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Re: The unpopular opinion thread
Obviously , that's right. Busquets doesn't play there because of his defensive presence or to do the 'dirty work' like real defensive midfielders do . He's playing there because he is exceptional with the ball and all that goes with it , he excells at . That's a place where you really cannot afford to make mistakes , any mistake really and you also have to be supportive , tactically immense and also play naturaly as a central midfielder when the need arises. Play in a few words , not destroy the play. Busquets does all that in games like he is in training ffs. And as far his position goes , he has made significant progress imo. When Guardiola bought Mascherano , he didn't intend him to play CB , but to have an alternative seeing the special role Busquets has could leave them vulnerable on the counter or against opponents who aren't pushovers. Busquets became so good -even though iirc they had issues with the CBs then but still- that he couldn't drop him for anything.chinomaster182 wrote:These players are all very different, in fact i wouldnt classify Busquets as a defensive midfielder, id call him a center midfielder.juventus101 wrote:
Busquets is extremely overrated. A top 5 DM yes but hes not the best like some say. Vidal and De Rossi for example are far better.
Just something to keep in mind.
If it wasn't for Guardiola who wanted a replica of himself there , i doubt he would be playing as the last midfielder. Guardiola hit a gem with Busquets really , not to mention he even ousted Yaya for him as well . He didn't lose the best defensive midfielder at the time for any other reason other than the fact Busquets wasn't a successor to Yaya , rather an improvement in substance , style and adding more "points" in controlling the game even more.
Even though much is said about his diving , obviously , his overall quality is ridiculous tbh . There's nobody better at what he does , atm at least. And since Barcelona always attack , it matters so much that he isn't the definition of the last midfielder. And needless to say , i rate Busquets very much and i though people do as well by now.
He does play the defensive midfielder part also , but that is something that's not a priority for him. The fact that he sits deeper for others to play and helps things out along the way , is as good enough as defending when done properly and he seems to do it for fun all the time. Anyway , the fact he sees the last midfielder like this is something i always liked about Guardiola , both from the few i remember of him as a player but more as a coach . A defensive midfielder who plays as the last midfielder but can't play good football , is a burden.
Gattuso was one of (if not) the best i've ever seen and Ancelotti never dared to play him as the last man and play Pirlo in his place , not because Pirlo couldn't handle the role equally well , but for the sole reason Gattuso was a very limited player with the ball and having players who can play football in that area , wherever their differences and roles might differ , is of paramount importance in modern day football . All great teams must have that player who can play football equally well from the deep and support as a CM when they have to , even genuine DMFs like De Rossi and De Jong have evolved and can play the ball and do stuff up front very well.
But they are different players in substance and a Busquets is different to a De Rossi and Vidal , albeit it's obvious you understand this very well , just saying it for the discussion. Vidal btw , if it wasn't for Pirlo he should be playing in his place . I don't know if that's what will happen when Pirlo leaves (dat evil place that is called Juventus) , because he is really good where he is playing . But seems logical to say the least. I think that was what he did in Leverkusen as well , no ?
All in all , fk this post , i thought people rated Busquets by now . Is it really an unpopular opinion to say that Busquets is one of the best in the world at what he does ? If not the best currently at least.
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Please say why you think this, I'm dying for the analysis.juventus101 wrote:Chiellini is better than Thiago Silva, and is the best CB in the world. (despite what happenned against Madrid).
Marchisio is world class
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This thread would never be complete without this particular post actuallyM99 wrote:Please say why you think this, I'm dying for the analysis.juventus101 wrote:Chiellini is better than Thiago Silva, and is the best CB in the world. (despite what happenned against Madrid).
Marchisio is world class
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Most people would agree with you therechinomaster182 wrote:Oh and i don't think last seasons Bayern was better than prime Barcelona.
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This is one of the worst posts I have ever seen on this forum. I don't even know where to start...juventus101 wrote:Chiellini is better than Thiago Silva, and is the best CB in the world. (despite what happenned against Madrid).
Marchisio is world class, and still better than Pogba.
Podolski is a top player that could play for most teams in the world. Also think he would work better on the right, and definitely better as the 10 in a 4231.
Ribery is better than Ronaldo, who I believe is extremely overrated.
Schweinsteiger is the best DLP in the world.
Busquets is extremely overrated. A top 5 DM yes but hes not the best like some say. Vidal and De Rossi for example are far better.
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Benzema is still a world class player , he just needs to get out of Madrid ASAP
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If Liverpool continue playing 3 at the back. Skrtel must be dropped and then sold off. Agger must be tried as a libero.
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I endorse this post 100%, very well written.Dante wrote:Obviously , that's right. Busquets doesn't play there because of his defensive presence or to do the 'dirty work' like real defensive midfielders do . He's playing there because he is exceptional with the ball and all that goes with it , he excells at . That's a place where you really cannot afford to make mistakes , any mistake really and you also have to be supportive , tactically immense and also play naturaly as a central midfielder when the need arises. Play in a few words , not destroy the play. Busquets does all that in games like he is in training ffs. And as far his position goes , he has made significant progress imo. When Guardiola bought Mascherano , he didn't intend him to play CB , but to have an alternative seeing the special role Busquets has could leave them vulnerable on the counter or against opponents who aren't pushovers. Busquets became so good -even though iirc they had issues with the CBs then but still- that he couldn't drop him for anything.chinomaster182 wrote:These players are all very different, in fact i wouldnt classify Busquets as a defensive midfielder, id call him a center midfielder.juventus101 wrote:
Busquets is extremely overrated. A top 5 DM yes but hes not the best like some say. Vidal and De Rossi for example are far better.
Just something to keep in mind.
If it wasn't for Guardiola who wanted a replica of himself there , i doubt he would be playing as the last midfielder. Guardiola hit a gem with Busquets really , not to mention he even ousted Yaya for him as well . He didn't lose the best defensive midfielder at the time for any other reason other than the fact Busquets wasn't a successor to Yaya , rather an improvement in substance , style and adding more "points" in controlling the game even more.
Even though much is said about his diving , obviously , his overall quality is ridiculous tbh . There's nobody better at what he does , atm at least. And since Barcelona always attack , it matters so much that he isn't the definition of the last midfielder. And needless to say , i rate Busquets very much and i though people do as well by now.
He does play the defensive midfielder part also , but that is something that's not a priority for him. The fact that he sits deeper for others to play and helps things out along the way , is as good enough as defending when done properly and he seems to do it for fun all the time. Anyway , the fact he sees the last midfielder like this is something i always liked about Guardiola , both from the few i remember of him as a player but more as a coach . A defensive midfielder who plays as the last midfielder but can't play good football , is a burden.
Gattuso was one of (if not) the best i've ever seen and Ancelotti never dared to play him as the last man and play Pirlo in his place , not because Pirlo couldn't handle the role equally well , but for the sole reason Gattuso was a very limited player with the ball and having players who can play football in that area , wherever their differences and roles might differ , is of paramount importance in modern day football . All great teams must have that player who can play football equally well from the deep and support as a CM when they have to , even genuine DMFs like De Rossi and De Jong have evolved and can play the ball and do stuff up front very well.
But they are different players in substance and a Busquets is different to a De Rossi and Vidal , albeit it's obvious you understand this very well , just saying it for the discussion. Vidal btw , if it wasn't for Pirlo he should be playing in his place . I don't know if that's what will happen when Pirlo leaves (dat evil place that is called Juventus) , because he is really good where he is playing . But seems logical to say the least. I think that was what he did in Leverkusen as well , no ?
All in all , fk this post , i thought people rated Busquets by now . Is it really an unpopular opinion to say that Busquets is one of the best in the world at what he does ? If not the best currently at least.
It just seems like most punters i see these days are calling them the best team ever, i tend to disagree.Most people would agree with you there
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jibers wrote:This is one of the worst posts I have ever seen on this forum. I don't even know where to start...juventus101 wrote:Chiellini is better than Thiago Silva, and is the best CB in the world. (despite what happenned against Madrid).
Marchisio is world class, and still better than Pogba.
Podolski is a top player that could play for most teams in the world. Also think he would work better on the right, and definitely better as the 10 in a 4231.
Ribery is better than Ronaldo, who I believe is extremely overrated.
Schweinsteiger is the best DLP in the world.
Busquets is extremely overrated. A top 5 DM yes but hes not the best like some say. Vidal and De Rossi for example are far better.
I agree.. dropping AND selling our best (or second best) defender for our fourth best defender so far this season sounds extremely logical.McAgger wrote:If Liverpool continue playing 3 at the back. Skrtel must be dropped and then sold off. Agger must be tried as a libero.
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I always enjoy this thread when it comes around, just aslong as it doesnt get out of hand with the debating as this one hasnt.
It really exposes those who you think are really crazy or at least are watching something else, but not football.
It really exposes those who you think are really crazy or at least are watching something else, but not football.
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Best defenderExtremistEnigma wrote:I agree.. dropping AND selling our best (or second best) defender for our fourth best defender so far this season sounds extremely logical.McAgger wrote:If Liverpool continue playing 3 at the back. Skrtel must be dropped and then sold off. Agger must be tried as a libero.
Ruin the whole system for your team so you can look good individually is a really good way to get credit in this business. I'm not buying it.
And with Skrtel it's not even on purpose, he just lacks the ability to play the way our game requires the center CB to play.
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I wouldn't speak too soon Dani
Anyway from 2011 lol...
Some of the posts when this thread was initially created two years ago is hilarious lmao.
Anyway from 2011 lol...
MeGreat Leader Sprucenuce wrote:LOL @ the haters negging me already ok then.......
Ozil is better than Sneijder
Some of the posts when this thread was initially created two years ago is hilarious lmao.
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Modric is one of the best CM's in the World and is underrated.
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Why not post the entire quote?Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I wouldn't speak too soon Dani
Anyway from 2011 lol...MeGreat Leader Sprucenuce wrote:LOL @ the haters negging me already ok then.......
Ozil is better than Sneijder
Some of the posts when this thread was initially created two years ago is hilarious lmao.
Mole CenaGreat Leader Sprucenuce wrote:LOL @ the haters negging me already ok then.......
Modric is better than Alonso
Pepe is better than Thiago Silva
Mikel and Essien are both average
Fabregas is a big match flop, Wilshere is better
Eto'o is the best CF since R9
Ozil is better than Sneijder
Troll lyfe
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Stahp....
That post was to get back at those neg repping arseholes
I didn't mean any of it except the Ozil bit
That post was to get back at those neg repping arseholes
I didn't mean any of it except the Ozil bit
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Modric is still a great player and is currently underrated due to Mourinho misusing him and Ancelotti only learning know how to.
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I think Adriano is too good to be on the bench, i think he could find first team football if he were to transfer
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Thing is BC everyone says that about Modric in every club he's been at under every manager he's been managed by.
My stance has always been that he's too mentally deficient to be at the very top and it holds him back.... got all the talent sure but he's mentally like a virgin.
My stance has always been that he's too mentally deficient to be at the very top and it holds him back.... got all the talent sure but he's mentally like a virgin.
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Not really, just Mou who has a history of not really knowing what to do with that type of players (point in case: Sahin at LB). I think there have been some big games where Modric has really shown the qualities that made Madrid sign him (v United stands out to me).
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comes to think about it most of my opinions can fit in this thread and even some of them might make some users to get mad at me and even there's a high chance of getting warning for that .
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Do share ploxIL Gladiatore wrote: comes to think about it most of my opinions can fit in this thread and even some of them might make some users to get mad at me and even there's a high chance of getting warning for that .
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If the one game that stands out is a game against 10 men when he was brought on as a sub when the players that were on started to tire anyway then that's enough for me to believe my claim of his mental fortitude not being good enough.BarrileteCosmico wrote:Not really, just Mou who has a history of not really knowing what to do with that type of players (point in case: Sahin at LB). I think there have been some big games where Modric has really shown the qualities that made Madrid sign him (v United stands out to me).
Gladiatore don't worry about people getting angry at you.... if they do then they are probably not worth your time anyway.
Some may disagree and give their reasons why but angry at you? that is just childish.
So yes please share and don't care what other people may think that's what this thread is for.
Although i can't promise i will agree with you
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Don't care if I agree with the points 100%
Im'a be mad.
Im'a be mad.
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almost like all balkan players from x-yu except Dragan Stojkovic- Piksi and that generationGreat Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Thing is BC everyone says that about Modric in every club he's been at under every manager he's been managed by.
My stance has always been that he's too mentally deficient to be at the very top and it holds him back.... got all the talent sure but he's mentally like a virgin.
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I think it's all valid about Modric. The most important part to me though is that he's more in control of what he does than basically any other player, so it's difficult to say someone don't use him properly. He's supposed to use other people properly and has the freedom to do it.
So when he doesn't, even though it might be because the players around him don't do what they're supposed to or they aren't literally forced to think about the game the way he does, it's still on him. The point of his entire existence is to get the best out of everyone else.
The mentally deficient stuff, I don't know, I saw United do some things to Tottenham year while he was dominating games 70 minutes on end, but United is still United - so generally you suppose it could happen to anyone.
So when he doesn't, even though it might be because the players around him don't do what they're supposed to or they aren't literally forced to think about the game the way he does, it's still on him. The point of his entire existence is to get the best out of everyone else.
The mentally deficient stuff, I don't know, I saw United do some things to Tottenham year while he was dominating games 70 minutes on end, but United is still United - so generally you suppose it could happen to anyone.
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Its not just his mental strength either i feel he lacks the confidence to believe in himself in key moments.
Has all the ability you could ask for as a midfielder but doesn't really believe and trust in himself that he can take on the best and come out on top.
I think that is the difference between him and the truly top midfielders, he doesn't have the confidence and mentality of a champion that says i'm better than you and have the ability to back it up.
He does have the ability but rarely uses it because he doesn't believe in himself like the top guys do.
Has all the ability you could ask for as a midfielder but doesn't really believe and trust in himself that he can take on the best and come out on top.
I think that is the difference between him and the truly top midfielders, he doesn't have the confidence and mentality of a champion that says i'm better than you and have the ability to back it up.
He does have the ability but rarely uses it because he doesn't believe in himself like the top guys do.
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