Re: How highly do you rate Mourinho as a tactician?

by izzy Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:00 pm

Potential wrote:Mazzarri is so underrated, he took over Sampdoria and brought CL football. he left; it got relegated. He took over Napoli and brought CL football; beating Milan, Inter, MC, Juventus and Villareal in the process. Not to mention he plays sexy football.

TACTICS bro.

TACTICS. IS HE BETTER AT TACTICS?

by The Franchise Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:02 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
The Franchise wrote:

Uh huh..

him getting all that space has nothing to do with tactics...

him getting space after Ronaldo had missed the header is obviously tactics by Pep.... i bet he told Marcelo to jog back as well eh??

godly tactics right there

Wow.....just wow...

I really cant tell if serious or trolling...either way, be better.

by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:03 pm

Benitez so good he makes Potential's list twice :bow:

by The Franchise Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:04 pm

Ordinho10 wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Ordinho10 wrote:
Who is this guy?

Are you talking about the very same Alves who marked out Ronaldo in the Super Cup?

The Alves who not only crossed the ball for that Cesc goal but two other great balls which led to chances, especially the header from Xavi?

The Alves who started the move which led to Iniesta's great pass and Pedro's neat finish against Madrid in the CL 2nd leg?

Mate get out of here, your not a good troll and you'll ever be one no matter how hard you try.

Where's Feverpitch and Giancarlo when you need them to show these kids how trolling is done?

freeing up alves=/=marking ronaldo

Iker starts moves sometimes

what good chances lol... he did squat all ffs

Mother of God.....

Dani and Co., how do you manage to keep your cool with these type of people around?

Have to realise that those are the vast minority...thankfully.

by guest7 Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:05 pm

Mou is top 3 imo. Only Pep is better than him as far as I know.

But then again, it does help his players are able to do these roles that excellent. But due to Pep winning the "tactical battle" multiple times you can't doubt his tactical mind.

by halamadrid2 Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:07 pm

all you Barca fans obviously know how shite Alves is and youre trying to cover up for him by clutching at broken straws smfh

by Gil Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:10 pm

The Franchise wrote:If your ignore Capello and his job for England then thats a legit call.

Milan were excellent tactically, and Roma even more so.

Minus his England stint, he is far superior to Mou for me.

No. No. No. No. No.

Aside from his first spell at Milan he's never really excelled anywhere as a manager. Even at Milan he was lucky to inherit Sacchi's squad and the backing of the first real "sugar daddy" in football anyway.

He's plays the most negative and uninspiring brand of football out of all the other "top managers" out there. In terms of tactics he's still stuck in the 90s ffs.

Don't even get me started about the fecking World Cup. He played 442 when every other major nation played a variation of 433/4231 - he's a stupid dinosaur.

by SaintJoe Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:10 pm

For me Trap is number 1.

Then I'm not really sure, Mou at Porto did extremely well in multiple games and at Inter as well (didn't see many Chelsea games), so I voted Top 5.

by Potential Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:11 pm

izzy26 wrote:
Potential wrote:Mazzarri is so underrated, he took over Sampdoria and brought CL football. he left; it got relegated. He took over Napoli and brought CL football; beating Milan, Inter, MC, Juventus and Villareal in the process. Not to mention he plays sexy football.

TACTICS bro.

TACTICS. IS HE BETTER AT TACTICS?

Err, yes. and I'd like for Napoli to meet Madrid in UCL knockout stages to emphasize his superiority.

by EarlyPrototype Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:11 pm

Gil wrote:
The Franchise wrote:If your ignore Capello and his job for England then thats a legit call.

Milan were excellent tactically, and Roma even more so.

Minus his England stint, he is far superior to Mou for me.

Don't even get me started about the fecking World Cup. He played 442 when every other major nation played a variation of 433/4231

That was just LOL worthy tbh.

by izzy Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:13 pm

Potential wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
Potential wrote:Mazzarri is so underrated, he took over Sampdoria and brought CL football. he left; it got relegated. He took over Napoli and brought CL football; beating Milan, Inter, MC, Juventus and Villareal in the process. Not to mention he plays sexy football.

TACTICS bro.

TACTICS. IS HE BETTER AT TACTICS?

Err, yes. and I'd like for Napoli to meet Madrid in UCL knockout stages to emphasize his superiority.

How is he tactically better?
Answer the question.

by Doc Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:14 pm

Dani answered it. He plays 3 at the back. What more evidence you need man?!

by Gil Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:15 pm

Potential wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
Potential wrote:Mazzarri is so underrated, he took over Sampdoria and brought CL football. he left; it got relegated. He took over Napoli and brought CL football; beating Milan, Inter, MC, Juventus and Villareal in the process. Not to mention he plays sexy football.

TACTICS bro.

TACTICS. IS HE BETTER AT TACTICS?

Err, yes. and I'd like for Napoli to meet Madrid in UCL knockout stages to emphasize his superiority.

by The Franchise Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:15 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:all you Barca fans obviously know how shite Alves is and youre trying to cover up for him by clutching at broken straws smfh

So trolling them, please stop or someone will end up taking your warning level down.

by The Franchise Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:15 pm

Gil wrote:
The Franchise wrote:If your ignore Capello and his job for England then thats a legit call.

Milan were excellent tactically, and Roma even more so.

Minus his England stint, he is far superior to Mou for me.
No. No. No. No. No.

Aside from his first spell at Milan he's never really excelled anywhere as a manager. Even at Milan he was lucky to inherit Sacchi's squad and the backing of the first real "sugar daddy" in football anyway.

He's plays the most negative and uninspiring brand of football out of all the other "top managers" out there. In terms of tactics he's still stuck in the 90s ffs.

Don't even get me started about the fecking World Cup. He played 442 when every other major nation played a variation of 433/4231 - he's a stupid dinosaur.

Roma?

3412? That was anything but negative and uninspring football.

Cant agree with you on this one.

His Milan and Roma teams were both fantastic and tactically fantastic, Milan were stronger as a team and Roma were even better tactically.

His own stain is the England team, his best days may be past him thats true. But Milan and Roma, both, great jobs.

by Arquitecto Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 pm

Gil wrote:
The Franchise wrote:If your ignore Capello and his job for England then thats a legit call.

Milan were excellent tactically, and Roma even more so.

Minus his England stint, he is far superior to Mou for me.
No. No. No. No. No.

Aside from his first spell at Milan he's never really excelled anywhere as a manager. Even at Milan he was lucky to inherit Sacchi's squad and the backing of the first real "sugar daddy" in football anyway.

He's plays the most negative and uninspiring brand of football out of all the other "top managers" out there. In terms of tactics he's still stuck in the 90s ffs.

Don't even get me started about the fecking World Cup. He played 442 when every other major nation played a variation of 433/4231 - he's a stupid dinosaur.

Gil, you are the one who feels Ancelotti is the most overrated manager of all time. I still respect the hell outta your footballing knowledge and follow your posts.

But your wrong here.

You are forgetting both his Serie A's with Juve, his brilliant one with Roma, His 2 La Ligas with Madrid, and I don't even have to mention how revered his tactics were at Milan let alone all of them.

His legacy cannot be touched

by Doc Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:19 pm

Talk about Fabio Capello, a random Arquitecto appears...

by halamadrid2 Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:19 pm

The Franchise wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:all you Barca fans obviously know how shite Alves is and youre trying to cover up for him by clutching at broken straws smfh

So trolling them, please stop or someone will end up taking your warning level down.

trolling??? i am telling the truth ffs... not my fault you still have your shades on

are you the same guy who took sports warning level down

ohh i should be careful here... smfh

by baresi Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:20 pm

izzy26 wrote:
Potential wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
Potential wrote:Mazzarri is so underrated, he took over Sampdoria and brought CL football. he left; it got relegated. He took over Napoli and brought CL football; beating Milan, Inter, MC, Juventus and Villareal in the process. Not to mention he plays sexy football.

TACTICS bro.

TACTICS. IS HE BETTER AT TACTICS?

Err, yes. and I'd like for Napoli to meet Madrid in UCL knockout stages to emphasize his superiority.

How is he tactically better?
Answer the question.

why is he not better? I am not saying Mazz is better but you obviously insist Mou is better so why?

by Arquitecto Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:22 pm

Doc wrote:Talk about Fabio Capello, a random Arquitecto appears...

An Arquitecto posts, followed by a random Doc to patronize.

by izzy Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:23 pm

baresi wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
Potential wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
Potential wrote:Mazzarri is so underrated, he took over Sampdoria and brought CL football. he left; it got relegated. He took over Napoli and brought CL football; beating Milan, Inter, MC, Juventus and Villareal in the process. Not to mention he plays sexy football.

TACTICS bro.

TACTICS. IS HE BETTER AT TACTICS?

Err, yes. and I'd like for Napoli to meet Madrid in UCL knockout stages to emphasize his superiority.

How is he tactically better?
Answer the question.
why is he not better? I am not saying Mazz is better but you obviously insist Mou is better so why?

I never said Mou was better, but he came out and made an outlandish statement, is it wrong for me to hear his opinion on this topic?

by The Franchise Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:25 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:all you Barca fans obviously know how shite Alves is and youre trying to cover up for him by clutching at broken straws smfh

So trolling them, please stop or someone will end up taking your warning level down.

trolling??? i am telling the truth ffs... not my fault you still have your shades on

are you the same guy who took sports warning level down

ohh i should be careful here... smfh

Excuse me, I cant tell because your posts are just that retarded.

by Doc Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:25 pm

Arquitecto wrote:An Arquitecto posts, followed by a random Doc to patronize.

Not patronise, just know your stance on Capello and actually felt you would have shown up for some reason when I read Gil's rather unjust opinion on Capello...

by Gil Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:26 pm

Never saw much of that Roma side apart from highlights etc so fair enough. One question I'll ask is why was his success with Roma so short lived though? If that Roma side were so fantastic tactically and played such a pleasant style of football as you put it wouldn't he have won far more than just a single League title with them?

Will never agree with that Milan "invincibles" side though. Sacchi was the one who laid the groundwork for the brand of football they played and he could basically handpick the best footballers in the World at the time. He managed Baggio, Weah, Maldini, Desailly, Baresi, Gullit, van Basten, Rijkaard, Donadoni, Di Canio, Savicevic etc ffs.

by halamadrid2 Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:27 pm

The Franchise wrote:
Excuse me, I cant tell because your posts are just that retarded.

well excuse me for not knowing what a great psychologist you are Rolling Eyes

again your clutching at broken straws mate

its like me saying Ronaldo has been awesome in his clasicos because he has scored some and missed some great chances

at least tell me youre defending him because you support barca ffs

by Gil Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:30 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
Gil wrote:
The Franchise wrote:If your ignore Capello and his job for England then thats a legit call.

Milan were excellent tactically, and Roma even more so.

Minus his England stint, he is far superior to Mou for me.
No. No. No. No. No.

Aside from his first spell at Milan he's never really excelled anywhere as a manager. Even at Milan he was lucky to inherit Sacchi's squad and the backing of the first real "sugar daddy" in football anyway.

He's plays the most negative and uninspiring brand of football out of all the other "top managers" out there. In terms of tactics he's still stuck in the 90s ffs.

Don't even get me started about the fecking World Cup. He played 442 when every other major nation played a variation of 433/4231 - he's a stupid dinosaur.

Gil, you are the one who feels Ancelotti is the most overrated manager of all time. I still respect the hell outta your footballing knowledge and follow your posts.

But your wrong here.

You are forgetting both his Serie A's with Juve, his brilliant one with Roma, His 2 La Ligas with Madrid, and I don't even have to mention how revered his tactics were at Milan let alone all of them.

His legacy cannot be touched

I've previously agreed with you that Ancelotti is a brilliant manager tactically but he had far too many faults to be rated as highly as he was.

Never seen of footage of Capello's 90's Madrid side. The 06-07 La Liga title was a fluke though and I can think even the most blinkered Madrid fan would agree with that.

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