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Post by Lex Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:21 pm

So that's a 3rd team relegated under Redknapp. When will this man stop?
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Post by RealGunner Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:25 pm

QPR relegated and Bosingwa walks down the tunnel laughing :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Post by Kick Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:33 pm

Laughing

Bosingwa Proud

QPR are gone Proud
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Post by sportsczy Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:40 pm

Redknapp actually did ok. He took over when the team had 0 wins into December lol. I think they had 8 points.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:41 pm

sportsczy wrote:Redknapp actually did ok. He took over and the team had 0 wins into December lol.

He still ended up being further away from safety than they were when he took over though....
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Post by RealGunner Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:48 pm

Redknapp ended up with a worse record than Hughes and the manager after Hughes.

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Post by Art Morte Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:52 pm

So, which players will be moving on from QPR?

Julio Cesar? Is he still Brasil's first-choice? Would be the weirdest thing if their NT's keeper played in the Championship.

lol @ Samba, was poor and will probably make more in wages in the Championship than many sides' first XI down there.

Hoilett?

Taarabt?

Granero?

Remy?

Are there clubs willing to match their wages or are some of QPR's players willing to take a pay-cut just to join a higher status league?
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Post by Kick Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:05 pm

I wouldn't take any of their players. None of them have shown a shred of desire. Let them rot in the championship because thats where they have been heading since the start of the season, every single one of them deserves nothing better.
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Post by donttreadonred Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:37 pm

There will be A LOT of out-going players from QPR. Whether they (the players) stay in the Premier League or go abroad, I can't say. Granero could have a future in the Prem, as could Hoilett and Remy (both of which I'd take at LFC for the right price, including wages). They aren't the only ones, either. There are some others that could stay in the Prem with lower teams or as squad players/cover for starters. I actually thought Onuoha had a future in the league before this season... I don't really know what happened to him, tbh.

In any case, the big question for me is what ol' 'Arry Redknapp does. Will he stay? Will he feel that he's "too good" to manage in the Championship? Will he have other suitors in the summer?

Redknapp's situation is absolutely fascinating to me. In less than 18 months, he's gone from putting Spurs in the conversation of title challengers and being the favorite for the England job to unemployment, taking QPR knowing they were in a relegation scrap, managing the club into relegation, and possibly spending them into financial trouble in the process. This is the stuff Greek tragedies are made from.
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Post by Onyx Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:55 pm

Samba, Taarabt, Granero, Remy, Bosingwa, Hoilett, Julio Cesar and Mbia will all probably leave.

So will Cisse, Barton and Faurlin who are out on loan.

Not sure how they got relegated though. That squad should have at least stayed up with the quality they have.

In terms of Redknapp, I'm sure it won't detriment his reputation too much.

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Post by Art Morte Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:10 pm

Who is going to take those players on the wages they are on?
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Post by donttreadonred Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:13 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Samba, Taarabt, Granero, Remy, Bosingwa, Hoilett, Julio Cesar and Mbia will all probably leave.

So will Cisse, Barton and Faurlin who are out on loan.

Not sure how they got relegated though. That squad should have at least stayed up with the quality they have.

In terms of Redknapp, I'm sure it won't detriment his reputation too much.
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Post by Onyx Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:56 pm

Art Morte wrote:Who is going to take those players on the wages they are on?

What wages are they on? If they're on high wages, maybe a top team could afford them.

The older players would probably have to take a wage cut.

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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:04 pm

Hopefully J. Cesar has a clause which let's him leave for a low sum. Arsene get in there!!
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:07 pm

Cesar and Remy are the only good players they have.

The rest are ridiculously overrated.
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Post by Lex Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:08 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:
Art Morte wrote:Who is going to take those players on the wages they are on?

What wages are they on? If they're on high wages, maybe a top team could afford them
No top 4 team would ever bring in Samba on his £100k wages
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:10 pm

Samba is a mid table defender at best....

No big team would sign Samba for any wages he just simply isn't good enough.

Because you can head the ball it doesn't mean you are good enough for a good team.

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Post by VanDeezNuts Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:15 pm

i bet granero goes back to madrid.

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Post by sportsczy Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:18 pm

Actually:

QPR with Harry: 22 games, 4 wins, 9 draws, 9 losses = 21 ponts or about a point a game.

QPR before Harry: 13 games , 0 wins, 4 draws, 9 losses = 4 points.

Harry's been on the same pace as Pardew for the season lol. They wouldn't have been relegated with 35+ points at this point.
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Post by RedOranje Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:42 pm

I expect that Wigan will record at least one more win, meaning that the relegation cut-off will be higher than 35 points.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:48 pm

RedOranje wrote:I expect that Wigan will record at least one more win, meaning that the relegation cut-off will be higher than 35 points.
Harry is on a 36-37 point pace and keep in mind that QPR has tanked the last 2 games since they know they had no chance at saving themselves. They would be fighting much harder if they were just over the line and trying to hold on.
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Post by RedOranje Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:59 pm

If QPR win their next 3 games they'll have a maximum of 34 points.

The last two games were under 'Arry, right? So while it might not be conducive to your argument it still counts toward his record. And surely a manager has some part of the blame if the players fail to believe in the cause, especially when he brought a number of them in on extremely high wages and/or fees.
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:09 pm

Blaming 'Arry for QPR going down is preposterous. Hughes made bucketload of stupid signings in summer and showed what an overhyped manager he was and left the club in a mess.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:12 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:Blaming 'Arry for QPR going down is preposterous. Hughes made bucketload of stupid signings in summer and showed what an overhyped manager he was and left the club in a mess.

Again they were closer to safety when he took over than they are now....

Hughes takes blame but its just as preposterous to say Arry takes no blame either.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:16 pm

Apart from Cesar no player has a hope in hell getting into a 'top' team.

Remy? Laughing overrated, good but nothing more.
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