Re: How good was Guti at his best?

by Onyx Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:41 pm

Well Guti was at the club after Zidane retired.

by The Franchise Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:56 pm

When Zidane left, he moved further forward into a more advanced role. Zidane leaving opened up that space for him.

It was only with Zidane did he play deep.

by McAgger Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:15 pm

The Franchise wrote:Yes, when Zidane was in the team mostly. And are you going to say he ran games, while Zidane was alongside him? Probably not.

tbf to Guti he was class in our 4-1 win over Barca. He helped dominate a midfield of Xavi, Yaya, and Messi (iirc had replaced Iniesta that) with Gago and Mamadou.

But that was only one game I remember of him completely being in control of the midfield, so that doesn't really help he argument.

by Onyx Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:23 pm

Actually Guti played CM too when Zidane left.

by Real Kandahar Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:40 pm

Guti actually controlled the game as far as i remember in the 4-1 madrid win in 2008 against barca and 3-3 in camp nou in 2006-07

by The Franchise Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:33 am

1. As I had, hardly ever centermid

2. Winning the game or doing well doesntequal dominating the midfield. You people say this about Gago too.

by FalcaoPunch Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:43 pm

On his day he was amazing. But it's summed up in this topic already

by Real Kandahar Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:15 am

The Franchise wrote:1. As I had, hardly ever centermid

2. Winning the game or doing well doesntequal dominating the midfield. You people say this about Gago too.

how good is gago exactly according to you? would he make a good sub for busquets in barceloba , hypothetically? or is he better than that

by Zealous Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:25 am

He was a beast in his first year and 2006/2007, was also good in the Pellegrini season.

Guti's assists could decide a game in an instant. I feel honoured to have seen him at his best, because at his best he was really really good, much better than he's given credit for imo.

Lord knows he's been just as frustrating though eco smile

by The Franchise Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:09 am

I have to admit I dont know Gago. He has no defensive skills at all and I have see him give up when things got hard in more than one Barca game.

He has the skills, has the awareness of time and space but doesnt have the defensive grit and he doesnt like being pressed either, loses alot of his composure.

by Zealous Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:31 am

Gago is too weak mentally to be a top player imo. Sad because he has everything else a player in his position needs.

by The Sanchez Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:44 am

Real Kandahar wrote:Guti actually controlled the game as far as i remember in the 4-1 madrid win in 2008 against barca and 3-3 in camp nou in 2006-07

A win doesn't mean he controlled the game... He hardly controlled any game let alone big games... His final ball and through passes is what he is probably known for though tbh he was too inconsistent. Being mentioned among the greats is an insult to players such as Pirlo, Gerrard, Xavi etc.

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