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Post by billionmillion Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:24 pm

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2012/10/12/3444131/mourinho-it-would-be-a-crime-if-ronaldo-does-not-win-the

This is same Mourinho who said CR didnt deserve his only Ballon Dor in 2008 and Kaka, Ibrahimovic or Messi should have won it instead of CR. Now he calls others hypocrites but he himself is the biggest hypocrite. You will not win Ballon Dor crying provoking or influencing people
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Post by Zealous Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:28 pm

You can hate on Mourinho and even if he is what you say it doesn't mean that what he said is incorrect.

Ronaldo absolutely deserves the Balon D'Or. Thinking that is not a crime.
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Post by Onyx Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:30 pm

Mourinho's only saying that because Ronaldo plays for his team.

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Post by billionmillion Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:34 pm

Few days ago he said both are from another planet. Then CR started to cry at dressing room now Mourinho changed his mind and disrespect Messi and overrate Ronaldo. CR should stop crying, if he deserves it he will win it if not then crying will not change it. it became so important for CR, i guess if he doesnt win it he will die
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Post by jontsu Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:34 pm

Well he didnt say that, Mou said he deserved it based on his trophies which he won in 08. But he then said that he dont place him in same category with Kaka, ibra & Messi
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Post by The Messiah Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:36 pm

Everyone try's to paint Ronaldo as one weak guy who always cries, for all you know he's as hard as a rock in real life.


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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:48 pm

he is not overrating Ronaldo billionmillion lol

Ronaldo hands down deserves the Ballond'or and he has just voiced that, you didn't see anyone him included complain when Missi won it last year, but this year he definitely deserved it. so the guy has a poiint, and no don't think "this" shows what an hypocrite he is
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Post by Onyx Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:51 pm

How does Ronaldo deserve it?

Individually Messi has been better and is better than Ronaldo.

It's not about the club trophies Ronaldo won, it's about individual performance and Messi is a better overall player than Ronaldo.

Even Mourinho deep down probably knows Messi's better, he's just saying Ronaldo deserves it to boost morale at the club. Just like he forces every Real Madrid player to believe what he does.

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Post by billionmillion Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:52 pm

Marcelo: Messi is the best...few weeks later Ronaldo is the best
Higuain: Messi is the best...few weeks later they are on same level
Casillas: Messi is the best...few months later Ronaldo is the best
Mourinho: they are both the best...few days later Ronaldo is the best

Guess what happens behind scenes. If its up to people they will say Messi and CR will win nothing. Do you even thing CR have a chance? maybe if madrid media and madrid people do their job correctly

halamadrid2 he can overrate his player as much as he can. but should speak respectful about others, "messi is selling good images", "he is good because of system"...this is what he says basically. its not true even if its true he should speak respectful
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Post by RealGunner Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:53 pm

Why does Ronaldo Deserve it more than Messi ?
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Post by Zealous Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:53 pm

billionmillion wrote:Few days ago he said both are from another planet.

He said in the interview that because Tito said Messi was much better he was forced to make this claim to make sure things were equal.

Did you even read the article you linked? I wouldn't put it past you.
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:53 pm

Totally agree with Mourinho. Ronaldo deserves the Ballon d'Or this time. It would be the biggest farce if he wouldn't win it.


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Post by Zealous Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:54 pm

RealGunner wrote:Why does Ronaldo Deserve it more than Messi ?

Really?
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Post by Zealous Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:56 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:How does Ronaldo deserve it?

Individually Messi has been better and is better than Ronaldo.

It's not about the club trophies Ronaldo won, it's about individual performance and Messi is a better overall player than Ronaldo.

Even Mourinho deep down probably knows Messi's better, he's just saying Ronaldo deserves it to boost morale at the club. Just like he forces every Real Madrid player to believe what he does.

Your claims are completely false though. Also didn't know you could read minds bro.

Messi was the goat against Santos, Plzen and Leverkusen and teams of that level last year. That is literally the extent of how good his season was.
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:59 pm

RealGunner wrote:Why does Ronaldo Deserve it more than Messi ?

would you have asked this question had it been Benzema vs Missi

Why did Missi deserve it last year??? Ronaldo scored more than him but Missi won more trophies than him, but thats a no-factor no?? since Ronaldo doesn't even deserve to win it despite leading Madrid to its first LaLiga title in 4 years, nearly took Madrid to the final in CL and helped madrid win the first trophy of this season and led Portugal to semi-final all that while having a Sunday league striker to feed the ball to in Portugal

lets just forget the reason Barca were so far behind us was last season abd didn't get into the final of the CL was because how mediocre Missi was for over 2-4 months, leading Barca to losses against Osasuna, Chelsea etc hence the word Missi has been derived from that Laughing


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Post by RealGunner Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:59 pm

Zealous wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Why does Ronaldo Deserve it more than Messi ?

Really?

yes really.
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Post by Lex Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:06 pm

Messi is still the better player. Every CRonaldo scores a goal against Barcelona, people want him shortlisted for a knighthood, or to be placed in the running for President of the United States
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:07 pm

Lex wrote:Messi is still the better player. Every CRonaldo scores a goal against Barcelona, people want him shortlisted for a knighthood, or to be placed in the running for President of the United States

for those who don't know good ol' lex, this guy is a self-proclaimed Ronaldo hater

i am just waiting for Missi to insult Arsenal so that you can finally take off those hate Ronaldo shades you have got on atm :I'mveryunoriginal:
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Post by Lex Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:12 pm

I hate Barcelona more than i hate Madrid. But I'm not blind. Anyone with two eyes and a working brain can see that Messi is still the better player
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Post by RealGunner Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:13 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:

would you have asked this question had it been Benzema vs Missi

yea.

Why did Missi deserve it last year??? Ronaldo scored more than him but Missi won more trophies than him, but thats a no-factor no?? since Ronaldo doesn't even deserve to win it despite leading Madrid to its first LaLiga title in 4 years, nearly took Madrid to the final in CL and helped madrid win the first trophy of this season and led Portugal to semi-final all that while having a Sunday league striker to feed the ball to in Portugal


Ronaldo didn't lead Madrid to the La liga title. That's exaggeration. Benzema scored 21 goals in the league, Higuain scored 22 . Wasn't Ozil Madrid's player of the year ?

Ronaldo was the reason you didn't make it to the CL final, think you are forgetting that. Messi was the top scorer in the tournament.

And Don't over exaggerate Ronaldo's Performance in the Euros. He was motm for one game, Disappeared everytime his team needed him after that. Chickened out from taking a penalty which would have got Portugal into the next round...


lets just forget the reason Barca were so far behind us was last season abd didn't get into the final of the CL was because how mediocre Missi was for over 2 months, leading Barca to losses against Osasuna etc hence the word Missi has been derived from that Laughing

"Medicore" messi scored 73 goals in that season. I don't think how that is something to laugh about ?

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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:14 pm

@lex,how??

because he has more assists?? or because people find it easier to pick faults of Ronaldo while completely ignoring the fact that Missi has started this season very badly and finished last season the same and Tello has been carrying them on his back lol
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Post by kiranr Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:20 pm

Messi is better than Ronaldo. Are you guys actually trying to prove that Ronaldo played at a higher level than Messi last season? Because that is just not possible.

Ronaldo is a goal scorer and nothing else. He does not really create except from a counter-attacking play. He makes runs and is often at the end of plays but that is the extent of his contribution on the pitch. I just cannot understand in what way Ronaldo actually played better than Messi last season.

I am not saying Messi deserves the Balon D'or or CR does not deserve it, but Messi played at a much higher level than CR last year. Messi is in a league of his own at the moment.
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Post by Lex Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:23 pm

I forgot Cronaldo's exploits in the Euros Laughing Refusing to take a penalty lool

Ballon D'or material indeed Laughing
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:25 pm

RealGunner wrote:Ronaldo didn't lead Madrid to the La liga title. That's exaggeration. Benzema scored 21 goals in the league, Higuain scored 22 . Wasn't Ozil Madrid's player of the year ?

In the more harder games where we needed to score, take Rayo or Atleti for example, he single handly won us all 3 points there where was Benzema??, Ronaldo was the one who delivered, and its not his fault nobody in Barca are allowed to score to not hurt Missi's feelings, no Ozil wasn't named the best Ronaldo was and rightfully so

Ronaldo was the reason you didn't make it to the CL final, think you are forgetting that. Messi was the top scorer in the tournament.

Ronaldo scored 2 of our 3 goals, its not his fault Cacktrao doesn't know how to defend, Benzema completely flopped and Ramos skied the penalty, he did everything that is human possible for him to do.

And Don't over exaggerate Ronaldo's Performance in the Euros. He was motm for one game, Disappeared everytime his team needed him after that. Chickened out from taking a penalty which would have got Portugal into the next round...

Played bad for only two games, the rest he was their best player espeically against Cezh Republic and Holland two games they desperately needed to win to progress, also he didn't chicken out lol, he just decided to take the last penalty and thats his choice we would not have discussed this had Alves known how to kick a damn ball


"Medicore" messi scored 73 goals in that season. I don't think how that is something to laugh about ?
scored 73 in all competitions during the course of the season, didn't call him mediocre overall but during a very important time when they were trailing us and had a chance to close the gap, not to mention his penalty against Chelsea that propably got them the loss and all his other horrendous misses in other games that prevented Barca from winning because the other guys he plays with have signed a contract saying they can't score lots of goals or else they would get kicked out

All in all, Missi has nothing on Ronaldo other than his goals which he got by playing in some Club worldcup and a bunch of shat teams in cl where he was able to pad his stats. Barca have been put in a lolworthy group, wouldn't be surprised if he hit 80 goals


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Post by Arquitecto Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:26 pm

Lex wrote:I forgot Cronaldo's exploits in the Euros Laughing Refusing to take a penalty lool

Ballon D'or material indeed Laughing

Let it go Lex Laughing

RG just completely blow the argument out of the water with his post.

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