Valkyrja wrote:Kroos is the main reason why Germany lost to Italy at Euro, by pushing Ozil outside. Everytime he plays with Germany in the center, he is their best player, Gotze being forced to play as a false9/striker and Kroos rotting the bench. Gotze is and will always be more effective than Ozil, I agree, but Ozil is more artistic.

artistic? :rof:

He flops in most big games and is substituted every 70 minutes

Gil wrote:Shocked at the lack of Reus shouts.

The reason i didn't was because Jibers was talking about Kroos, Ozil and Gotze so felt thats what he wanted to discuss.

Otherwise i would have, i still think Gotze is the most talented but Reus is 2nd.

Germany are so lucky to have all those talented players..

Wonder how Löw will lineup with all those players

LeGladiator wrote:Germany are so lucky to have all those talented players..

Wonder how Löw will lineup with all those players

In some cowardly way that will see us not win the WC. That clown will make me rage so hard.

Löw will mess it up. He will start Gomez and Podolski

jibers wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:Kroos is the main reason why Germany lost to Italy at Euro, by pushing Ozil outside. Everytime he plays with Germany in the center, he is their best player, Gotze being forced to play as a false9/striker and Kroos rotting the bench. Gotze is and will always be more effective than Ozil, I agree, but Ozil is more artistic.

artistic? :rof:

He flops in most big games and is substituted every 70 minutes

That was 2 years ago, and he was never a big game flop. The only big game he truly flopped was the 5-0, but everyone was bad. He's usually our best player in big games.

usually our best player in big games? oh my

like vs man utd? or dortmund? or city? or barca? or bayern?

galasataray, once, although i can count one game vs dortmund. valencia? yes, minus the game topal destroyed him. patetico? sometimes. ajax? oh yes. cska? no.

highburied wrote:Reus>>>

Surprised no one didn't say it earlier.

Kroos?? thats really funny

McAgger wrote:Löw will mess it up. He will start Gomez and Podolski

Even that could work if done right. If we were to play wing-heavy with loads of crosses to Gomez, and not play in a way that would require him to be a link-up player, why not play Gomez, he's a brilliant poacher.

But Löw will probably do something retarded. Like playing Kroos on the wing, costing us all the pace and width that makes us strong.

TBH we should play Reus and Müller on the wings, and either have Götze as a false 9, or Klose/Reus up front (if Reus, move Götze to LM) - Özil or Kroos play CAM, maybe Götze, who cares.

The point is, there's loads of possible tactics and lineups. I just hate when he combines tactics with lineups that don't complement each other.

He'll try to dominate possession with Gomez up front. He'll try counter-attacking with a false 9. Löw is an idiot. And limiting Germanys width... I could rage about this for decades, and probably will.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Otherwise i would have, i still think Gotze is the most talented but Reus is 2nd.

Agree with this. If we bring Reus into the equation. I think he's only barely second to Gotze (A nose hair behind).

But once again, I think Draxler will pass all of them.

nasir6371 wrote:

highburied wrote:Reus>>>

Surprised no one didn't say it earlier.

Kroos?? thats really funny

WTF hasn't been 100% world class about Kroos' performances this year? Besides him being injured against Juve, when has he ever not shown up?

Granted, that doesn't leave many important UCL matches, but believe me, he smacked some bitches in the league. Has been incredibly immense. And would've started every mathc of the season without that injury.

nasir6371 wrote:

highburied wrote:Reus>>>

Surprised no one didn't say it earlier.

Kroos?? thats really funny

I wouldn't say so he's extremely talented and is easily the most intelligent of the lot.

Intelligence is a talent.

How really curious to see just how good Draxler will get. Dem Germans canteras

Podolski's days are over i fear with all those wingers and Ams germany are producing.

Kroos is fantastic, but i prefer Oezil due to his style.

Mr Nick09 wrote:How really curious to see just how good Draxler will get. Dem Germans canteras

Wait till you see Leon Goretzka lol

Adit wrote:Podolski's days are over i fear with all those wingers and Ams germany are producing.

He has already lost his starting spot. But he will always be in the German squad.

Max Meyer

RealGunner wrote:Kroos is fantastic, but i prefer Oezil due to his style.

Oh, I can get on board with this.

What's Germany's starting lineup anyway nowadays?

animal.crackers wrote:Max Meyer

Long time

One great thing about Draxler is that he's a hardcore Schalke fanboy who hates both BVB and to a lesser extent Bayern When he eventually moves, it'll be outside of Bundesliga GTFI Perez

RealGunner wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:How really curious to see just how good Draxler will get. Dem Germans canteras

Wait till you see Leon Goretzka lol

he is a CM isnt? i think we tried to sign him last summer for Castilla but it didnt work

but we have Casemiro and Jose Rodriguez

Gil wrote:What's Germany's starting lineup anyway nowadays?

Difficult to say. All being fit probably
Neuer/ Lahm Hummels Badstuber ??? / Khedira Schweinsteiger / Müller Özil Reus(Götze?) / Klose

No bias but i would play Mertesacker over Hummels

VivaStPauli wrote:

Gil wrote:What's Germany's starting lineup anyway nowadays?

Difficult to say. All being fit probably
Neuer/ Lahm Hummels Badstuber ??? / Khedira Schweinsteiger / Müller Özil Reus(Götze?) / Klose

That's your preferred lineup or Loew's?