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Post by aleumdance Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:36 pm

cyberman wrote:You'll get 22m and be damn thankful lol

I am desperation to take over ur rivals make u do stupid things

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Post by cyberman Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:37 pm

City weren't gonna pay him what? Juve were dismissed because of the scandal.. I mean come on
Is moving from arsenal to utd to win things seem ridiculous to you?

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Post by Gil Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:39 pm

City offered him £150k, Arsenal £160k.

United £220k.

Joined for the money.
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Post by cyberman Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:42 pm

He should join utd and play for free then...

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Post by izzy Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:45 pm

Gil wrote:City offered him £150k, Arsenal £160k.

United £220k.

Joined for the money.

And you know this how?
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Post by cyberman Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:47 pm

From what I read. City never even offered him a contract since hendlatbout said no from the start
If I remember reading juve offered him 200k

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Post by RED Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:47 pm

Looks a great deal imo. If Rooney gets injured, we're basically screwed in the goal scoring front. Chicha is in bad form, Berbs is off, Welbeck is great but is not prolific yet. We need another world class striker.

Looking forward to seeing how this all unfolds.
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Post by RED Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:47 pm

Gil wrote:City offered him £150k, Arsenal £160k.

United £220k.

Joined for the money.

source? bruh
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Post by MindGames7 Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:02 pm

RED wrote:Looks a great deal imo. If Rooney gets injured, we're basically screwed in the goal scoring front. Chicha is in bad form, Berbs is off, Welbeck is great but is not prolific yet. We need another world class striker.

Looking forward to seeing how this all unfolds.

Thing is though, even if we lost all but one our strikers, we'd be absolutely fine because we'd be better in possession, more defensively secure and we'd create more chances if we had more midfielders in the team.

What you've said is basically the equivalent of all those fans saying we'd be screwed without Ronaldo. Goals are just the finishing touch to all the hard work done by the midfielders and defenders behind them. Ronaldo didn't contribute to the build up much at all, in fact he was quite detrimental to it, so when we lost him and brought Valencia in, surprise, surprise, someone else started getting 40 goals a season.
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Post by Firenze Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:08 pm

There's no way RVP would be on 220K a week with us.
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Post by RED Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:10 pm

Good point, but I still think....

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Maybe in some games we'll be fine, but there will be games where we need that added bit of quality up front to get us the goals, other than Rooney. Without him, we can at times be very wasteful.

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Post by MindGames7 Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:19 pm

RED wrote:Good point, but I still think....

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Maybe in some games we'll be fine, but there will be games where we need that added bit of quality up front to get us the goals, other than Rooney. Without him, we can at times be very wasteful.


Wasteful without Rooney eh...

This is a list of our players in order of their wastefullness, statistically.

92 - Ferdinand
89 - Evans
89 - Carrick
88 - Vidic
88 - Scholes
85 - Fletcher
83 - Cleverley
83 - Rafael
82 - Anderson
81 - Smalling
80 - Evra
80 - Jones
72 - Valencia
72 - Welbeck
71 - Kagawa
71 - Giggs
70 - Rooney
69 - Berbatov
68 - Young
67 - Hernandez
65 - Nani

Even if we sold Rooney, we'd have absolutely nothing to worry about. Smile

Now when we lose Scholes, Carrick, Vidic and Ferdinand - be afraid. Be very afraid.

Nah not really. Our reserve team at the moment is shockingly good.
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Post by Gil Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:28 pm

Firenze wrote:There's no way RVP would be on 220K a week with us.

He wants parity with Rooney. So yeah, there is a way.
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:57 pm

cyberman wrote:City weren't gonna pay him what? Juve were dismissed because of the scandal.. I mean come on
Is moving from arsenal to utd to win things seem ridiculous to you?

City may be stupid, but even a blind man can see spending 70m on half man half glass is just stupid.

With out Song and Walcott killing themselves to feed him the ball he is not the half of the player he was last year.

Rooney gets 250k a week, isn't that more than Messi?
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Post by Onyx Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:03 pm

220k a week. Shocked

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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:13 pm

mtfootball wrote:220k a week. Shocked

How much is Messi and Ronaldo?

I really dont get United, why not spend another 10m and buy Cavani or Falcao?
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Post by Onyx Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:16 pm

Not sure. Are there any websites that show player salaries weekly?

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Post by Emaharg Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:25 pm

Surely United has to get rid of someone before signing RVP.
Chico, Welbeck, Berbatov Rooney(although he plays deeper.)
This transfer makes little sense to me with how Chico and Welbeck did last season also is Macheda still there or has he left?
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:27 pm

mtfootball wrote:Not sure. Are there any websites that show player salaries weekly?
This list is from the time he signed the contract, not sure why Messi is not on the list. hmm

THE ten highest paid footballers in the world are:

1. Wayne Rooney, 24, Man United, £250,000 a week

2. Cristiano Ronaldo, 25, Real Madrid, £217,308.

3. Zlatan Ibrahimovic, 29, Barcelona, £200,000.

4. Yaya Toure, 27, Manchester City, £185,000 5. Lionel Messi, 23, Barcelona, £175,000.

5. Samuel Eto’o, 29, Inter Milan, £175,000.

7. Kaka, 28, Real Madrid, £167,307.

8. Emmanuel Adebayor, 26, Man City, £142,307.

8. Karim Benzema, 22, Real Madrid, £142,307.

10. Carlos Tevez, 26, Man City, £134,615.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3193705/Wayne-Rooney-on-250k-a-week.html#ixzz23ZtIAv2V
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Post by SchinnerC Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:01 pm

MindGames7 wrote:
gunnerlistick wrote:lol I have a feeling he will play Kagawa and Carrick in midfield

Surely not. :facepalm:

Best possible team would be:

De Gea
Rafael-Ferdinand-Evans-Evra
Fletcher-Carrick
Valencia-Scholes-Cleverley
Welbeck

But he'll go and play:

De Gea
Jones-Ferdinand-Vidic-Evra
Valencia-Carrick-Kagawa-Nani
van Persie-Rooney

Which works against small teams when we're at home but against tougher opposition that team will fail.

Lol @ your best possible team. Playing players out of position will make the team better overall hmm
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Post by Dutti Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:40 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:
mtfootball wrote:220k a week. Shocked

How much is Messi and Ronaldo?

I really dont get United, why not spend another 10m and buy Cavani or Falcao?

After Berbatov, I think United are too scared to spend big. In fact, some United official (I think it was David Gill) publicly vouched not to make such spending anymore after Berbatov, and so far it has been true.

So forget Cavani and especially Falcao.
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Post by Dnmac4 Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:22 pm

Why would they want Cavani and Falcao? Yes they are great players but they are not proven in the EPL and both would cost between 40-50 mill. United need help ASAP to compete and take the title back from City, they can't have any settling in period they need production right away which RVP will give if he's healthy.

I think some of you are forgetting that they are going to pick up a top 10 striker in the world for 22 mill. That is good business and he is a proven goalscorer in the EPL when healthy. Who cares what they pay him, in the grand scheme of things if they pay him 200k or 220k it really doesn't make a difference for one of the biggest clubs in the world.

If this move goes through it's all about the EPL for United. They used to be the bully in the EPL and City came to there playground and punched them right in the mouth and told them to go play somewhere else (cough 6-2 cough)

SAF hates City and he knows they have to get more world class players on the team not just people who fit his system if he wants to compete with City year in and year out for the next couple years or City will own the EPL.

It has always seemed to me that SAF places the EPL first not the CL and you can tell by the way he builds his teams. I think he knows right now he can't magically make a few signings and compete with Barca, Bayern or Real so like I said this is all about being king of the hill in the EPL IMO and it the right move to make.
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Post by cyberman Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:56 pm

Adding the best player from germany and the EPL to a squad that reached 3 finals in 4 years isn't a sign of competing with European best?

Am I missing something here? Its not as if the EPL has a recent history of deep runs in the cl FFs...
People need to remember who we are...

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Post by SchinnerC Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:42 pm

Theoretically, we can't win without a proper functioning midfield. However SAF always prove us wrong. I just hope we'll sign a top class midfielder to win BPL in style, unlike 2010/2011. Come on United!!
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Post by jibers Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:44 pm

SchinnerC wrote:Theoretically, we can't win without a proper functioning midfield. However SAF always prove us wrong. I just hope we'll sign a top class midfielder to win BPL in style, unlike 2010/2011. Come on United!!

If Fletcher is back our MF is complete TBH
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Post by yoonie Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:54 pm

I'm getting tired of hearing people slagging off RVP and saying that he is too old for Manchester United.

Why go for Van Persie for 22 million when you can get the great Heskey for free

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