did. So your basing your argument on a individual award, then yes I see your argument...but it's flawed because the MVP helps his team win. He doesn't help his team finish 2nd. Thats the difference. Racking up hat tricks vs teams like Osasuna and Almeria on a weekly basis and boasting about his great scoring numbers with no trophies to show for it isn't as impressive to me. It is however something to take account when thinking of a Golden Shoe award, which the Ballon D'Or isn't. It is something to also take into account if Real Madrid would of won something, then yes, as a TEAM, he was the absolute best of the best. So your argument is that Ronaldo was the absolute best 2nd place winner (2nd place is where Real Madrid finished in most of its competitions) in a team sport. Ribery was the best of the best, or one of the best of the best...which is Bayern. His ethic and team play helped them gain trophies, not 2nd place finishes

by ronalessi Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:20 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:he is right to hold that golden ball high, pointing the way of his next freekicks.

by harhar11 Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:41 pm

windkick wrote:"oh here comes the short passing guerrilla smh"?

I've been called many things, NicholasCeroNueve, but never that lol. I don't even know what the *bleep* a short passing guerrilla is lol

As I mentioned, I could give a shit that he won. My main concern as a supporter of my club is that my club wins trophies. Simple as that. So save your arguments for some one else. I've stated in many a thread I figured Ronaldo would win it, so I am not shocked as he was my pick if I was betting money

EDIT- On second thought, I will however retort to your comment. Your are wrong, Ronaldo DID help them get as far as they got. It is a team, and he was apart of it. As a team, he helped them reach the semis of the UCL, 2nd place of the Copa de España and 2nd place of La Liga. His team efforts along with this team did that. As a TEAM, Riberys TEAM, along with Ribery, were able to get farther than what Ronaldos effort did. So your basing your argument on a individual award, then yes I see your argument...but it's flawed because the MVP helps his team win. He doesn't help his team finish 2nd. Thats the difference. Racking up hat tricks vs teams like Osasuna and Almeria on a weekly basis and boasting about his great scoring numbers with no trophies to show for it isn't as impressive to me. It is however something to take account when thinking of a Golden Shoe award, which the Ballon D'Or isn't. It is something to also take into account if Real Madrid would of won something, then yes, as a TEAM, he was the absolute best of the best. So your argument is that Ronaldo was the absolute best 2nd place winner (2nd place is where Real Madrid finished in most of its competitions) in a team sport. Ribery was the best of the best, or one of the best of the best...which is Bayern. His ethic and team play helped them gain trophies, not 2nd place finishes

isn't he trolling? rofl

I mean he mentioned C.Ronaldo freekick tonight being a signature freekick, when it was a royal fck up by the keeper..

by Khaled Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:03 pm

Nick

by Khaled Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:13 pm

OT: any idea how I can stop receiving emails whenever someone posts?

by futbol Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:15 pm

Khaled wrote:OT: any idea how I can stop receiving emails whenever someone posts?

Profile -> Preferences -> Always notify me of replies.

by Khaled Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:32 pm

its already NO. yet I still get emails.

by Kick Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:00 pm

Stop watching this thread? below page numbers.

by Khaled Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:38 pm

ok thanks. it seems I have to Log out before exciting from the site.

by BarcaLearning Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:05 pm

Loool! Love this thread, although in the end I feel he deserved it, he still clearly the second best player and with Messi out for long periods and never really hitting his absolute best form, Ronaldo deserved it this year I think just.

The worst thing this year was how FIFA delayed the votes in order to regonise his performance vs Sweden, that was a complete joke and shows what an idiot Blatter is.

by El Chelsea Fuerte Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:03 am

A lot of people hate Ronaldo, looks like.

by Winter is Coming Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:47 am

Not much to do with the topic, but could you imagine once Messi/CR are gone the next generation competing for the Ballon d'or?

Deulofeu/Neymar/Thiago/Gotze/Koke/Isco/Moura/Pogba/Veratti/Jese/Morata/Draxler/El Shaarawy/Oscar

by sree999 Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:53 am

my bet is on hazard neymar goetze pogba and oscar

none are tactical liability like ronaldo .

all new generations have defensive mentality built in them . even for a scorer/creator like neymar .

by M99 Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:04 am

loool Nick's sarcasm Laughing

by Hapless_Hans Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:57 am

lol nick, who needs enemies when he has friends like you Very Happy

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