Your players should have watched the way Wigan completely outplayed United on Wednesday. They are a very good team on form atm.

RED 80s. wrote:Your players should have watched the way Wigan completely outplayed United on Wednesday. They are a very good team on form atm.

they outplayed chelsea a few days before that as well....

lenear1030 wrote:

RED 80s. wrote:Your players should have watched the way Wigan completely outplayed United on Wednesday. They are a very good team on form atm.

they outplayed chelsea a few days before that as well....

Yep. Very unfortunate to lose that match. 2 huge errors from the linesman.

Team gets lots of praise for it's 'mentality'. Ok, but is this the same 'mentality' that sees us under-perform against QPR and Wigan?

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The defending for Wigan's goals was shambolic for a club in the Champions League for 15-odd years. The defensive replacements aren't good enough, either. Djourou IS NOT good enough for Arsenal Football Club. Santos CAN NOT defend.

Ramsey? Where do I start? How long can we say "he was injured for a year?" I sense another Denilson coming along. And another Eboue-booing for Ramsey. Crowd already on his back.

RVP? I'm worried. I thought he scores when he wants?! Genuinely playing below-par. 1 goal in 5 PL games (and that was a pen).

Gervinho and Walcott dreadful. Benayoun did ok, came close with 2 headers.

Chamberlain, 18 minutes.. really?

Song and Sagna - worst games for the club.

Thanks to disasters against QPR and Wigan, Chelsea is now a must-win (certainly a must-not lose). The joys of supporting Arsenal.

Wenger - "I told 4th official that Wigan would time-waste the whole game & get a yellow card with 3 mins to go. That's what happened."

Samuelj29060 wrote:Team gets lots of praise for it's 'mentality'. Ok, but is this the same 'mentality' that sees us under-perform against QPR and Wigan?

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The defending for Wigan's goals was shambolic for a club in the Champions League for 15-odd years. The defensive replacements aren't good enough, either. Djourou IS NOT good enough for Arsenal Football Club. Santos CAN NOT defend.

Ramsey? Where do I start? How long can we say "he was injured for a year?" I sense another Denilson coming along. And another Eboue-booing for Ramsey. Crowd already on his back.

RVP? I'm worried. I thought he scores when he wants?! Genuinely playing below-par. 1 goal in 5 PL games (and that was a pen).

Gervinho and Walcott dreadful. Benayoun did ok, came close with 2 headers.

Chamberlain, 18 minutes.. really?

Song and Sagna - worst games for the club.

Thanks to disasters against QPR and Wigan, Chelsea is now a must-win (certainly a must-not lose). The joys of supporting Arsenal.

Djorou is good enough as 4th choice CB.

Give Ramsey time. It took Rozza ages but hes finally back on form. And he's getting old.

Maybe RVP is tired. Not much rest for him atm.

Couldn't agree more on Gerv and Walcott. Walcott is starting to look like Arshavin tbh...

Chambo's a gun but he's gotta be protected. He's still very young. Although i do believe he shoulda got more time today.

When Sagna has a bad game, you know the whole team is playing s***.

It's gonna be tough be we can absolutely do it. Although no Arteta makes me worried.

I want my £50 back

Djourou good enough for 4th choice?

Given our injuries every single season, 4th choice basically = 25+ appearances.

I hope Djourou goes in the summer. Will actually be sad if he stays.

Whole team was pathetic, Ramsey while I'm still a fan has a lot of work to do and should be playing in the reserves till next pre-season.

We have really dug ourselves a hole now with Chelsea coming up, we need to get a result as we are not safely in top 4 yet.

How much did we miss him today?

Samuelj29060 wrote:Djourou good enough for 4th choice?

Given our injuries every single season, 4th choice basically = 25+ appearances.

I hope Djourou goes in the summer. Will actually be sad if he stays.

You know that we can't keep players similar to the quality of Koscielny and Vermaelen on the bench. Djorou is definetely good enough as 4th choice. Injuries or no injuries, players of high quality don't wanna play second or in this case fourth fiddle to others. Djorou does the job imo...

Djourou was actually good last night, Sagna was horrible which was a huge surprise. Maybe its fatigue.

The whole team played bad, apart from Benayoun and Rosicky. It was just a horrible game to watch, our players ran for their lifes but it didn't help. We gotta just give credit to Wigan. Moses was terrifying, and Szczesny didn't help at all on that second goal.

Apart from Benayoun and Rosicky all were shit, not just Ramsey and Walcott. van Persie, The Ox (looked lively but still), Song, Gervinho, Sagna and especially our favourite player Szczesny.

And Djourou was our best defender all night. Sagna was shit, Vermaelen defensively was shit and Santos was crap aswell.

And I mostly feel for Lex

But we all should know we're still 6 points (eventually 3 points) ahead of Spurs. And we can finish Chelsea next week, I know we make it hard for ourselves, if we won yesterday we could afford even a loss against Chelsea. If we beat Chelsea, I'll forget this.

My point is that Arsenal's injury crisis (which happen every single season) means squad players play a lot of games. Is Djourou good enough to play a lot of games? No.

sagna wasnt shit
ramsey was shit
walcott was average

these three make up the right side of arsenals team, ramsey was shit he could not defend going into other peoples places and forgetting his role was arteta one. he caused so many positional mistakes that led to attacks omg

ramsey the worst player in the history for arsenal. he doesnot deserve that red shirt. he should be sold to a championship club. the entire team suffers because of him. he fcks the entire mid field. arsenal lost because of him. arsenal dont need him. i hope he gets injured and never come back.

usman111 wrote:sagna wasnt shit
ramsey was shit
walcott was average

these three make up the right side of arsenals team, ramsey was shit he could not defend going into other peoples places and forgetting his role was arteta one. he caused so many positional mistakes that led to attacks omg

ramsey the worst player in the history for arsenal. he doesnot deserve that red shirt. he should be sold to a championship club. the entire team suffers because of him. he fcks the entire mid field. arsenal lost because of him. arsenal dont need him. i hope he gets injured and never come back.

Did you love him after the winning goal at United?

usman111 wrote:sagna wasnt shit
ramsey was shit
walcott was average

these three make up the right side of arsenals team, ramsey was shit he could not defend going into other peoples places and forgetting his role was arteta one. he caused so many positional mistakes that led to attacks omg

ramsey the worst player in the history for arsenal. he doesnot deserve that red shirt. he should be sold to a championship club. the entire team suffers because of him. he fcks the entire mid field. arsenal lost because of him. arsenal dont need him. i hope he gets injured and never come back.

As much as I dont like Ramsey, I never wish anything bad on him, Ramsey is not a starter and I would not sell him the only thing would benefits both side is if he send him on a loan.

The truth is next year Ramsey wont be getting much game time at Arsenal. Even though Ramsey plays like shit every game he tries hard but Walcott is another story, we should called Walcott, Casper from now on.

Casper with 11 goals and 12 assists

* Arsenal's record v bottom-half teams this season (35 points from 17 games) is the worst amongst the top six sides.

* Thomas Vermaelen is the top-scoring defender in the Premier League with six goals.

* André Santos had five of Arsenal's 23 shots v Wigan and none were on target.

http://bit.ly/IiWgjy

I really don't care how it ended last night 2bh ! All i want from Arsenal is to beat chelski .... Match of the SEASON Imo ! A MUST WIN.....UndisputEd.

If the season had started in February, Wigan would be in fifth place in the Premier League. :vagi:

Raptorgunner wrote:

usman111 wrote:sagna wasnt shit
ramsey was shit
walcott was average

these three make up the right side of arsenals team, ramsey was shit he could not defend going into other peoples places and forgetting his role was arteta one. he caused so many positional mistakes that led to attacks omg

ramsey the worst player in the history for arsenal. he doesnot deserve that red shirt. he should be sold to a championship club. the entire team suffers because of him. he fcks the entire mid field. arsenal lost because of him. arsenal dont need him. i hope he gets injured and never come back.

As much as I dont like Ramsey, I never wish anything bad on him, Ramsey is not a starter and I would not sell him the only thing would benefits both side is if he send him on a loan.

The truth is next year Ramsey wont be getting much game time at Arsenal. Even though Ramsey plays like shit every game he tries hard but Walcott is another story, we should called Walcott, Casper from now on.

You seem to only like to blame Walcott and Ramsey for the losses. I am an Arsenal Fan and I saw that nearly everyone on the team was playing like crap. Ramsey had to cover for Song when Song went forward... Santos played like crap. Sagna played like crap. The only people who didn't play like crap were basically Benyaoun and Rosicky. Scz should have read the ball better for those 2 goals he gave up.

Well said flick

As for Ox not playing, Wenger has a reason for him not playing.. Remember Wilshere? the same Wilshere who play all year last year? yea... He's still injured for the whole year.. Ox is still only 18 and still has a lot to learn.. We'll probably never see another Cesc in our team. Cesc is probably the only player ever that I've seen who has broken into the team at 16 and wasn't injured until like 23...