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Post by Abramovich Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:04 pm

Madrid fans are so pitful and spiteful, they become Barca's bitches so they must cling onto anything they can to insult others Sad

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Post by Babun Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:04 pm

BiasedMilanFan3 wrote:This is just a one off bad year for EPL teams

They'll be back next year
Next year:

They'll be back next year eco smile

The year after:

EPL wasn't storng in Europe anyways eco smile
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Post by leemhuis Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:05 pm

It usually take more than one year for cycle to turn opposite way. For now, La Liga is much on top, Serie A is improveng, Bundesliga stable, EPL downtrend.
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Post by BiasedMilanFan3 Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:06 pm

Immortal Babun wrote:
BiasedMilanFan3 wrote:This is just a one off bad year for EPL teams

They'll be back next year
Next year:

They'll be back next year eco smile

The year after:

They'll be back next year... I swear

The year after:


:vagi:
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Post by Sushi Master Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:09 pm

Damn, a lot of hate shaved up for the PL. The seasons were pretty much set from the start.

ManU = Decent squad, but still no midfield. Vidic injured and VDS retired means their defense is shit. Giggs and Scholes can't do everything.

Arsenal = No Fabregas replacement, Wilshere out for the season, squad not as good as before.

Chelsea = Wanted to play a possession battle against Satan. Don't have the players to play it well. Torres is shit.

City = Billion dollar squad, but 2 cent mentality and shit manager. Barry and Milner suck ass. Toure is overrated as hell.
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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:09 pm

sportsczy wrote:EPL is waaaay overrated. Problem is that there's a massive shortage of good English talent. The bridge between Cole, Lampard, Gerard, etc and the next batch hasn't been made. Until EPL can develop WC local talent... it will struggle to compete with the elite.

You want some talent?
Joe Hart
Jack Wilshere
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
Theo Walcott
Daniel Sturridge
Danny Welbeck
Tom Cleverley
Chris Smalling
Phil Jones

we are ok I think.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:10 pm

No one in england gives a flying f*ck we were supporting Napoli, Bilbao and Sporting ffs Laughing
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Post by punkfusion1992 Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:11 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:
sportsczy wrote:EPL is waaaay overrated. Problem is that there's a massive shortage of good English talent. The bridge between Cole, Lampard, Gerard, etc and the next batch hasn't been made. Until EPL can develop WC local talent... it will struggle to compete with the elite.

You want some tallent?
Jack Wilshere
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
Theo Walcott
Daniel Sturridge
Danny Welbeck
Tom Cleverley
Chris Smalling
Phil Jones

we are ok I think.
out of those
Sturridge, Chamberlain and Wilshere are the only good ones, Wilshere is the only player with real control of the ball
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Post by leemhuis Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:11 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:
sportsczy wrote:EPL is waaaay overrated. Problem is that there's a massive shortage of good English talent. The bridge between Cole, Lampard, Gerard, etc and the next batch hasn't been made. Until EPL can develop WC local talent... it will struggle to compete with the elite.

You want some tallent?
Jack Wilshere
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
Theo Walcott
Daniel Sturridge
Danny Welbeck
Tom Cleverley
Chris Smalling
Phil Jones

we are ok I think.

Who will they replace at Barca, Madrid, Bayern or Milan?
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Post by Lex Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:11 pm

City out. Lisbon :bow:
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:12 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:No one in england gives a flying f*ck we were supporting Napoli, Bilbao and Sporting ffs Laughing

Y U NO PREMFACE :vagi:


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Post by Turok_TTZ Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:12 pm

La Liga is strong this year. Today is a glorious day for La Liga.

La Liga>>> etc DEAL WITH IT.
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Post by Turok_TTZ Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:13 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:No one in england gives a flying f*ck we were supporting Napoli, Bilbao and Sporting ffs Laughing
:vagi: :vagi: :vagi:
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Post by REWB Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:13 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:
sportsczy wrote:EPL is waaaay overrated. Problem is that there's a massive shortage of good English talent. The bridge between Cole, Lampard, Gerard, etc and the next batch hasn't been made. Until EPL can develop WC local talent... it will struggle to compete with the elite.

You want some tallent?
Jack Wilshere
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
Theo Walcott
Daniel Sturridge
Danny Welbeck
Tom Cleverley
Chris Smalling
Phil Jones

we are ok I think.

tbh thats not as much talent as other countries have, i know what sport is talking about. England need to produce more talented players. the only players who have really proven to be really good talents on the European stage are wilshere, OX, sturridge and walcott, and thats just not enough.
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Post by Jay29 Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:16 pm

So does anyone actually have a legitimate reason to dislike a league? Because "their media overhype" and "their fans" are truly petty and pathetic reasons.

Football is all about cycles. This year has not been the year for Premier League teams, but you cannot mark a decline after one season when the teams in question have yet to be given the chance to improve and perform next season.

The idea that the Premier League is entering an era of mediocrity is far too premature.

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Post by Turok_TTZ Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:18 pm

I actually expect arsenal to improve. I dont expect the other three to do so however. Arsenal to be the only team to represent epl in cl next season. BELIEVE.
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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:20 pm

Turok_TTZ wrote:I actually expect arsenal to improve. I dont expect the other three to do so however. Arsenal to be the only team to represent epl in cl next season. BELIEVE.
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Post by REWB Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:21 pm

Turok_TTZ wrote:I actually expect arsenal to improve. I dont expect the other three to do so however. Arsenal to be the only team to represent epl in cl next season. BELIEVE.

lol so you dont think the likes of chelsea, man utd and mancity are going to strengthen? its as if they have ran out of money or something :facepalm:
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Post by DuringTheWar Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:25 pm

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out of those
Sturridge, Chamberlain and Wilshere are the only good ones, Wilshere is the only player with real control of the ball[/quote]

While chamberlain doesnt have wilshere-like technique, he still got better ball control than most european players.

If you want top class ball control then josh mceachran and ravel morrison could easily reach that standard, and it likely wont be long before a wonderkid from aston villa will be dazzling fans with amazing technique
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Post by Pedram Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:29 pm

Some Madrid fans here :facepalm:
Gloating like they have accomplished something.
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Post by S Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:30 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:So does anyone actually have a legitimate reason to dislike a league? Because "their media overhype" and "their fans" are truly petty and pathetic reasons.

Football is all about cycles. This year has not been the year for Premier League teams, but you cannot mark a decline after one season when the teams in question have yet to be given the chance to improve and perform next season.

The idea that the Premier League is entering an era of mediocrity is far too premature.

Oh really ?

And those are the same petty and pathetic reasons which fans hate a certain club.I am not talking about you but lets not be hypocrites here shall we..I have seen Spurs being hated cheaply here and you from your own mouth said its just banter.I guess this is banter too ?.

I dislike it because i dont generally enjoy watching it and the brand of football they play .Some of the players and their respective team are gloated by media/experts/pundits and fans to such an extent that even Cruyff and Pele wouldnt even dreamt of playing such football and their players likewise.It is ofcourse a petty reason but what is not petty ?honestly

I am just having a good laugh of how Epl teams are getting dominated and outplayed by inferior teams when it is the supposed best league in the world with some of the best teams.that is all.
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Post by urbaNRoots Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:36 pm

rofl some inferiorliga fans are acting like people care, most of us make jokes about EPL teams failing :facepalm:

Grow up for god's sake.
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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:47 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:rofl some inferiorliga fans are acting like people care, most of us make jokes about EPL teams failing :facepalm:

Grow up for god's sake.

LOL, They dont us Arsenal fan wanted all these team out lol.
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Post by Jay29 Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:04 pm

Surag wrote:Oh really ?

And those are the same petty and pathetic reasons which fans hate a certain club.I am not talking about you but lets not be hypocrites here shall we..I have seen Spurs being hated cheaply here and you from your own mouth said its just banter.I guess this is banter too ?.

So because everyone uses those reasons to hate on clubs, that makes them legitimate? I don't agree with that line of reasoning. And at no point have I ever dismissed or even tried to justify the dislike for Spurs as "just banter".

I dislike it because i dont generally enjoy watching it and the brand of football they play

Good for you. That's a legitimate reason to dislike something.

Some of the players and their respective team are gloated by media/experts/pundits and fans to such an extent that even Cruyff and Pele wouldnt even dreamt of playing such football and their players likewise.It is ofcourse a petty reason but what is not petty ?honestly

But this is not legitimate. Somebody hypes someone or something up as good. So what? Dislike the person that's doing the hyping, not the thing or person he's trying to hype. Judge the clubs and players on their own merits that you can garner by watching them, not what someone paid to say those sort of things say.

I am just having a good laugh of how Epl teams are getting dominated and outplayed by inferior teams when it is the supposed best league in the world with some of the best teams.that is all.

I have no problem with a few jokes on the the Premier League's behalf. I can differentiate between banter and animosity. But when that line is crossed and people start spewing things like "overhyped" and "annoying fans" as justification for their dislike, I can't take them seriously.

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Post by The Verminator Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:28 pm

Turok_TTZ wrote:
Lex wrote:I liked it more when Madrid were being smacked around by Barcelona year in, year out and their fan's stayed under their rocks No
I liked it more when arsenal was a more competitive team that actually challenged... where is that team now? (ftr arsenal is the only team i consider worth noting in the epl)

Madrid and probably Bayern as well as Milan are the only ones who can challenge Barca currently. no current epl team has a chance against Barca.
EPL league leaders lost real bad to a team that Madrid wud spank home and away. Mancity is losing to a team who ive no doubt Madrid and farca wud deliver a 5+ goal fest.

a 6th place team in spain > 1st place in epl? lol do the math. La liga is better.
Bundesliga, Ligue 1, La Liga are on the rise. EPL in decline and has been for quite awhile now.

and for those who are wondering. when i say in decline. i say when it comes to europe. otherwise wudnt make sense.

I can't for the life of me understand ewhy people use this logic. No offense but seriously dude. By your logic, Hercules>Barce. Newcastle beat Yanited 3-0. I guess that makes them the better team eh?
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Post by Abramovich Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:37 am

El Pipita wrote:Some Madrid fans here :facepalm:
Gloating like they have accomplished something.

Are you the only humble Madrid fan here? bounce
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