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Post by Guiltybystander Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:51 pm

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iNFINITY9910 wrote:Corrupt or not, he is the best owner of a football club. Would you disagree with that as well?

Actually he is one of the worst. If not for his money, he would ve been out in a year.

1) Sacks good managers after wins, doesnt let them settle, ruins team potential? Check.
2) Wastes money, makes huge debts, than pays for them, because club itself cant? Check.
3) Bad, overpriced, unneeded transfers? Check.


He is poor mans Moratti. At least the latter knows a bit about football, still fails considerably though

I agree with this - he might be better than those ignorant Americans and mentally challenged Qatari oil sheiks who own clubs, but most clubs have better owners than der Roman, who indeed is a crook and made his billions in post-soviet anarchy Russia through maffia connections and exploiting and killing people.

Not that mister Bunga Bunga is any less of a felon, tbf.

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Post by spanky Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:52 pm

Seppuku wrote:At least Roman isn't a ruthless tyrant...Which can't be said about some of Barcelona's business "partners":

and in what way do we do business with them?
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:54 pm

Guiltybystander wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:Corrupt or not, he is the best owner of a football club. Would you disagree with that as well?

Actually he is one of the worst. If not for his money, he would ve been out in a year.

1) Sacks good managers after wins, doesnt let them settle, ruins team potential? Check.
2) Wastes money, makes huge debts, than pays for them, because club itself cant? Check.
3) Bad, overpriced, unneeded transfers? Check.


He is poor mans Moratti. At least the latter knows a bit about football, still fails considerably though

I agree with this - he might be better than those ignorant Americans and mentally challenged Qatari oil sheiks who own clubs, but most clubs have better owners than der Roman, who indeed is a crook and made his billions in post-soviet anarchy Russia through maffia connections and exploiting and killing people.

Not that mister Bunga Bunga is any less of a felon, tbf.

Moratti is a great owner, legit money, with his club through hard and good times, no scandals, he is a great owner.
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Post by Guiltybystander Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:55 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:
Guiltybystander wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:Corrupt or not, he is the best owner of a football club. Would you disagree with that as well?

Actually he is one of the worst. If not for his money, he would ve been out in a year.

1) Sacks good managers after wins, doesnt let them settle, ruins team potential? Check.
2) Wastes money, makes huge debts, than pays for them, because club itself cant? Check.
3) Bad, overpriced, unneeded transfers? Check.


He is poor mans Moratti. At least the latter knows a bit about football, still fails considerably though

I agree with this - he might be better than those ignorant Americans and mentally challenged Qatari oil sheiks who own clubs, but most clubs have better owners than der Roman, who indeed is a crook and made his billions in post-soviet anarchy Russia through maffia connections and exploiting and killing people.

Not that mister Bunga Bunga is any less of a felon, tbf.

Moratti is a great owner, legit money, with his club through hard and good times, no scandals, he is a great owner.

I agree! I called Abramovich a crook, not Moratti. Not much wrong with Moratti indeed.
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:57 pm

I know, I think we should all give credit to moratti and highlight his character as owner though. Bunga Bunga might have more trophies but he doesnt have that feel good factor going for him like Moratti.
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Post by Seppuku Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:10 pm

spanky489 wrote:
Seppuku wrote:At least Roman isn't a ruthless tyrant...Which can't be said about some of Barcelona's business "partners":

and in what way do we do business with them?

There are plenty of reports on the issue. Type in Uzbekistan and Barcelona on google.

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Post by LeSwagg James Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:14 am

Ever? Yes.. Soon? I don't know about that..
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Post by iNFINITY9910 Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:17 am

Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:Corrupt or not, he is the best owner of a football club. Would you disagree with that as well?

Actually he is one of the worst. If not for his money, he would ve been out in a year.

1) Sacks good managers after wins, doesnt let them settle, ruins team potential? Check.
2) Wastes money, makes huge debts, than pays for them, because club itself cant? Check.
3) Bad, overpriced, unneeded transfers? Check.


He is poor mans Moratti. At least the latter knows a bit about football, still fails considerably though

1) He demands success. And he has brought more than enough titles and cups to justify himself. I don't know why most people don't get this. CA was sacked because he didn't match the clubs ambition. By January most of the fans were against his way of football which kept the doors closed for the young lads. The club had a vision of bringing up youth from the academy. They said at the start of the season that 5 young lads would be promoted to the bench, but in the end CA had to loan out 4 of them, McEachran was not loaned because he is not big enough to go on loan. Why do you think we went to a very young manager who used the youth players effectively?

2) Wastes money... ok apart from Shevchenko, where else? Has he wasted the money to invest in a youth system that is starting to prosper now? He is the owner of the club, so he has the right to pay and care for the club. LOL, what do you want him to do? Take a loan from a bank?

3) Overpriced I would agree, but bad? Again apart from Sheva... ?
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Post by Wilson37 Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:11 am

Hopefully never we will have to face that situation...
Waiting for Abramovich to become bankrupt.. Lol..
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Post by iNFINITY9910 Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:26 am

We will probably win it before Arsenal

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Post by Albiceleste Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:43 am

iNFINITY9910 wrote:We will probably win it before Arsenal

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Post by Brigate Rossonere Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:21 am

I hope not

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Post by Grande_Milano Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:34 am

iNFINITY9910 wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:Corrupt or not, he is the best owner of a football club. Would you disagree with that as well?

Actually he is one of the worst. If not for his money, he would ve been out in a year.

1) Sacks good managers after wins, doesnt let them settle, ruins team potential? Check.
2) Wastes money, makes huge debts, than pays for them, because club itself cant? Check.
3) Bad, overpriced, unneeded transfers? Check.


He is poor mans Moratti. At least the latter knows a bit about football, still fails considerably though

1) He demands success. And he has brought more than enough titles and cups to justify himself. I don't know why most people don't get this. CA was sacked because he didn't match the clubs ambition. By January most of the fans were against his way of football which kept the doors closed for the young lads. The club had a vision of bringing up youth from the academy. They said at the start of the season that 5 young lads would be promoted to the bench, but in the end CA had to loan out 4 of them, McEachran was not loaned because he is not big enough to go on loan. Why do you think we went to a very young manager who used the youth players effectively?

2) Wastes money... ok apart from Shevchenko, where else? Has he wasted the money to invest in a youth system that is starting to prosper now? He is the owner of the club, so he has the right to pay and care for the club. LOL, what do you want him to do? Take a loan from a bank?

3) Overpriced I would agree, but bad? Again apart from Sheva... ?

1) Kakuta almost caused you ban from Europe. Escaped by inch.

2) Veron, Crespo, Torres, Deco, Thiago, Mutu (cocaine incident), Robben, etc, etc

3) See above.
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Post by Kick Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:19 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:Corrupt or not, he is the best owner of a football club. Would you disagree with that as well?

Actually he is one of the worst. If not for his money, he would ve been out in a year.

1) Sacks good managers after wins, doesnt let them settle, ruins team potential? Check.
2) Wastes money, makes huge debts, than pays for them, because club itself cant? Check.
3) Bad, overpriced, unneeded transfers? Check.


He is poor mans Moratti. At least the latter knows a bit about football, still fails considerably though

1) He demands success. And he has brought more than enough titles and cups to justify himself. I don't know why most people don't get this. CA was sacked because he didn't match the clubs ambition. By January most of the fans were against his way of football which kept the doors closed for the young lads. The club had a vision of bringing up youth from the academy. They said at the start of the season that 5 young lads would be promoted to the bench, but in the end CA had to loan out 4 of them, McEachran was not loaned because he is not big enough to go on loan. Why do you think we went to a very young manager who used the youth players effectively?

2) Wastes money... ok apart from Shevchenko, where else? Has he wasted the money to invest in a youth system that is starting to prosper now? He is the owner of the club, so he has the right to pay and care for the club. LOL, what do you want him to do? Take a loan from a bank?

3) Overpriced I would agree, but bad? Again apart from Sheva... ?

1) Kakuta almost caused you ban from Europe. Escaped by inch.

2) Veron, Crespo, Torres, Deco, Thiago, Mutu (cocaine incident), Robben, etc, etc

3) See above.

Robben!?!?!

You have got to be kidding, Robben is one of the greatest wingers we've had, how could he possibly be waste money?

We sold him for more than we bought him for. double the amount if you believe reports.
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Post by M99 Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:31 pm

Once Roman understands that winning titles in real life isn't as easy as FIFA 11, they will win it.
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Post by Abramovich Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:58 pm

kick mars wrote:

Robben!?!?!

You have got to be kidding, Robben is one of the greatest wingers we've had, how could he possibly be waste money?

We sold him for more than we bought him for. double the amount if you believe reports.

I wouldn't take that guy so seriously I think he has some mental issues, he is a poor deluded young kid don't fret :bball:
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Post by Grande_Milano Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:57 pm

kick mars wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:Corrupt or not, he is the best owner of a football club. Would you disagree with that as well?

Actually he is one of the worst. If not for his money, he would ve been out in a year.

1) Sacks good managers after wins, doesnt let them settle, ruins team potential? Check.
2) Wastes money, makes huge debts, than pays for them, because club itself cant? Check.
3) Bad, overpriced, unneeded transfers? Check.


He is poor mans Moratti. At least the latter knows a bit about football, still fails considerably though

1) He demands success. And he has brought more than enough titles and cups to justify himself. I don't know why most people don't get this. CA was sacked because he didn't match the clubs ambition. By January most of the fans were against his way of football which kept the doors closed for the young lads. The club had a vision of bringing up youth from the academy. They said at the start of the season that 5 young lads would be promoted to the bench, but in the end CA had to loan out 4 of them, McEachran was not loaned because he is not big enough to go on loan. Why do you think we went to a very young manager who used the youth players effectively?

2) Wastes money... ok apart from Shevchenko, where else? Has he wasted the money to invest in a youth system that is starting to prosper now? He is the owner of the club, so he has the right to pay and care for the club. LOL, what do you want him to do? Take a loan from a bank?

3) Overpriced I would agree, but bad? Again apart from Sheva... ?

1) Kakuta almost caused you ban from Europe. Escaped by inch.

2) Veron, Crespo, Torres, Deco, Thiago, Mutu (cocaine incident), Robben, etc, etc

3) See above.

Robben!?!?!

You have got to be kidding, Robben is one of the greatest wingers we've had, how could he possibly be waste money?

We sold him for more than we bought him for. double the amount if you believe reports.

He was injured all the time with you. Bayern and Real Robben>Chelsea Robben
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Post by Kick Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:59 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:
kick mars wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:Corrupt or not, he is the best owner of a football club. Would you disagree with that as well?

Actually he is one of the worst. If not for his money, he would ve been out in a year.

1) Sacks good managers after wins, doesnt let them settle, ruins team potential? Check.
2) Wastes money, makes huge debts, than pays for them, because club itself cant? Check.
3) Bad, overpriced, unneeded transfers? Check.


He is poor mans Moratti. At least the latter knows a bit about football, still fails considerably though

1) He demands success. And he has brought more than enough titles and cups to justify himself. I don't know why most people don't get this. CA was sacked because he didn't match the clubs ambition. By January most of the fans were against his way of football which kept the doors closed for the young lads. The club had a vision of bringing up youth from the academy. They said at the start of the season that 5 young lads would be promoted to the bench, but in the end CA had to loan out 4 of them, McEachran was not loaned because he is not big enough to go on loan. Why do you think we went to a very young manager who used the youth players effectively?

2) Wastes money... ok apart from Shevchenko, where else? Has he wasted the money to invest in a youth system that is starting to prosper now? He is the owner of the club, so he has the right to pay and care for the club. LOL, what do you want him to do? Take a loan from a bank?

3) Overpriced I would agree, but bad? Again apart from Sheva... ?

1) Kakuta almost caused you ban from Europe. Escaped by inch.

2) Veron, Crespo, Torres, Deco, Thiago, Mutu (cocaine incident), Robben, etc, etc

3) See above.

Robben!?!?!

You have got to be kidding, Robben is one of the greatest wingers we've had, how could he possibly be waste money?

We sold him for more than we bought him for. double the amount if you believe reports.

He was injured all the time with you. Bayern and Real Robben>Chelsea Robben

Do I need to highlight what No.2 was? Wasted money.

Did I not say Robben was sold for twice what we bought him for? Where is the wasted money?

Pretty sure a profit on an Injured player is not on any books wasted money.
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Post by Abramovich Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:44 pm

Robbens emergance in Jan debut season probably won us the title.
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Post by iNFINITY9910 Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:58 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:
iNFINITY9910 wrote:Corrupt or not, he is the best owner of a football club. Would you disagree with that as well?

Actually he is one of the worst. If not for his money, he would ve been out in a year.

1) Sacks good managers after wins, doesnt let them settle, ruins team potential? Check.
2) Wastes money, makes huge debts, than pays for them, because club itself cant? Check.
3) Bad, overpriced, unneeded transfers? Check.


He is poor mans Moratti. At least the latter knows a bit about football, still fails considerably though

1) He demands success. And he has brought more than enough titles and cups to justify himself. I don't know why most people don't get this. CA was sacked because he didn't match the clubs ambition. By January most of the fans were against his way of football which kept the doors closed for the young lads. The club had a vision of bringing up youth from the academy. They said at the start of the season that 5 young lads would be promoted to the bench, but in the end CA had to loan out 4 of them, McEachran was not loaned because he is not big enough to go on loan. Why do you think we went to a very young manager who used the youth players effectively?

2) Wastes money... ok apart from Shevchenko, where else? Has he wasted the money to invest in a youth system that is starting to prosper now? He is the owner of the club, so he has the right to pay and care for the club. LOL, what do you want him to do? Take a loan from a bank?

3) Overpriced I would agree, but bad? Again apart from Sheva... ?

1) Kakuta almost caused you ban from Europe. Escaped by inch.

2) Veron, Crespo, Torres, Deco, Thiago, Mutu (cocaine incident), Robben, etc, etc

3) See above.

okay mate I give up... escaped by an inch i see.. Heh! Your post show that your knowledge is so vast, i dont stand a chance with you... Smile No lol

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Post by wigglesworth Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:01 pm

Abramovich is a gangster and a thief. It would be disgusting to have him as an owner. Berlusconi is less of a criminal ffs.
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Post by jibers Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:05 pm

Not in my lifetime
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Post by Lord Awesome Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:10 pm

Both are criminals. Abramovich only looks evil cause he's Slavic. In onther words he's a little more cold hearted than Berlusconi, who's more of a partyboy.

They're both greedy, though.
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