Re: Champions League [Round 16 | 1st leg]: Bayern Leverkusen Vs Barcelona

by Guest Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:38 am

BarcaKizz wrote:
Crimson wrote:Any good bets you Barcelona fans see for this game?

Not really. Our form of late doesnt really justify any certainties or wise bets, particularly as we are away and ive seen that it has been snowing in Germany.

If the draw is a good price...maybe look at that. I hope we win though. If Tello is really long odds to score he might be an option...

Draw is paying 4.20 so I put abit on that already

Tello is at 2.63 to score, seems alot of people have the same idea and thus have pushed his odds down

Derdiyok is 4.20 to score so might put some money on that as well

Messi is 1.50 to score O.O lol

by FalcaoPunch Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:48 am

Hey crimson where do you bet at?

by Guest Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:53 am

ColoJunior wrote:Hey crimson where do you bet at?

usually sportsbet for Australian betting

but I do alot of betting on BWIN too

Depends on the odds I can get and whats better

by BarcaKizz Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:29 am

Yeah crim... Normally betting prices on barca and madrid games are horrible in Australia, as are Messi/ ronaldo to score bets because everyone just assumes it'll happen. However, sometimes you can get a decent bet on lesser known teams because Aussies don't know sh*t about la liga.

Tello is $2.60 on sports ey??? Wtf... Surprised people even know who he is...

Might put a multi on this round...

by Albiceleste Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:50 am

Derdiyok is out injured I believe

by The Sanchez Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:37 am

He is. Thiago should start as Im sure Busquests won't start. Cesc will be great coming off the bench as he is always a threat for some reason.
Expecting Tello/Cuenca to play instead of Cesc (if he plays) on that left wing

by rwo power Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:59 am

Albiceleste wrote:Derdiyok is out injured I believe

He is out, just like Ballack.

BTW, as reporters insisted he'd give a prediction, Bayer coach Robin Dutt replied with gallows humour: "I'd be satisfied with an assured 5:0." XD
(He then qualified he'd be satisfied with a result that at least gives Bayer a little hope for the return match)

by The Sanchez Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:34 am

My Side to start:
Valdes
Alves-Mascherano-Pique-Abidal
Xavi-Thaigo-Inestia
Sanchez-Messi-Tello
Probabs Starting Line Up:
Valdes
Alves-Pique-Puyol-Abidal
Xavi-Busquests-Inestia
Sanchez-Messi-Cesc

by billionmillion Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:19 am

paxtonpale wrote:My Side to start:
Valdes
Alves-Mascherano-Pique-Abidal
Xavi-Thaigo-Inestia
Sanchez-Messi-Tello
Probabs Starting Line Up:
Valdes
Alves-Pique-Puyol-Abidal
Xavi-Busquests-Inestia
Sanchez-Messi-Cesc

you are under drugs dude Smile

by billy_gr Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:35 am

Right now the squad seems to be in bad shape overall.
I would really want the to focus all their energy in the CL where we actually have chances.
I really hope for a boss performance, mainly to boost our moral

by billionmillion Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 am

Barca can focus in 6 competition and can be the best. The barca that we saw in last weeks were not real full strength barca. theres no need for worries. let injured players return and give 1 week rest to team then barca again will start to own everybody

by free_cat Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:34 am

alexjanosik wrote:
free_cat wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:I just want one thing.
For Fabregas to take his rightful place on the bench.
Enough of the useless midfield imposter and lets have Messi back to his best.

I'm slightly critic with Cesc as you know, but I feel this is quite baseless. Messi was utter crap vs. Osasuna and Cesc was not playing. He has been pretty much meh since the turn of year, and I don't think it has nothing to do with Cesc. If you actually see him play, he seems slower, with less spark and takes weird decisions. And also his finishing has gone to the dogs. All of this, has nothing to do with Cesc being on the pitch, as with or without Cesc, he finds space, has chances and gets reasonably involved.

I would go with our best 11 for this match:

VV
Alves - Machete - Pique - Abidal
Xavi - Busquets - Iniesta
Pedro - Messi - Alexis

If Pedro is still in terrible form as he was vs. Osasuna I would play Cuenca or Tello instead. If Busquets can't play, I would play Thiago in his place. If Iniesta can't play, or has very low fitness, then Cesc.

Stats dont lie.

They can lie. Ok, Messi scores less when Cesc is playing. But at the begining of the season sure it wasn't like this. And if you actually see Messi play with or without Cesc, currently, it's not like Cesc is bumping in his path to avoid him scoring, like Ibra did. Messi is not himself, Cesc or no Cesc. Laks spark, his finishing is bad, etc. Things that has nothing to do with Cesc playing. I mean, if Messi is in a one on one situation, he doesn't miss because Cesc is also playing. That can't be a cause. Same with him being that slow.

by The Sanchez Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:45 am

I thought this Messi-Cesc combo was good because they could 'read each others mind' and make a run and score. Messi is not playing well like everyone else. End of story!

by Khaled Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:39 am

Xavi had again calf problems during Sunday's training session. The staff will later today decide if he can play tonight. [md] :S :S

by The Franchise Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:41 am

Albiceleste wrote:Derdiyok is out injured I believe

So is Sam, who was great (best player) in the group stages. Also Barnetta who is a very good player. Renato is only just back too.

They are crippled.

by Hamdyman Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:33 pm

I want to see CHARACTER! :vagi:

by Albiceleste Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:41 pm

The Franchise wrote:
Albiceleste wrote:Derdiyok is out injured I believe

So is Sam, who was great (best player) in the group stages. Also Barnetta who is a very good player. Renato is only just back too.

They are crippled.

wow, thats a shame, unfortunate for Leverkusen.

by The Franchise Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:21 pm

Valdes, Alves, Puyol, Mascherano, Abidal, Busquets, Iniesta, Cesc, Adriano, Messi and Alexis.

Xavi injured, but where they hell is Thiago.

Puyol :facepalm:

Bench: Pinto, Pedro, Sergi Roberto, Thiago, Bartra, Cuenca, Dos Santos

No Tello nor Pique.

by eelir Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:40 pm

What? We play against giants and we are leaving our own on bench?

I know Pep knows what he is doing but i will be disappointed if we don't win this game.

by The Franchise Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:37 pm

Alexis scores in an otherwise subpar half.

We couldnt penetrate the middle at all, we rarely got the ball around the box. Everything was midfield and wings.

Nice finish from Alexis, great effort to win the first header and then as always a great run.

Messi still not himself and him not laying it off to Abidal capped off what was a bad first half. Great pass for Alexis but thats not enough for me.

Nice to see Cesc playing deeper and not running away, it helped us. But he is no Xavi or even Thiago in terms of evading challanges and proceeding forward.

Iniesta and Busquets look rusty, Iniesta looks like he doesnt want to break into a sprint. Non crisp passes and suspect touches.

They are in worst form then us and it looks like too teams short of confidence and flow right now.

by TrezeGent Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:40 pm

Leverkusen's defense is just too organized.

Probably the best you guys have faced this season.

by Pedram Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:44 pm

juvefan4life wrote:Leverkusen's defense is just too organized.

Probably the best you guys have faced this season.

Sevilla's defense was more organized.

by The Franchise Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:45 pm

No, this defence is nothing special. They are doing a decent job, but our slow tempo, lack of precision passing, lack of Messi being Messi and more importantly no midfielder who is willing to dribble is the reason we arent breaking through.