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Post by sportsczy Wed May 29, 2013 2:10 pm

jibers wrote:
sportsczy wrote:what other club in the world is more prestigious historically than Madrid? How about making a counter-argument for a change lol.

Is that it? Yet Ribery just said be would say no thanks to Madrid. Your club is run like a kebab shop. Robben and Sneijder, two players ostracised won the cl. Barcelona are in vogue and most ppl would pick barca over Madrid @tm. Madrid have very little chance of winning anything bar the copa. I'd only go there to collect a pay cheque like Kaka
That's your counter-argument? Because Ribery at the age of 30 says he wouldn't go to Madrid? lol. He was desperate to come to Madrid in 2008 or 2009 and Bayern blocked. Now that he's a legend at Bayern, they're the best club in the world and he's settled, he says he'd stay... what a stunning slap in the face to Madrid. How will we recover!

Your arguments are pathetic straw man attempts Jibers. Make a proper argument showing the merits of another club compared to Madrid in terms of prestige and international recognition. I know you have it in you.

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Post by Kaladin Wed May 29, 2013 2:10 pm

jibers wrote:Your club is run like a kebab shop

Tbf, Kebab shops run their stores extremely efficiently
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed May 29, 2013 2:11 pm

I will not stand idly by, and have you besmirch the reputation of honorable kebab shops!
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Post by jibers Wed May 29, 2013 2:12 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:
jibers wrote:Your club is run like a kebab shop

Tbf, Kebab shops run their stores extremely efficiently

Kebab shops are TQ
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Post by sportsczy Wed May 29, 2013 2:13 pm

billy_gr wrote:Also amazing how we arre using the 50 years arguement because anything remotely less would limit your trophy haul significantly

SAF's reign of the last 26 years, which is considered the most successful for its period (falsely imo):

Man U
13 Premier League Titles
5 FA Cups
2 CLs

Madrid
11 La Liga titles
3 CDRs
3 CLs
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Post by jibers Wed May 29, 2013 2:17 pm

sportsczy wrote:
billy_gr wrote:Also amazing how we arre using the 50 years arguement because anything remotely less would limit your trophy haul significantly

SAF's reign of the last 26 years, which is considered the most successful for its period (falsely imo):

Man U
13 Premier League Titles
5 FA Cups
2 CLs

Madrid
11 La Liga titles
3 CDRs
3 CLs

When SAF too over united were a pub club battling relegation. Had no youth set up and the first 11 were made up of benzemas, fat waste of spaces. No youth set up, no scouting, hadn't win the EPL for 20+ years lol. Madrid were in the era of Quinte del bu.

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Post by billy_gr Wed May 29, 2013 2:17 pm

sportsczy wrote:
billy_gr wrote:Also amazing how we arre using the 50 years arguement because anything remotely less would limit your trophy haul significantly

SAF's reign of the last 26 years, which is considered the most successful for its period (falsely imo):

Man U
13 Premier League Titles
5 FA Cups
2 CLs

Madrid
11 La Liga titles
3 CDRs
3 CLs

good. so Barca has superior stats in the last 26 years.
Anyway my point is that it is subjective for each one depending on how much impact the past has for you. And how deep in the past of course.
Sorry but the 50’s are too far for me to relate.
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Post by Lex Wed May 29, 2013 2:17 pm

Leave kebabs out of this ffs Sad
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Post by Arquitecto Wed May 29, 2013 2:19 pm

billy_gr wrote:
sportsczy wrote:what other club in the world is more prestigious historically than Madrid? How about making a counter-argument for a change lol.

it's all a matter of opinion mate.
For me the most prestigious club in the European stage is Milan.
Sorrybut 5 European trophies in the 50's don't impress me that much compared to Milan's domiance over the years.
Again the whole "overall title collection" arguement is great but I try focus in ages that football wasn't played in the court of King Arthur. And that doesn't have anything to do with Barca's golden years i can asure you

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Post by Lex Wed May 29, 2013 2:21 pm

billy_gr wrote:I try focus in ages that football wasn't played in the court of King Arthur
rofl my obliques
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Post by billy_gr Wed May 29, 2013 2:22 pm

Arquitescu wrote:
billy_gr wrote:
sportsczy wrote:what other club in the world is more prestigious historically than Madrid? How about making a counter-argument for a change lol.

it's all a matter of opinion mate.
For me the most prestigious club in the European stage is Milan.
Sorrybut 5 European trophies in the 50's don't impress me that much compared to Milan's domiance over the years.
Again the whole "overall title collection" arguement is great but I try focus in ages that football wasn't played in the court of King Arthur. And that doesn't have anything to do with Barca's golden years i can asure you

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Post by Kaladin Wed May 29, 2013 2:22 pm

I should say that we have been battered left and right in Europe for a few years now, dont think we'd be that attractive for players presently
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Post by Arquitecto Wed May 29, 2013 2:23 pm

Lex wrote:
billy_gr wrote:I try focus in ages that football wasn't played in the court of King Arthur
rofl my obliques

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Post by Lex Wed May 29, 2013 2:25 pm

Club history is irrelevant to a player when deciding who to sign for, no matter how much they spew about it after the fact
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Post by sportsczy Wed May 29, 2013 2:28 pm

For you perhaps... but parents influence kids and kids typically start by following what the parents like. You often have 3 generations that idolize Real Madrid and can point to legendary players and games in their era of interest. Being a legend where a club has a 10 year relevant history is a bit lol. 25 years, it's getting serious. More than 25 years, now you've got some real critical mass of legendary level players to compete against. 50 years... there are only 3 clubs in the world that have that kind of history: Santos, Liverpool and Real Madrid. Only one of those 3 that has been consistently elite in that span is Madrid.

It's easy to be a legend when the club is young in its success and doesn't have a lot of competition for the status. The harder it is to achieve something, the more prestigious it is usually.
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Post by billy_gr Wed May 29, 2013 2:32 pm

Ok no need to analyze this further. We can agree to disagree.
However my view is that if you are willing to “cash in” your past time legacy, you should be equally ready to recognize it when it’s damaged.

Peace, I’m out.
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Post by 1991 Wed May 29, 2013 8:25 pm

Really it depends on the player, for south americans right now in general i'd say it's Barca, i know Madrid fans like to repeat ''biggest club in the world'' till they are blue in the face but Barca are much more attractive right now, and i guarentee if Madrid started to slash their spending and paid wages like Dortmund pretty much every non Spanish player wouldn't give toss about Madrids ''prestige''

Theres so many factors but the biggest is definitely money.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed May 29, 2013 8:49 pm

Jibers don't *bleep* with kebab shops. Don't mess with ancient powers, far greater than you can comprehend.
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Post by Juveman17 Wed May 29, 2013 8:50 pm

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:Jibers don't *bleep* with kebab shops. Don't mess with ancient powers, far greater than you can comprehend.

What is there to comprehend about crap food hmm?
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed May 29, 2013 8:51 pm

*bleep* off, somebody Ban him before I do something terrible. I'll go to jail ffs.
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Post by la bestia negra Wed May 29, 2013 8:52 pm

juveman17 wrote:
AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:Jibers don't *bleep* with kebab shops. Don't mess with ancient powers, far greater than you can comprehend.

What is there to comprehend about crap food hmm?

you serious m8???
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Post by RealGunner Wed May 29, 2013 8:53 pm

juveman17 wrote:
AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:Jibers don't *bleep* with kebab shops. Don't mess with ancient powers, far greater than you can comprehend.

What is there to comprehend about crap food hmm?

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Post by Juveman17 Wed May 29, 2013 8:54 pm

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:*bleep* off, somebody Ban him before I do something terrible. I'll go to jail ffs.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed May 29, 2013 8:59 pm

I'll *bleep* kill you I don't care let the cops come I have weapons I HAVE GOD.

He spoke to me and told me to eat kebabs. Ask Neymar he can confirm.
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Post by Cotes Wed May 29, 2013 9:05 pm

Gil wrote:United. Play in the most watched League, biggest club in the World and follow the footsteps of Ronaldo, Beckham, Cantona, Giggs etc

Madrid are a joke and no one wants to play for them. There's a reason Higuain, Benzema, Ronaldo etc are all desperate to leave.


Chelsea is pretty attractive as well. Earn shitloads of money, compete for trophies, London nightlife, fastest growing club in the World etc

how so?
u really should stop watching so much Foxsoccer
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Post by Juveman17 Wed May 29, 2013 9:52 pm

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:I'll *bleep* kill you I don't care let the cops come I have weapons I HAVE GOD.

He spoke to me and told me to eat kebabs. Ask Neymar he can confirm.

Tom Laughing
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