Re: Emirates cup

by Tomwin Lannister Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:09 pm

Dossena is so shit he should just hang his boots up and do Napoli a favour

Cost them in the CL because he had to come on for Maggio,

Costs them every time he sets foot on the pitch. He makes Marco Motta look like Lilian Thuram.

by Kaladin Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:09 pm

Am i the only one that thinks Wilshere is more suited to a role in the wings?

by REWB Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:09 pm

ahh good game, time to play starcraft

by RealGunner Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:10 pm

Very good match.

by Gil Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:10 pm

Sportsczy, would Wilshere get into PSG's team lol? Wow, he's a fraud.

Product of the English hype machine.

by Tomwin Lannister Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:10 pm

sportsczy wrote:Has higuain been getting service though? No point about rating him unless he gets service. Is he making his typical runs?

There's going to be a transition period no doubt.

No it's not his finishing. He was terrible on the ball, got bullied by Kos, made an attempted through ball that looked like he was putting it out of play on purpose. Was awful. But it's pre-season so meh.

by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:11 pm

ft arsenal 2-2 Napoli

good fightback by arsenal but I have to say napoli looked horrendous in the second half. too many hopeful balls and lost posession in the middle too easily

by Gil Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:11 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:Am i the only one that thinks Wilshere is more suited to a role in the wings?

Not enough pace or trickery for that role. Can't cross either.

by REWB Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:12 pm

Gil wrote:Wilshere does not have a role for a big club.

Can't play CM so his best position is probably AM but he doesn't create nor score enough for such a role.

He's just....there.....

Despite all that he gets more hype than any other player at Arsenal. Same fans that slag off Bale have the nerve to call this scrub World Class.

lool no arsenal fans slag off bale, we actually big him up since he makes spurs a 1 man team. nobody can deny that guys quality.

by Kaladin Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:12 pm

Still think his dribbling is far too good to be deployed in deep

by lenear1030 Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:15 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:
sportsczy wrote:Has higuain been getting service though? No point about rating him unless he gets service. Is he making his typical runs?

There's going to be a transition period no doubt.

No it's not his finishing. He was terrible on the ball, got bullied by Kos, made an attempted through ball that looked like he was putting it out of play on purpose. Was awful. But it's pre-season so meh.

to be fair, Koscielny is borderline world class when on form.

by Nishankly Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:16 pm

Wilshere doesn't exactly dribble, He has a special gift, He knows the exact amount of space he needs considering his pace to get through a midfield or a couple of players.

Arsenal need a DM/Breaker/Destroyer after a Striker.

by The_Badger Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:17 pm

Gil wrote:Product of the English hype machine.

True. He has a lot of potential, but he's frequently injured and unreliable.

by RealGunner Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:17 pm

Gil wrote:
El Shaarawy wrote:Am i the only one that thinks Wilshere is more suited to a role in the wings?

Not enough pace or trickery for that role. Can't cross either.

Better than Zola ever was.

by Kaladin Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:18 pm

Sulley "The Bully" is available if you need him Arsenal fans

by urbaNRoots Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:20 pm

Just read this thread....

Calm down with the kneejerk, this isn't the preseason overreaction thread Laughing

by Eman Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:20 pm

Wilshere isn't as good as Rosicky or Cazorla at creating chances so he shouldn't be played as our most advanced CM IMO, but he also doesn't defend well enough to be effective next to Arteta. The best he looked was when he played as a box-to-box midfielder next to Cesc and Song a few years ago and used his dribbling to quickly transition from defense to offense, but we don't really have the personnel to allow him to play that role anymore unless we get another DM.

His talent is clear to see, and he may well develop to suit our current system, but I would go so far as to say that he maybe shouldn't be a starter right now unless we make some signings or Diaby's brain gets planted into the body of someone who isn't made of glass hmm

by Firenze Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:51 pm

Higgy flopped? :coffee:

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:54 pm

Surag i stand by my point on Arsenal not needing a DM as long as Arteta is available.

Arteta and Ramsey is a fantastic partnership defensively and a big reason why they ended the season so well.

They could probably use one as competition and an eventual replacement for Arteta but as far starting i don't think its absolutely necessary.

Wilshere isn't a CM and i have said that for a long time.

Didn't watch the game though, as i was busy so everything i'm saying is based on watching Arsenal in the past.

by Albiceleste Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:55 pm

insigne is legit

by urbaNRoots Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:59 pm

Firenze wrote:Higgy flopped?

Not 100% match fit.

by aleumdance Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:38 am

1) we need fellaini. Arteta can't work alone

2)we need suarez

by Doc Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:37 am

Albiceleste wrote:insigne is legit

by Vlad the Impaler Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:01 am

aleumdance wrote:1) we need fellaini. Arteta can't work alone

2)we need suarez

God bless Arsenal if they buy Fellaini.

by dostoevsky Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:32 pm

Napoli are playing Porto at the moment with the following line-up.

Rafael
Zuniga---Fernandez---Gamberini---Dossena
Callejon---Radosevic---Dzemaili---Mertens
Calaio---Pandev

It will be interesting to see whether Benitez hopes to keep Fernandez at Napoli or whether he will again go out on loan. In a World Cup year, it is unlikely the Argentine will want to risk not having a first team place. Should Skrtel or another central defender arrive I imagine he will seek another club. Whilst I don't rate him particularly highly he could be an interesting alternative for an upper midtable side willing to take on a temporary option.

I must admit, in the absence of Insigne, Hamsik and Higuain it's a game that's not particularly exciting to track. Radosevic's attempts to launch the ball forward have been highly disappointing thus far, very wasteful, though I am not going to judge a youngster on one viewing. They'll want to see much more from him as a back-up this season though.

by dostoevsky Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:37 pm

This is why people hate British commentators. Laughing

Apparently Gamberini is a current Italian international who played at the Confederations Cup this summer. rofl

Dossena is also an important Italian international. Laughing

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