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Post by Doc Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:37 am

Because Real Madrid are not in need of selling Higuain, any club would be paying a premium for his services. And judging from the recent prices of forwards, 30 million Euros would certainly not be enough to buy out his contract.

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Post by S32TABLANCA Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:50 am

Higuain is definately not 30 million, more like 50 IMO. Maybe Soldado would be a better choice.
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Post by DeviAngel Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:53 am

You don't get my point I am not speaking of todays market and influence I am speaking for the real value in my eyes in my view but I would get Falcao over Higuain we need poacher more and tbh I think Falcao can outscore Higuain if he played in RM but I'm maybe wrong
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Post by Zealous Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:58 am

The real value in your eyes =/= The market value.

If you think you should sign Falcao then you are welcome to try Atleti would want more than 40 million for him. That is assuming they even want to sell him which is unlikely.

Same applies to Higuain. In any case if Pipita were put up for sale he would be the most expensive striker available. I guess it depends on whether or not you are serious about winning trophies. A striker like Higuain wins you games, lots of games.
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Post by DeviAngel Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:23 am

Zealous wrote:The real value in your eyes =/= The market value.

If you think you should sign Falcao then you are welcome to try Atleti would want more than 40 million for him. That is assuming they even want to sell him which is unlikely.

Same applies to Higuain. In any case if Pipita were put up for sale he would be the most expensive striker available. I guess it depends on whether or not you are serious about winning trophies. A striker like Higuain wins you games, lots of games.

Thats what I said in my post

Higuain is quality striker even thou sometimes misses some chances which happens to all players but Falcao is poacher clinical finisher thats why I mentioned him nothing more while Higuain I see him more as hybrid of SS and CF or in a 4-3-3 on the right side replacing Pepe not as poacher I may be wrong
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Post by S32TABLANCA Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:20 am

Some people will get mad at this, but Higuain is kinda a poacher TBH.
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Post by The Messiah Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:25 am

Higuain will of course make Juventus a better team but I don't see him taking them to the level everyone will want them to be.

Higuain can not score goals, they need Soldado, Falcoa, Rossi or Hulk.

and a good young back-up like Dumbia.

I can't wait to see Juventus in cpl next season, cpl is much more boring without Juve and Liverpool.
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Post by izzy Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:27 am

Idrisozet wrote:Higuain will of course make Juventus a better team but I don't see him taking them to the level everyone will want them to be.

Higuain can not score goals, they need Soldado, Falcoa, Rossi or Hulk.

and a good young back-up like Dumbia.

I can't wait to see Juventus in cpl next season, cpl is much more boring without Juve and Liverpool.

Really? :facepalm:
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Post by The Messiah Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:08 am

izzy wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:Higuain will of course make Juventus a better team but I don't see him taking them to the level everyone will want them to be.

Higuain can not score goals, they need Soldado, Falcoa, Rossi or Hulk.

and a good young back-up like Dumbia.

I can't wait to see Juventus in cpl next season, cpl is much more boring without Juve and Liverpool.

Really? :facepalm:

Not as much as other top striker, how many goals has he scored this season.

Higauin 22 club goals in 34 appearance.

Gomez 35 club goals in 36 appearance

Van Persie 32 club goals in 39 appearance

Huntelaar 40 goals in 39 appearance.

Messi 55 goals in 51 appearance

Ronaldo 49 goals in 45 appearance.

Juventus needs a player who can deliver like this guys in other to become one of the great.

Juventus could do with a better goal scorer, although Higuain could be sufficient to some extent.
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Post by izzy Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:12 am

Idrisozet wrote:
izzy wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:Higuain will of course make Juventus a better team but I don't see him taking them to the level everyone will want them to be.

Higuain can not score goals, they need Soldado, Falcoa, Rossi or Hulk.

and a good young back-up like Dumbia.

I can't wait to see Juventus in cpl next season, cpl is much more boring without Juve and Liverpool.

Really? :facepalm:

Not as much as other top striker, how many goals has he scored this season.

Higauin 22 club goals in 34 appearance.

Gomez 35 club goals in 36 appearance

Van Persie 32 club goals in 39 appearance

Huntelaar 40 goals in 39 appearance.

Messi 55 goals in 51 appearance

Ronaldo 49 goals in 45 appearance.

Juventus needs a player who can deliver like this guys in other to become one of the great.

Juventus could do with a better goal scorer, although Higuain could be sufficient to some extent.

How many Games has Higuain started?

22 goals is more than enough of what Juve need. Isn't their top scorer Matri like on 11 goals?

Take into account that the guys you mentioned start week in week out. Higgy doesn't which maked his numbers pretty damn good.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:24 am

Juve need a Quality SS ( Vucinic is not consistent enough) and a finisher ( Matri is not good enough) a LB and a Young, talented Regista to learn from Pirlo and come in for him when he needs rest, injured or suspended or even play alongside him if they choose to, id put in a cheeky bid for Sahin.

But i have been saying this for months its no secret what Juve need to be competitive in the CL and in Italy.
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Post by The Messiah Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:31 am

izzy wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:
izzy wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:Higuain will of course make Juventus a better team but I don't see him taking them to the level everyone will want them to be.

Higuain can not score goals, they need Soldado, Falcoa, Rossi or Hulk.

and a good young back-up like Dumbia.

I can't wait to see Juventus in cpl next season, cpl is much more boring without Juve and Liverpool.

Really? :facepalm:

Not as much as other top striker, how many goals has he scored this season.

Higauin 22 club goals in 34 appearance.

Gomez 35 club goals in 36 appearance

Van Persie 32 club goals in 39 appearance

Huntelaar 40 goals in 39 appearance.

Messi 55 goals in 51 appearance

Ronaldo 49 goals in 45 appearance.

Juventus needs a player who can deliver like this guys in other to become one of the great.

Juventus could do with a better goal scorer, although Higuain could be sufficient to some extent.

How many Games has Higuain started?

22 goals is more than enough of what Juve need. Isn't their top scorer Matri like on 11 goals?

Take into account that the guys you mentioned start week in week out. Higgy doesn't which maked his numbers pretty damn good.

Well from the way I understand it, if Higuain was that good then he will start every game.

Higuain is a good striker but I am only saying Juventus can do even do better.

No doubt, Higuain will be an improvement to Matri...

lulz for Matri how bad can it get, 10 club goals in 29 appearance and you are club top scorer.

even midfielders like Robben, Ribery, Muller and Kroos have more goals

Robben 13 goals in 24 appearance(mostly sub)

Ribery 14 goals, Kroos 7 goals, Muller 7.

Matri really needs to look at himself, no disrespect


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Post by Le Samourai Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:31 am

In LigaBBVA Gonzalo Higuain has a 34% chance of scoring every time he shoots. (Ronaldo 18%, RVP 20%, Benzema 21%, Messi 22%, Gomez 24%)

2011/12

22 goals 10 assists in 2109 minutes

Goal/Assist every 65.5 minutes.

Idrisozet wrote:

Higuain can not score goals, they need Soldado, Falcoa, Rossi or Hulk.

Seems like a completely legitimate theory to be honest. Thumbs up



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Post by paperbackwriter Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:52 am

Just :facepalm: at saying Higuain can't score goals when he's the most efficient striker in Europe when it comes to goals/shot ratio and goals/minutes ratio.

Only reason he's not a starter is because Benzema is even more efficient, second only to Messi, when it comes to goals+assists/minutes plus he fits our style better, exchanging positions with Ronaldo and so on. With Ronaldo as our main goalscoring threat, we need a striker who can do it all. Make plays, exchange 1-2s, drop deep and distribute, dribble and so on. Also, we're facing more compact defenses this season and Benzema is better in small spaces than Higuain.

Higuain would be a sure starter in any top team except Barcelona, Madrid and Bayern atm.
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Post by The Messiah Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:07 am

Higuain is a top striker but I don't really rate him as a typical goal scorer like Gomez, Hunteelar, Falcao, Rossi and Soldao.

Falcao, Soldado and Rossi, if surrounded by quality players like Higuain they will definitely score more goals.


Higuain has been in Madrid since 2007 and still can not make himself indispensable, but then again even Hunteelar was worse.

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Post by Albiceleste Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:16 am

Higuain can't score goals Laughing Glad I have him on my ignore list

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Post by Pedram Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:48 am

Saying Higuain can't score goals is like saying Messi can't dribble to save his life.

If one thing Higuain is special at it, it's his goalscoring instinct.
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