Bayern have paid € 40 million for a Spanish midfielder who doesn't even get into the Spanish squad. He's the sub of Busquets' sub.

And let's not even start to talk about his partner Slowsteiger ... sorry, Chokesteiger.

Bayern fans. Getting ahead of themselves because they beat an overrated Juve team. Spain beat that lot (Juve players + proper stikers in Balo + Cassano upfront) 4-0. Without Messi.

Se7en wrote:
Classic example of Mole Barca bias Seriously, answer the question Mole. What good team has Barca won without Messi?

The only time Barca doesn't field Messi is when the games don't matter. That's why they win them

Barca comfortably beat Mourinho's Inter 2-0 without Messi.

Why is Busquets meh ?

Started and Dominated the midfield when Barca won the CL against United in 08/09
Started and Dominated the midfield when Barca won the CL against United in 10/11
Started and Dominated the midfield when Spain won the WC 2010
Started and and Dominated the midfield when Spain won the Euro 2012

His position is unchallenged for Spain and Barca. One of the best passers in Europe. Has never been dominated by another player. Has gone up against one of the best Midfielders in the world in the names of Fabregas, Ozil, Pirlo, Scholes, Lampard and came out as the best.

So tell me again why is he "meh" ?

Well your disrespecting those two, Iniesta right now is a better player than Xavi. Either way as I said, the 3 of them have already proven themselves and do considerably more than that Bayern bunch

@bhends

Arsenals midfield of Diaby, Wilshere and Cesc. Another midfield who was supposedly going to win the midfield battle and came up short. But to give them credit, they did have spells of decent play and breaking presses.

Arsenal the next time I believe Song played instead of someone (I want to guess Wilshere)...though that one was probably as difficult

That ultra defensive Lampard, Essien and Ballack trio, probably as hard a midfield we have faced minus Inter.

But thats just on paper and names, on the actual field I assure everyone right now Estudantes and Shakhter's midfield was harder to get the better of than Bayerns will be.

Se7en wrote:

Classic example of Mole Barca bias Seriously, answer the question Mole. What good team has Barca won without Messi?

The only time Barca doesn't field Messi is when the games don't matter. That's why they win them

26 CL games without Messi and won 23 of them.... are you trying to tell me the BEST COMPETITION IN THE WORLD HAS BAD teams?

Anyway yeah what Futbol said they beat Inter 2-0 without Messi and Ibra for that matter, i'm not going to look back at every game since Messi broke through but their record without Messi in CL football is very good.

Aint seen nothing like Bayerns...their midfield is the most overrated thing about them, Im sick of hearing about it.

Man, its such a shame we suck now...in our prime we would of made them look as overrated as they are.

I will settle for just winning the battle now, which im pretty sure we will.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:26 CL games without Messi and won 23 of them.... are you trying to tell me the BEST COMPETITION IN THE WORLD HAS BAD teams?

Anyway yeah what Futbol said they beat Inter 2-0 without Messi and Ibra for that matter, i'm not going to look back at every game since Messi broke through but their record without Messi in CL football is very good.

Is that a joke? Really?
Who are these 23 teams?

Not Celtic?

Sky Sports News ran with the stat( got it from OPTA) before the PSG game so i suppose they would know.

I'm just saying if you win so many of the games you play without him doesn't really matter who it is against as its CL level then clearly the struggle without is great exaggerated.

Of course they struggled the other night but in the main i don't believe they do.

german nationalism brings out the wum in vivas

Did you watch Celtic? You really think it was the midfield that stopped us lol

Anyway, Celtic are decent...at least they were not pummelled like 14-1 like that last Bayern trash midfield that was sent out against us.

Glorious match

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Sky Sports News ran with the stat( got it from OPTA) before the PSG game so i suppose they would know.

I'm just saying if you win so many of the games you play without him doesn't really matter who it is against as its CL level then clearly the struggle without is great exaggerated.

Of course they struggled the other night but in the main i don't believe they do.

Well, i'm not accepting that. At all.

We constantly sit here day in and day out and complain and moan about some of the teams that play in the group stages of the CL saying they ain't good enough and now we're going to say that there aren't bad teams in the CL?

Come on now.

Bayern will end Barca's era.. Bayern will become the new dominant team in Europe. And alot of Barca's fanboys will start following Bayern

BAR 2-0 Inter? You found a good team that Barca won without Messi 3 and half years ago?

Yeah, not a lot has changed since.

I'm not even in the boat with the guys who already said Bayern was gonna win. I just think Bayern midfield is underrated. They'll probably still get done in by a couple ridiculous Messi Goals.

The Franchise wrote:Did you watch Celtic? You really think it was the midfield that stopped us lol

Anyway, Celtic are decent...at least they were not pummelled like 14-1 like that last Bayern trash midfield that was sent out against us.

The one with piggy as a winger? Yeah Bayern still play like that...

RealGunner wrote:

Looks like i got it wrong.... i knew they lost 3 games but didn't think they drew any games.

Still though a very good record considering how they are so incredibly bad without him....

Keep living in delusion.

RealGunner wrote:

Since 2004-05

Translation: Barca won a lot of their games without Messi before Messi was Messi

I think FCB will win it tbh

According to wikipedia Messi has 78 CL apps, not 45

Harmonica wrote:Keep living in delusion.

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VivaStPauli wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Did you watch Celtic? You really think it was the midfield that stopped us lol

Anyway, Celtic are decent...at least they were not pummelled like 14-1 like that last Bayern trash midfield that was sent out against us.

The one with piggy as a winger? Yeah Bayern still play like that...

Who said they did?

I am very aware Bayern have a different and better midfield.

However, im indifferent...we have beaten better already...what has Bayern done?

This is really the problem here. You dont have to like Busquets, Iniesta and Xavi..but to ignore what they have done is frankly stupid..and then to turn around and hype up Bayerns, who have done Jack nothing in comparison...laughable.

As I said, maybe Bayern even in the midfield battle..who knows....lets see.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Harmonica wrote:Keep living in delusion.

Ok but only if you agree to keep riding Messi's cock....i'm shocked he doesn't get injured more often with you clinging on to him sucking him off 24/7.

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