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Which player will stop Messi?
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Re: Which player will stop Messi?
Lord Hispano wrote:CBarca wrote:Hey guys I have a great idea, let's just use gifs as our main arguments so we can pick and choose specific points in a match as backup evidence and the spine of an argument rather than looking at matches as a whole and judging performances based on the match both people should have (presumably) watched.
Oh, and youtube too!
Because single moments are indicative of entire matches.
You should tell that to Jiopsi. I'm only mocking his trolling game. Trollface.
I've tried, trust me. He's a troll, no point in trying to any longer.
In fact even that comment was mostly aimed at him.
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Re: Which player will stop Messi?
Injuries or old-age (30's).. We won't see a better player in at least 20 years
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Re: Which player will stop Messi?
Only Messi can really stop himself.
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Re: Which player will stop Messi?
Nesta stopped Messi?
Group 1 2-2
Nesta 90min, 1 yellow on Messi, should have been two
1-1 Messi assist (Pedro)
1-2 -
Group 2 2-3
Nesta 66min
0-1 Messi 2nd assister (Keita->Own Goal)
1-2 Messi goal (penalty, Messi part in buildup play)
2-3 Messi assist (Xavi)
QF 1st 0-0
Nesta 75min, 1 yellow on Messi
QF 2nd 3-1
Nesta 90min
1-0 Messi goal (penalty, Messi fouled player)
2-1 Messi goal (penalty)
3-1 Messi assist (Iniesta)
Overall Against Milan 4 Games (Nesta on the field)
3 goals + 3 assists @ 4 games
involved in 7/8 goals
2 yellows for Nesta
If that's stopping Messi, then I'm afraid everybody stops Messi in every game.
Group 1 2-2
Nesta 90min, 1 yellow on Messi, should have been two
1-1 Messi assist (Pedro)
1-2 -
Group 2 2-3
Nesta 66min
0-1 Messi 2nd assister (Keita->Own Goal)
1-2 Messi goal (penalty, Messi part in buildup play)
2-3 Messi assist (Xavi)
QF 1st 0-0
Nesta 75min, 1 yellow on Messi
QF 2nd 3-1
Nesta 90min
1-0 Messi goal (penalty, Messi fouled player)
2-1 Messi goal (penalty)
3-1 Messi assist (Iniesta)
Overall Against Milan 4 Games (Nesta on the field)
3 goals + 3 assists @ 4 games
involved in 7/8 goals
2 yellows for Nesta
If that's stopping Messi, then I'm afraid everybody stops Messi in every game.
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Re: Which player will stop Messi?
most of what you listed had absolutely nothing to do with messi vs nesta or silva.
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Re: Which player will stop Messi?
So selective.
Most of those never involved Messi actually beating Nesta. This is called Jiopsi's false numbers tactic.
Most of those never involved Messi actually beating Nesta. This is called Jiopsi's false numbers tactic.
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Re: Which player will stop Messi?
Not sure if serious?Ganso wrote:most of what you listed had absolutely nothing to do with messi vs nesta or silva.
Assist to Pedro dribbles past Nesta
Keita goal, lobs pass over and past Nesta
Assist to Xavi, pass past Nesta
Assist to Iniesta, dribbles past Nesta
So Nesta was involved directly with Messi in 4/7 goals, where Messi was involved. He also caused 1 penaltie that Messi scored.
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Re: Which player will stop Messi?
Only Pedro and and iniesta's goals were humanly possible to stop
how exactly was nesta supposed to stop messi in that own goal when he was meters away from messi
how exactly was nesta supposed to stop messi in that own goal when he was meters away from messi
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Re: Which player will stop Messi?
jiopsi wrote:Not sure if serious?
Keita goal, lobs pass over and past Nesta
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Yes, that what I did, again. I don't see any arguments coming from you anymore how "Nesta stopped Messi"?Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Not sure if serious?
Keita goal, lobs pass over and past Nesta
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jiopsi wrote:Yes, that what I did, again. I don't see any arguments coming from you anymore how "Nesta stopped Messi"?Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Not sure if serious?
Keita goal, lobs pass over and past Nesta
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That's cause I don't use arguments I use facts. And I've yet to see how Messi was involved in that Keita goal. 2nd Penalty goal is tied to the ref as well so that narrows it to 2. 2 goals where you say Nesta got Dribbled.
Not sure if serious indeed.
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What facts did you use?Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Yes, that what I did, again. I don't see any arguments coming from you anymore how "Nesta stopped Messi"?Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Not sure if serious?
Keita goal, lobs pass over and past Nesta
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That's cause I don't use arguments I use facts. And I've to see how Messi was involved in that Keita goal. 2nd Penalty goal is tied to the ref as well so that narrows it to 2.
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The ones I posted right above you previous post.jiopsi wrote:What facts did you use?Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Yes, that what I did, again. I don't see any arguments coming from you anymore how "Nesta stopped Messi"?Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Not sure if serious?
Keita goal, lobs pass over and past Nesta
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That's cause I don't use arguments I use facts. And I've to see how Messi was involved in that Keita goal. 2nd Penalty goal is tied to the ref as well so that narrows it to 2.
Still waiting on the Keita goal attributed to Messi.
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Lucas Moura :_s
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Ummm one those Bolivian defenders from last time
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Facts? I just showed how Messi beat Nesta on 4/7 goals, which I think is the most factually, 2 times with dribble and 2 times with pass.Lord Hispano wrote:The ones I posted right above you previous post.jiopsi wrote:What facts did you use?Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Yes, that what I did, again. I don't see any arguments coming from you anymore how "Nesta stopped Messi"?Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Not sure if serious?
Keita goal, lobs pass over and past Nesta
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That's cause I don't use arguments I use facts. And I've to see how Messi was involved in that Keita goal. 2nd Penalty goal is tied to the ref as well so that narrows it to 2.
Still waiting on the Keita goal attributed to Messi.
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There can only be one
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jiopsi wrote:Facts? I just showed how Messi beat Nesta on 4/7 goals, which I think is the most, 2 times with dribble and 2 times with pass.
2 times with Dribble, on Nesta? Keita is Messi all of a sudden.
I'm busting your myth Jiopsi.
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Yes two times on dribble, in Pedroi's and Iniesta's goals. Why do you even argue about something you have no knowledge or memory?Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Facts? I just showed how Messi beat Nesta on 4/7 goals, which I think is the most, 2 times with dribble and 2 times with pass.
2 times with Dribble, on Nesta? Keita is Messi all of a sudden.
I'm busting your myth Jiopsi.
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Re: Which player will stop Messi?
Messi doesn't score =/= Nesta/Silva stopping Messi
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jiopsi wrote:Yes two times on dribble, in Xavi's and Iniesta's goals. Why do you even argue about something you have no knowledge or memory?Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Facts? I just showed how Messi beat Nesta on 4/7 goals, which I think is the most, 2 times with dribble and 2 times with pass.
2 times with Dribble, on Nesta? Keita is Messi all of a sudden.
I'm busting your myth Jiopsi.
I do have a memory and I never saw Messi actually Dribble Nesta more than once to obtain a goal on the 4 games of last seasons CL.
Keita's goal still a mystery how it was attributed to Messi.
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shinigami99 wrote:Messi doesn't score =/= Nesta/Silva stopping Messi
Keita scoring =/= Messi scoring.
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Re: Which player will stop Messi?
Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Yes two times on dribble, in Pedro's and Iniesta's goals. Why do you even argue about something you have no knowledge or memory?Lord Hispano wrote:jiopsi wrote:Facts? I just showed how Messi beat Nesta on 4/7 goals, which I think is the most, 2 times with dribble and 2 times with pass.
2 times with Dribble, on Nesta? Keita is Messi all of a sudden.
I'm busting your myth Jiopsi.
I do have a memory and I never saw Messi actually Dribble Nesta more than once to obtain a goal on the 4 games of last seasons CL.
Keita's goal still a mystery how it was attributed to Messi.
With my maths, that's two.
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Igwe Mikel.
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there is no compeletely stopping, if i'm not mistaken when messi didnt score opposite defense got praise for it and its called they stopped messi.
but messi is not only scorer he has 3 assist against milan how they stopped him plus 1 penalty which he earned himself, and another penalty was given after his pass. i would be glad if teams stop messi like this
but messi is not only scorer he has 3 assist against milan how they stopped him plus 1 penalty which he earned himself, and another penalty was given after his pass. i would be glad if teams stop messi like this
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