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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:33 pm

Juventus is trying to push some moves forward to improve their squad and secure a CL spot hopefully next season.

What moves should they be making to take their team in the right direction?

i think they have about 70M left in their purse.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:36 pm

two quality full backs( one defensive, one attacking)

quality b2b mid to go alonside Marchisio and Pirlo and quality playmaker to take over from Pirlo when he retires

world class forward who can play as an inside forward.



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Post by Guest Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:38 pm

Creativity on the attack. Just very stale midfield and poor finishing last year. They made Aguero their plan A. Honestly, if i were in the prez's shoes, i would have pushed for Vidal + Falcao or Hulk + Leon. You could probably get all three for about 50 and you have a hard working mid, a winger and a scorer.

With the 20 left, get some young talent for the defense.

But they're trying to make a media splash instead.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:41 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:two quality full backs( one defensive, one attacking)

quality b2b mid to go alonside Marchisio and Pirlo

world class forward who can play as an inside forward.


isnt marchisio a workaholic b2b? how about a creative CM, someone who can play higher up than Pirlo or instead of pirlo
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Post by Sushi Master Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:44 pm

A real frakking manager. With brass balls. (on the way, but lesse how he performs)

To get rid of the slew of mediocre talent and money chuggers they have there who don't contribute to nothing.

Aguero, or another WC forward to link with Matri. Able to play wide is a plus.

Actual full backs, please.

Tactical and player consistency. Every year they sell off a few key players. They want to get rid of Melo who's playing fine, FFS. Don't fix what ain't broke.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:45 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:two quality full backs( one defensive, one attacking)

quality b2b mid to go alonside Marchisio and Pirlo

world class forward who can play as an inside forward.


isnt marchisio a workaholic b2b? how about a creative CM, someone who can play higher up than Pirlo or instead of pirlo

Edited post with that in there aswell, my feeling is they will play with one passer( pirlo) and 2 b2b's mids with quality Marchisio and Vidal but Pirlo is old and needs replacing in a couple of seasons( Banega would be good)
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:54 pm

I'm not feeling the whole 424 tactic they are setting up
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:58 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:I'm not feeling the whole 424 tactic they are setting up

Wont happen, people are just seeing that has been Conte's formation in the past and ran with it imo i dont see anyother formation apart from 4-3-3 or 4-2-1-3.

I personally would'nt spend half of your budget on Aguero but that's just me.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:59 pm

Competent RB, LB & LW + Depth. Aguero & Rossi are not needed.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:00 am

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:I'm not feeling the whole 424 tactic they are setting up

Wont happen, people are just seeing that has been Conte's formation in the past and ran with it imo i dont see anyother formation apart from 4-3-3 or 4-2-1-3.

I personally would'nt spend half of your budget on Aguero but that's just me.

I feel the same, buying Rossi and having enough cash left to pursue another quality player is better


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Post by Guest Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:00 am

**waits for Gil's sarcastic post**

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Post by RobbyV Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:06 am


In all seriousness the core of their team is trash, no star upfront that can win them games in the crunch, add to that a shaky defence that can't hold leads and a lackluster midfield.

They need starpower. Aguero, maybe another big signing if possible.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:09 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Competent RB, LB & LW + Depth. Aguero & Rossi are not needed.

Agreed this is what i would do........

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Post by Ganso Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:12 am

Milan proved last year that you need quality in depth most of all.Not sure where we would end up without robinho,cassano and van bommel
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Post by Gil Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:15 am

Surprised by this thread after the vast amount of players Juve have "agreed terms" with this summer. Laughing
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:38 am

What we necessarily need and what we will get are two entirely different things.

No doubt in my mind we will take a 'big' name up front, it's a certainty because it has to be. To say the fans are pissed off is a understatement, they are homicidal right now. There has been a little renewed optimism, but not enough, they need to fill the new stadium for starters.

The thing we actually need most of all is our old mentality, because that's what made us win and that's what created our great players. It was a formula of Juventus since time began, a mentality now typified and associated more with Man United..

Beyond that some quality in key areas might now go amiss, but personally I don't think our team is as sh** as everyone likes to convince themselves.

We've left the cursed stadium now, we are back on what used to be the Delle Alpi. A good omen. Also I can't stress enough that we must bomb horribly at the trofeo Tim and Berlusconi cup...

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:43 am

:{Mr.Mustachio! wrote:. Also I can't stress enough that we must bomb horribly at the trofeo Tim and Berlusconi cup...

LOOOOL

We have a word in Spanish, cabalas, for those 'rituals' that must take place in order to get the results we want Laughing
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Post by lenear1030 Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:45 am

did sissoko start sucking or something?


and if they have 70m they could just buy Tevez if they miss out on Aguero, even though he costs more
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Post by Luca Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:48 am

Jeremy Menez :coffee:

No really, a quality SS, quality LW and a new DM if Melo is to go.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:49 am

Man, what Juve need is an Argentine star. If we look at Inter's recent success it's clear that the more Argentines in your team, the likelier you are to win! Everyone knows this, of course. That's why Inter signed Alvarez, and Roma are signing Lamela. That's why Palermo refuse 30M offers for Pastore, and Napoli 25M ones for Lavezzi. Hell, even Juve knows this, they're trying to get Aguero at all costs Very Happy

Last year is, obviously, the exception that proves the rule Wink
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Post by Swanhends Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:50 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
:{Mr.Mustachio! wrote:. Also I can't stress enough that we must bomb horribly at the trofeo Tim and Berlusconi cup...

LOOOOL

We have a word in Spanish, cabalas, for those 'rituals' that must take place in order to get the results we want Laughing

Lol'd very hard at that as well
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:55 am

lenear1030 wrote:did sissoko start sucking or something?


and if they have 70m they could just buy Tevez if they miss out on Aguero, even though he costs more

I don't know what happened to him, when he first joined he was immense and a immediate fan favourite.

Now he's like half a player, His constant injuries and tactical changes seem to have killed off his Juve career.
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:11 am

bhends wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:
:{Mr.Mustachio! wrote:. Also I can't stress enough that we must bomb horribly at the trofeo Tim and Berlusconi cup...

LOOOOL

We have a word in Spanish, cabalas, for those 'rituals' that must take place in order to get the results we want Laughing

Lol'd very hard at that as well

Indeed, these days I've come to really believe in them. Desperate times Smile

I can see why you are laughing bhends but I'm actually cringing, the deja vu has just hit me. I've posted in basically this exact thread, at this time of year, twice already before.

Uh-oh...
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Post by Swanhends Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:18 am

Haha well I dont have to worry about the Trofeo Bunga Bunga...we've never won it

As for the TIM Trophy I don't know how I feel

We won it in 05....Didn't end that well for us

Lost in 06, won in 07 (Loss/win Scudetto)

but we won it in 2010....and went on to win 5 trophies....

So we can safely say the winner is destined either to crash and burn horrificly or achieve incredible greatness

Edit: Got faulty results for the TIM Trophy, had to change


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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:19 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Man, what Juve need is an Argentine star. If we look at Inter's recent success it's clear that the more Argentines in your team, the likelier you are to win! Everyone knows this, of course. That's why Inter signed Alvarez, and Roma are signing Lamela. That's why Palermo refuse 30M offers for Pastore, and Napoli 25M ones for Lavezzi. Hell, even Juve knows this, they're trying to get Aguero at all costs Very Happy

Last year is, obviously, the exception that proves the rule Wink

It's fine saying that, but because we have no choice but to disclose our transfer budget everyone wants to bleed us dry. I don't think we can compete for any Argentine players.

We used to have a strong Argentine link, Many from River I think. But we haven't had a truly great Argentine for a long time Sad
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