Do you trust statistical player ratings?

I don't mean to imply that they're perfect, or even very accurate. But sometimes when I miss a match I go over to whoscored.com and check out their player ratings to see how players I keep a tab on are performing. I think they're trustworthy to the extent that you understand they don't encapsulate everything and take them with a grain of salt. I believe there was a thread named "Can't really argue with this" or something along those lines that posted their best eleven based on these and most people agreed it was fairly decent as far as form is concerned. They're better than goal.com ratings anyway

I would rather ask a Madrid fans opinion on a Barca game. Thats how little.

6.5 was the rating some sources gave Fab and Pedro for the Milan game Thats how much I trust Player Ratings...

Stats suck in general, unless you are talking about dribbles completed per game of course

Whoscored? Don't trust the rating, but I do find their match stats per player a bit useful.
Anyway, I'm not exactly happy with the idea of assigning 1 number/value/statement to summarize the whole performance of a player, will never be accurate enough.

I think you just have to watch games and see which site usually has similar ratings to what you'd give.

Don't even check them/look at them ever.

alexander mahone wrote:Whoscored? Don't trust the rating, but I do find their match stats per player a bit useful.
Anyway, I'm not exactly happy with the idea of assigning 1 number/value/statement to summarize the whole performance of a player, will never be accurate enough.

My thoughts too. Love whoscored for stats, but the player ratings are rather misleading. Hell, goal.com ratings are miles better

For example whoscored ranks Juve CBs in the following order:
Lucio (8.17) > Peluso(7.86) > Chiellini (7.83) > Barzagli (7.31)> Bonucci (7.18) > Marrone (6.73) > Caceres (6.67)

Now any Juve fan will tell you Peluso and Lucio have been poor whilst Barzagli has been an absolute rock. Doubt anyone would comprehend any rating that gives Peluso more than 5/10!

I wouldn't check from stats how a player has done in a single game, but in the long run I give stats a fair bit of credit in telling how good a player has been.

I personally find whoscored (OPTA) very accurate in general, because it tries to take everything that happened objectively into account, you can see immediatelly from the stats why player got good ratings, and they correlate also very well with general opinion.

aant123 wrote:

alexander mahone wrote:Whoscored? Don't trust the rating, but I do find their match stats per player a bit useful.
Anyway, I'm not exactly happy with the idea of assigning 1 number/value/statement to summarize the whole performance of a player, will never be accurate enough.

My thoughts too. Love whoscored for stats, but the player ratings are rather misleading. Hell, goal.com ratings are miles better

For example whoscored ranks Juve CBs in the following order:
Lucio (8.17) > Peluso(7.86) > Chiellini (7.83) > Barzagli (7.31)> Bonucci (7.18) > Marrone (6.73) > Caceres (6.67)

Now any Juve fan will tell you Peluso and Lucio have been poor whilst Barzagli has been an absolute rock. Doubt anyone would comprehend any rating that gives Peluso more than 5/10!

Well amount of games is taken into account. That is why Lucio and Peluso are ahead of Bonucci and Barzagli. Lucio played 1 match and his performance warranted him a rating of 8.17 for example.

I think whoscored is decent, but the worst is goal.com

The Franchise wrote:I would rather ask a Madrid fans opinion on a Barca game. Thats how little.

We'd give you an answer more grounded in reality tbh

Doubtful.

Casciavit wrote:

aant123 wrote:

alexander mahone wrote:Whoscored? Don't trust the rating, but I do find their match stats per player a bit useful.
Anyway, I'm not exactly happy with the idea of assigning 1 number/value/statement to summarize the whole performance of a player, will never be accurate enough.

My thoughts too. Love whoscored for stats, but the player ratings are rather misleading. Hell, goal.com ratings are miles better

For example whoscored ranks Juve CBs in the following order:
Lucio (8.17) > Peluso(7.86) > Chiellini (7.83) > Barzagli (7.31)> Bonucci (7.18) > Marrone (6.73) > Caceres (6.67)

Now any Juve fan will tell you Peluso and Lucio have been poor whilst Barzagli has been an absolute rock. Doubt anyone would comprehend any rating that gives Peluso more than 5/10!

Well amount of games is taken into account. That is why Lucio and Peluso are ahead of Bonucci and Barzagli. Lucio played 1 match and his performance warranted him a rating of 8.17 for example.

I think whoscored is decent, but the worst is goal.com

True Lucio played 1 game and Peluso has played 2 so far, but they were average and awful respectively in those games. Case in point Peluso v Sampdoria was at fault for both goals but got 8.06 WS score.