Which team has the ability to outplay Barca?

by Onyx Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:19 am

Which team has the ability to outplay Barca?

by Lex Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:20 am

Swansea

I'm not joking

by aleumdance Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:21 am

Lex wrote:Swansea

I'm not joking

HE IS NOT LYING

by che Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:21 am

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:21 am

Every Eastern European team does it on a regular basis, it's not that hard, all it takes is confidence that they're beatable and the discipline to pull it off.

by EarlyPrototype Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:23 am

Out play? as in more chances? more possession?

a bit vague imo.

More possession? Well Real Madrid is the only team to do it once ever since Guardiola took over and that was in a super cup match so I don't think anyone tbh.

More chances? any of the top 5 in the world.

by aleumdance Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:25 am

to be serious..

if Barcelona plays any top team from Bolivia , Ecuador or Peru

They would lose

Libertadores fans know what I'm talking about

oh and another team that can take Barcelona to school now

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by Harmonica Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:27 am

EarlyPrototype wrote:More possession? Well Real Madrid is the only team to do it once ever since Guardiola took over and that was in a super cup match so I don't think anyone tbh.

Madrid didn't outposses Barca, it was 48-52 for Barca in the whole match as I remember.

by Ganso Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:28 am

aleumdance wrote:to be serious..

if Barcelona plays any top team from Bolivia , Ecuador or Peru

They would lose

Libertadores fans know what I'm talking about

oh and another team that can take Barcelona to school now

by Le Samourai Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:30 am

Arsenal.................

by EarlyPrototype Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:30 am

jiopsi wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:More possession? Well Real Madrid is the only team to do it once ever since Guardiola took over and that was in a super cup match so I don't think anyone tbh.
Madrid didn't outposses Barca, it was 48-52 for Barca in the whole match as I remember.

Ok I think it was the first half where that happened and it was still the first time. As I said I don't think any team can have more possession than them.

by che Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:31 am

we had more possession than barcelona away in the first half last season Laughing

by Swanhends Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:31 am

Im not sure whether Swansea would get straight smacked in the mouth or whether they could actually give them a run of it...would be a fantastic match to watch though

When Swansea is in the zone its just Shocked

I really didnt even think they looked at their top level against Arsenal

by Khaled Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:36 am

In Guardiola's Era, NO TEAM had more possession than Barca, according to OptaSports [216matches].

Real Betis (4-2) & Valencia (2-1).. the only teams that outplaye Barca in the furst 45minutes at Camp Nou since 08/09.

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am

EarlyPrototype wrote:More possession? Well Real Madrid is the only team to do it once ever since Guardiola took over and that was in a super cup match so I don't think anyone tbh.

That's actually not true.

by EarlyPrototype Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:41 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:More possession? Well Real Madrid is the only team to do it once ever since Guardiola took over and that was in a super cup match so I don't think anyone tbh.

That's actually not true.

I know Jiopsi beat you too it. It must have been the first half I was thinking of.

by RealGunner Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:46 am

you can beat barcelona, but you can't outplay them. Not till xavi is at barca anyways.

by VivaStPauli Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:49 am

Every team with a decent midfield that doesn't know that it's supposed to lose has a decent chance. Real and Bayern both have midfields that could win it for them, sadly Real have already been traumatized and Bayern don't get that chance too often, and hire a sh*t coach every two years.

by la bestia negra Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:50 am

VivaStPauli wrote:Every team with a decent midfield that doesn't know that it's supposed to lose has a decent chance. Real and Bayern both have midfields that could win it for them, sadly Real have already been traumatized and Bayern don't get that chance too often, and hire a sh*t coach every two years.

jupp really that bad???

by _LMG_10_ Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:00 am

Valencia
Espanyol
Real Betis
Villarreal (on their day)

None of europe's top sides currently know how to play against Barca effectively. They don't get enough practice against barca. Madrid do, but they forget the basics because of the intense atmosphere during clasicos.

I would say Arsenal, but in 4 showings against Barca, they only played well once. The atmosphere and pressure gets to them as well.

Definately not Inter. I saw some people knee jerking about Inter today because they defeated Milan.

The thing is, parking the bus is NOT the way to go against Barca. This myth has been busted. It worked ONE time, due to many reasons, and it was a 2 legged affair don't forget.

It's been shown time and time again that to beat barca, you gotta take them head on. I would say tactics and mentality play equally important roles.

by VivaStPauli Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:00 am

No, but LvG kind of was, before him Klinsmann was horrible and so on. They fired Magath even though he was decent, they should've kept Hitzfeld forever anyway and so on.

Who knows how long they'll keep Don Jupp, probably gonna fire him and replace him with Armin Veh or some other nimrod.

I'm saying Bayern often got the players, but seldom the coach, to really outplay a top team.

by Shotta Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:22 am

probably gonna fire him and replace him with Armin Veh or some other nimrod.

LOL!!! What a joke. I vote for a long term coach like Fink

by VivaStPauli Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:27 am

That's my point, the Bayern board don't do long term, or else they would've kept Hitzfeld forever.

by Shotta Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:51 am

That's true

by REWB Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:20 am

_LMG_10_ wrote:Valencia
Espanyol
Real Betis
Villarreal (on their day)

None of europe's top sides currently know how to play against Barca effectively. They don't get enough practice against barca. Madrid do, but they forget the basics because of the intense atmosphere during clasicos.

I would say Arsenal, but in 4 showings against Barca, they only played well once. The atmosphere and pressure gets to them as well.

Definately not Inter. I saw some people knee jerking about Inter today because they defeated Milan.

The thing is, parking the bus is NOT the way to go against Barca. This myth has been busted. It worked ONE time, due to many reasons, and it was a 2 legged affair don't forget.

It's been shown time and time again that to beat barca, you gotta take them head on. I would say tactics and mentality play equally important roles.

have to agree with this post

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