Re: bale or neymar

by chad4401 Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:43 pm

nerman>bale when will some learn scoring=good performances is stupid, what the point of positioning,vision,creativity,link up and technical ability if scoring>all that, grow up already scoring in a final makes you better rofl

when your clearly not, whats so unique about out running your opponent and shooting until you score and nothing else, can't even pick out an easy pass majority of time, neymar twice the footballer bale is end of

by FennecFox7 Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:48 pm

Fußball wrote:I don't even think Bale is faster than Nerman judging by Nerman's games for Brazil, certainly not with the ball or in terms of acceleration. At Barca Nerman just doesn't get any opportunities to run into space and build up speed, his starting position is already high up the pitch with defenders on his back, whereas Bale gets countless opportunities to run at defenders, playing for the best counterattacking side in the world. Either you have tight space specialists like Xavi and Iniesta at their peak who are unfazed to play through 20 defenders in a telephon booth or you don't and the entire style is useless and needs modifying and all the forwards struggle. But that's another topic I guess. Regardless of all that, for a 22 year old who plays for a team that doesn't even suit his strengths he's tremendously decisive. No way Bale would do better at Barca if they were swapped. Nerman on a counterattacking team however ... Probably the only good thing Rosell did during his tenure, snatching him away from uncle Flo.

Bale is much faster dude Laughing

there are many players faster then nerman..

by Donuts Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:39 pm

im not gonna debate whose faster but neymar is pretty damn high in the list.

it's not seen very often because he dives as soon as someone touches him

by Socur Toxanarosa Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:18 pm

Bale is much faster no question, Neymar is a much better footballer though.

by halamadrid2 Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:03 pm

I dont know man. I wouldn't call Neymar better than Bale. One does pointless stepovers before passing the ball back to someone else behind him while the other cant control his speed. Bale is the superior scorer but Neymar is better on the ball which LaLiga requires. I think Bale has been hard done by having to play in the midfield when he doesn't have the skillset for it. I am 100% he would be alot more respected as a striker. He is an excellent goal scorer and great at getting into good positions, he is just really bad on the ball

If I had a choice I would chose neither

by FennecFox7 Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:20 pm

Donuts wrote:im not gonna debate whose faster but neymar is pretty damn high in the list.

it's not seen very often because he dives as soon as someone touches him

I agree, neymar is def one of the faster players, but pure speed wise, ronaldo, bale, feghouli, PEA, etc..

Bale can't turn direction to save his life however Laughing

neymar has better agility and balance.

He's more fluid with the ball, he has better attacking qualities and his technique makes bale look like a sunday league player.

I wish we got nerman instead of bale. Bale is literally run and shoot. He has a few abilites that he isn't showing, such as his excellent crossing, good final ball, and decent passing. His passes are actually quite accurate; hes just glory hunting at the moment. But being a selfish prick, he doesn't show any of those. If he doesn't clean up his act, i want his ass out of madrid

by FennecFox7 Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:22 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:I dont know man. I wouldn't call Neymar better than Bale. One does pointless stepovers before passing the ball back to someone else behind him while the other cant control his speed. Bale is the superior scorer but Neymar is better on the ball which LaLiga requires. I think Bale has been hard done by having to play in the midfield when he doesn't have the skillset for it. I am 100% he would be alot more respected as a striker. He is an excellent goal scorer and great at getting into good positions, he is just really bad on the ball

If I had a choice I would chose neither

No way dude.. neymar has shown that he can still score at a decent rate while playing on the wing with messi. His assist tallys are better. Bale scores useless goals. As a poacher he would be excellent but we don't play with a pure 9.

Ronaldo and benzema are 2 of the best final third playmakers around and he still can't score that much as well.. hence me saying he's out of form. But neymar is so, so much better.

by Bankz Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:03 pm

Neymar is so superior to bale individually that i'm wondering how this is a debate.. Neymar is also much more talented and unpredictable too while being a better playmaker. I shiver at the thought of what neymar would be in this current madrid tbh..bale on the other hand is faster but neymar is quicker and bale is stronger hence has a stronger shot power which is enviable.
however when it comes to being technical, spontaneus and sophistication on the ball, this comparision instantly becomes lol worthy..

by halamadrid2 Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:27 pm

Bale in his worst form still scores more than Neymar. When it comes to gials it isn't a question. Bale is superior with every fiber of his body

by Donuts Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:45 pm

all bale has on neymar in terms of scoring is long shots/power

look at neymar for brazil he's on way to breaking pele's record lol.

by Bankz Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:23 pm

How does bale in his worst form score more than neymar? This season bale has 11 goals in 22 games (started 21). Neymar 14 goals in 18 games (started 15), So whats your point? Bale has never out-scored neymar (bar last season and bale played 3 games more) at any point in his career..not in real, not in tottenham, and certainly not for the NT. Btw, doesn't the fact that you brought up goal scoring (which is false anyway) as the only advantage for bale pretty much answer the question on who is superior?So what are u talking about? Bale has 33 in 66 for madrid and neymar has 29 in 58 for barca. Bales highest season tally is 22 in 44 and 26 in 44 and neymars highest season tally is 42 in 59 and 43 in 47 respectively.. Bales games higest is 3 goals in a game while neymar has scored 4 goals on 4 different occasions and scored 5 once, also scored 6 against ath mineiro but had 2 goals disallowed. In the NT bale's highest in a games is 2 goals while neymar has scored a hat-trick and 4 goals in a game, so at what point has bale being a better goal scorer?. Err, Meanwhile, for their national teams .....

by Bankz Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:24 pm

Btw, nobodys saying bale isnt a good player, its just that he has so much lacking in his game.

by Doc Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:45 pm

I disagree with Hala on this. Personally think Neymar is simply a better footballer than Bale would ever be. Only thing Bale has on Neymar is being more athletic.

With that being said, Bale scored in 3 finals, two of which being winners. One of the two was a UCL final against Atletico. Those are fachts. Bale, as a great footballer in his own right, could very much keep his head high in these sort of comparisons.

by halamadrid2 Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:11 am

I rate neither as a great footballer. Just pointing out that Bale is a superior scorer to Neymar. Neymar might be better on the ball which we've all acknowledged but all Neymar does is pointless step overs and fall over at the slightest contact. Of course he'd cut in and shoot every once in a while but thats Neymar for Barca in a nutshell. Put it this way if Barca were 1-0 down and Neymar had the ball on the edge of the penalty box I wouldn't be worried in the slightest. I would be if Messi or Suarez had it because they are real dangerous players Neymar is not.

Bale on the other hand is a frustrating player in posession but you can be sure to always find him in the box. He fights for every ball in the box kind of like Ronaldo but he misses the net sometimes still would trust him to score more than Neymar

A great midfielder is someone like Isco or Kroos or Cesc or Muller et al a great forward is someone like Lewa or Costa or Benz or Robben et al

Guys like Gotze, Neymar and Bale are far away from those players but all of them are still young so could potentially become better. Neymar and Barca are not suited to eachother and Bale will be this way until he plays striker rather than midfielder and Gotze looks like he will be staying in the level he is playing right now

by Bankz Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:02 am

My gahd!!! where do we start replying this post from? *facepalm*

by Bankz Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:02 am

My gahd!!! where do we start replying this post from? *facepalm*

by Harmonica Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:06 am

2014 (21.12) in official games

Bale 27 (+0pen) goals, 19 assists = directly part of 46 goals
Neymar 33 (+0pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 45 goals

The difference has been when the going gets though Bale is there to help, CL-final, Copa-final, WC-final, when Neymar just disappears.

Bale has been now 1.5 years the better player.

by Valkyrja Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:56 am

Bale isn't a better player than Neymar lol. At his best he might be at the same level, even though imo Neymar is better.

by Bankz Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:38 pm

Lol against cruz and lorenzo in the cwc? Hamonica strikes again.. By the way, why dont you state how many games they both played? And How could neymar have helped out when barca didnt get to the cl final? If messi scored against atl madrid maybe? And i dont remember barca qualifying for the cwc final as well, And in the spanish super cup neymar won it for barca with their only goal over 2 legs, and on the last day of the league neymar played only 19 mins as a substitute. Oh i forgot, cr7 has been better than messi in the last 1.5 years cl final, uefa supercup final, wc final. Afterall everything that applies to neymar also applies to mehssi too.

by Bankz Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:38 pm

Not to worry hamonica, neymar isnt going to take mehssi place anytime soon okay? Barca will help neymar out with that.

by Harmonica Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:09 pm

Yeah, that's why Madrid won feck all before Bale and we won everything before Neymar, and now it's the complete opposite.

I've to give to these fanboys though, you bemuse me sometimes with your insufferable irrationality. :bow:

by Valkyrja Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:13 pm

#saveusNerman
#saveBarcaNerman

by chad4401 Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:22 pm

smh hala is so full of it, how can you not see neymar is an excellent footballer? keep proving how clueless you really are

by FennecFox7 Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:08 pm

Harmonica wrote:Yeah, that's why Madrid won feck all before Bale and we won everything before Neymar, and now it's the complete opposite.

I've to give to these fanboys though, you bemuse me sometimes with your insufferable irrationality.

You're an idiot. The team won those trophies. Bale was a passenger in every big game bar those two goals. Neymar would've put 4 past athletico and barca had he played for us. Benzema and di maria were feeding him passes all day long last season and he almost cost us the final by missing sitter after sitter against athletico.

People really don't watch games on here. This fourm is becoming a joke. Bale loses the ball more then any madrid player, cant pass, can't even track back now, but scores a tapin when the game is done and dusted at 5-0 against relegation sides and suddenly hes "clinical".

by Valkyrja Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:15 am

Neymar being better than Bale doesn't change the fact that the Welshman is a great player himself. The former is simply a phenomenon while the latter is having a bad period at the moment.

by Valkyrja Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:14 pm

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