Does Penaldo deserve to be second best player?

deadrave wrote:who talked about xaviestas? obviously some1 delivered the balls to him.. his TEAMMATES! messi's hatricks for argentina? waiting for an answer mate.. ?

billionmillion wrote:

El Pipita wrote:Yeah but you talk like if scoring penalty is easy. it's not like Messi is doing it better than him.

so you think if messi got 9 penalties he would miss 8 of them. great logic

and the point here is not scoring penalties. there are ton of great penalty takers in the world. Hakan Sukur missed only 3 penalties out of 52. But was he second best player?

paperbackwriter wrote:I love how some cules loves to use stats when they prove their point but lambast them if they are used to analyze any player who are beyond statistical analysis.

Ronaldo have more assists than Xavi, Fabregas And Iniesta this season. He also have more key passes per game than all of them except Xavi (who has 2.2 just as Ronaldo). He have more accurate through balls than them all in average, with a good margin.

By all statistical accounts he's the better playmaker compared with Cesc, Xavi and Iniesta.

Now stats don't sound like such a good argument do they?

ijomer wrote:Ronaldo 2011 for Portugal (most games played in Euro Qualifiers) : 7 Goals in 9 Appearances

Missi (without xaviesta/alves) 2011 for Argentina (most goals in Copa America): 4 Goals in 13 matches

billionmillion wrote:Paperbookwriter because without stats Ronaldo is nothing :shisha:

i can not find another thing in ronaldo to analyze (we can analyze only his stats)

deadrave wrote:im still waiting for a hatrick with argentina from the "best" player of the world.

its simple he is the best player on the world when playing for barcelona but he is an average to good player when playing for another team -> argentina . as far as im concerned argentina fans are mad on him for underperforming :lol!:

paperbackwriter wrote:

billionmillion wrote:Paperbookwriter because without stats Ronaldo is nothing :shisha:

i can not find another thing in ronaldo to analyze (we can analyze only his stats)

Ok go ahead and analyze his amazing playmaking stats that outperform Xavi, Cesc and Iniesta then... :shisha:

billionmillion wrote:

deadrave wrote:im still waiting for a hatrick with argentina from the "best" player of the world.

its simple he is the best player on the world when playing for barcelona but he is an average to good player when playing for another team -> argentina . as far as im concerned argentina fans are mad on him for underperforming :lol!:

He is always argentina's best player. he is more than stats and he played as a midfielder for argentina. he has 13 assists in 10 games for NT

but penaldo always overshadowed by nani and others he scores tap-ins when his team wins 4-0

ijomer wrote:OT: First of all, Scoring every penalty in 3-4 years in a row is NOT easy, we have seen the bests miss it.

Secondly, Why the F*** do teams need to foul in the box and get the penalty in first place? Today's fouls on Kaka and Ozil for example were so damn stupid... so really who's fault is it?

Again, A team CHOOSES the best penalty taker in the team to take them during the match, if arsenal gets penalty, obviously RVP steps up, in case of Man U, it will be rooney and so on... players dont choose! coach does.

and he just recently scored a good goal against barcelona ffs, and not to mention, the past year he has scored Goals against: Lyon, Ajax, Tottenham, Milan, Denmark, Valencia, Barcelona, brace against Bosnia and Denmark and Cyprus,

ALSO he had 15 assists last season for madrid, and 8 this season so far... and a handful for National Team.


Ronaldo has also recently started to Press more, and is tracking back excellently. Anyone who watches his matches recently sees how much he passes.

He is the Fastest Footballer off the ball, and is right now top 2 in FKs. he has exceptional heading skills, and is a perfect modern day footballer.

billionmillion wrote:

paperbackwriter wrote:

billionmillion wrote:Paperbookwriter because without stats Ronaldo is nothing :shisha:

i can not find another thing in ronaldo to analyze (we can analyze only his stats)

Ok go ahead and analyze his amazing playmaking stats that outperform Xavi, Cesc and Iniesta then... :shisha:

if i analyze i will see that he passed the ball when theres nobody and luckily somebody scored goal. i dont need to talk about his playmaking because everybody knows he is the worst passer in the team's attack. why to analyze and waste my time?

billionmillion wrote:

deadrave wrote:im still waiting for a hatrick with argentina from the "best" player of the world.

its simple he is the best player on the world when playing for barcelona but he is an average to good player when playing for another team -> argentina . as far as im concerned argentina fans are mad on him for underperforming :lol!:

He is always argentina's best player. he is more than stats and he played as a midfielder for argentina. he has 13 assists in 10 games for NT

but penaldo always overshadowed by nani and others he scores tap-ins when his team wins 4-0

paperbackwriter wrote:

billionmillion wrote:

paperbackwriter wrote:

billionmillion wrote:Paperbookwriter because without stats Ronaldo is nothing :shisha:

i can not find another thing in ronaldo to analyze (we can analyze only his stats)

Ok go ahead and analyze his amazing playmaking stats that outperform Xavi, Cesc and Iniesta then... :shisha:

if i analyze i will see that he passed the ball when theres nobody and luckily somebody scored goal. i dont need to talk about his playmaking because everybody knows he is the worst passer in the team's attack. why to analyze and waste my time?

Ronaldo 50 % accurate through balls.
Messi 34 % accurate through balls.
Cesc 34 % accurate through balls.
Xavi 29 % accurate through balls.
Iniesta 24% accurate through balls.