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Post by Real Kandahar Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:56 am

comparable to xavi? Pirlo? Gerrard? Alonso?
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Post by sportsczy Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:50 am

inconsistent. could look like a world beater on game and a pub player the next... he's not a madrid legend. he's just very public.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:12 am

Not that good.

Even on fire, he couldnt defend a lick, had zero workrate and didnt really beat players.

His final pass was the only thing great about him, when he decieded to show play.
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Post by Highburied Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:31 am

Gutti's through balls... :bow:






Thats about it..
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Post by the xcx Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:40 am

Used to be Goat but his temper was always a problem. Inconsistent describes him best.
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Post by Jack Daniels Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:52 am

A great passer of the ball. That's about it i guess.

Too inconsistent to be in the same level as the mentioned above.
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Post by urbaNRoots Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:53 am

Typical YouTube legend.
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Post by Valkyrja Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:22 pm

On his day you couldn't find a better mdf . His vision and thourgh-balls were top notch.
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Post by Jack Daniels Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:26 pm

Kizu wrote:On his day you couldn't find a better mdf . His vision and thourgh-balls were top notch.
Though everyone might agree that on his day, he has one of the best final balls of his generation. But, his overall play wasn't good enough to be considered as a great midfielder of his time and i do think even on his day, there were many better midfielders than him.
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Post by Onyx Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:53 pm

Best passer in the World. :bow:

Underrate imo.

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:33 pm

Through-balls and passing that's about it

Had 0 work-rate, had 0 defensive skills, had 0 regard for managers and other players that were not Spanish.

Loved his final ball but was a player I ultimately hated as a whole and was glad to see leave Real Madrid

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Post by StevieRayVaughan Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:28 pm

he is a liability, thats just the best way to describe him. Even his passing is hugely overrated, producing one magic moment in like 10 games( its more like 5 but still) doesnt deserve lot of praise. His lack of work ethic put his teammates under constant pressure.

I am not necessarily talking about this forum, but many of the madrid fans I know consider him a legend which is so bizzare. But i guess people often remember the magic moments of a player and forget the rest.

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Post by Valkyrja Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:31 pm

I don't consider him a legend, not at all. But his vision, creativity and through-balls(long/short) were the best.
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Post by Jack Daniels Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:40 pm

Kizu wrote:I don't consider him a legend, not at all. But his vision, creativity and through-balls(long/short) were the best.
Disagree on the term "Best" as Laudrup's was way better.
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Post by Onyx Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:19 pm

Guti controlled games. It wasn't just a magic pass every 10 games.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:55 pm

Guti controlled what? lol no, the guys above said it, he had monstrous talent for playing the final pass, his vision was fantastic, but the rest...awful. A shame because few players have that kind of gift and he did nothing with it.
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Post by Onyx Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:31 pm

He controlled the midfield well imo.

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Post by Sushi Master Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:12 am

Highly overrated. There's a reason why he's never spoken amongst other Madrid greats of the era.
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Post by Onyx Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:09 pm

That was due to his inconsistency imo.

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Post by truereddevil Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:09 am

talent wise he is up there but considering what he turned out he doesnt deserve to be with pirlos and gerrards scholsey etc
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Post by The Franchise Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:21 am

Guti rarely ever controlled games.

He was too lazy to come deep enough to get all the touch needed to do so. He had a spell playing deep, but that was in the same team as Zidane and co. He obviously didnt control anything as time, he was just an akward fitting cog.
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Post by Onyx Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:49 pm

Guti played CM as well.

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Post by RealGunner Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:21 pm

Pretty much everything has been said.

His final ball was a joy at times. Had fantastic vision. But other attributes were meh
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Post by The Franchise Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:26 pm

Yes, when Zidane was in the team mostly. And are you going to say he ran games, while Zidane was alongside him? Probably not.
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Post by Onyx Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:41 pm

Well Guti was at the club after Zidane retired.

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