Re: Nuri Sahin - Borussia Dortmund #18

by the xcx Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:46 pm

Sushi Master wrote:
The xcx wrote:
highburied wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
highburied wrote:In short: Another talented wasted in Madrid.

How do you know?

How do I know what?

Madrid has a reputation of treating players like sh*t.
Not everyone is fit for Madrid..Pedro Leon, huntelaar so on.
Sneijder, Robben, Cambiasso, Samuel, Eto'o and so on?

Your saying that every talented player is ready for every club or league? Jog on son.

by hrealmadrid Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:47 pm

Khedira is out for one month so he will be utilized effectively in the near future. We bought him for depth and long term effectiveness, not to immediately slot into the starting 11.

by Swanhends Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:49 pm

There is no spot for him as long as Alonso is healthy....not sure why he was bought in the first place unless they are planning on getting rid of Alonso in the summer

by the xcx Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:53 pm

bhends wrote:There is no spot for him as long as Alonso is healthy....not sure why he was bought in the first place unless they are planning on getting rid of Alonso in the summer

4-3-3, or use him as a rotation player. Watever works best.

by halamadrid2 Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:55 pm

english_jewel wrote:Damn he's already 23...the last thing he needs is to be not playing regularly

This is a bit like Callejon, who is 24, but is under-used.

For their age these guys should had broken into the starting 11 and playing continuously, because if they don't what are they going to show for their prime years, which aren't far away?

Or why not at least loan them when you know they aren't going to feature??

Either that or Madrid should sell them so that their careers aren't ruined.

Not surprise though, Mourinho only likes to deal with ready made stars or buy top class players (not too sure why Madrid seemed to have changed their policy last summer market).

firstly Callejon isnt under-used

secondly Callejon wasnt supposed to be starting

thirdly Sahin was a Mou buy

by halamadrid2 Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:56 pm

hrealmadrid wrote:Khedira is out for one month so he will be utilized effectively in the near future. We bought him for depth and long term effectiveness, not to immediately slot into the starting 11.

knowing Mou he would probably play Coentrao there

by the xcx Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:57 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
english_jewel wrote:Damn he's already 23...the last thing he needs is to be not playing regularly

This is a bit like Callejon, who is 24, but is under-used.

For their age these guys should had broken into the starting 11 and playing continuously, because if they don't what are they going to show for their prime years, which aren't far away?

Or why not at least loan them when you know they aren't going to feature??

Either that or Madrid should sell them so that their careers aren't ruined.

Not surprise though, Mourinho only likes to deal with ready made stars or buy top class players (not too sure why Madrid seemed to have changed their policy last summer market).

firstly Callejon isnt under-used

secondly Callejon wasnt supposed to be starting

thirdly Sahin was a Mou buy

Callejon was a Mou buy too btw, and every madridista knows how good he fits to Mous system.

by halamadrid2 Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:58 pm

i know but Callejon is playing so ididnt need to put that in

by Onyx Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:00 pm

bhends wrote:There is no spot for him as long as Alonso is healthy....not sure why he was bought in the first place unless they are planning on getting rid of Alonso in the summer

He can play next to Alonso.

by Highburied Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:01 pm

mtfootball wrote:
bhends wrote:There is no spot for him as long as Alonso is healthy....not sure why he was bought in the first place unless they are planning on getting rid of Alonso in the summer
He can play next to Alonso.

Can he?

Mourinho doesnt think so.

by Sushi Master Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:02 pm

Is the reason Özil is deployed deeper because of Sahin not being fit? Because that's exactly the position Sahin plays.

4-3-3 with Alonso-Sahin-Khedira would be extremely sexy. I thought that was the plan but I haven't seen it in action yet.

by EarlyPrototype Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:02 pm

highburied wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
highburied wrote:In short: Another talented wasted in Madrid.

How do you know?

How do I know what?

Madrid has a reputation of treating players like sh*t.

Benzema, Higuain, Marcelo, Ozil, Khedira, Ramos, Di Maria, Varane (so far), Casillias.

by Gil Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:02 pm

Wasted his career IMO.

by the xcx Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:04 pm

Gil wrote:Wasted his career IMO.

What about that 50M flop? :lol!:

by halamadrid2 Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:06 pm

a chelsea fan talking about wasting someones career smfh

what team does Lukaku play for.... the guy was followed by all top teams dont even know where he is probably with Bebe somewhere

by The Messiah Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:07 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:yh eh got 90 mins against Ponferradina

if he doesnt fit Mous plans... why did Mou buy him

Same reason why he bought Quaresma

by S Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:07 pm

Unbelievable.Even Chelsea's reserves team are multi-millionaires. Laughing

by EarlyPrototype Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:08 pm

Sahin will come good. Unless he is sold before given a chance lol.

by halamadrid2 Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:11 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:yh eh got 90 mins against Ponferradina

if he doesnt fit Mous plans... why did Mou buy him

Same reason why he bought Quaresma

Quaresma wasnt voted the best player in his league

i would compare Quaresma to Pedro Leon

by Gil Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:16 pm

Lol @ the bitter reactions from the Mehdrid fans. No shame in admitting it's true. Laughing

The xcx wrote:
Gil wrote:Wasted his career IMO.
What about that 50M flop? :lol!:

The current World Cup and European Champion £50m Flop? Laughing

Massive difference between a player who's past his best flopping at a big club and a talent like Sahin who's currently in his peak not even getting games.

halamadrid2 wrote:a chelsea fan talking about wasting someones career smfh

what team does Lukaku play for.... the guy was followed by all top teams dont even know where he is probably with Bebe somewhere

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Lukaku is 18 ffs. He was clearly bought for the future not the present.

Still a raw talent.

by the xcx Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:16 pm

Lukaku who was linked with many clubs such as R.Madrid, is playing as a reserve player in Chelsea...SMHHHHH.
Not even fit for bench?

by the xcx Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:18 pm

Gil wrote:Lol @ the bitter reactions from the Mehdrid fans. No shame in admitting it's true.

The xcx wrote:
Gil wrote:Wasted his career IMO.
What about that 50M flop? :lol!:

The current World Cup and European Champion £50m Flop?

Massive difference between a player who's past his best flopping at a big club and a talent like Sahin who's currently in his peak not even getting games.

halamadrid2 wrote:a chelsea fan talking about wasting someones career smfh

what team does Lukaku play for.... the guy was followed by all top teams dont even know where he is probably with Bebe somewhere
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Lukaku is 18 ffs. He was clearly bought for the future not the present.

Still a raw talent.

He didint contribute shit in World Cup, he was played because VDB felt pity on him..I saw him in euros and tbh he was meh in there, any decent striker would have done better in his shoes.

by halamadrid2 Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:21 pm

Gil wrote:
Lukaku is 18 ffs. He was clearly bought for the future not the present.

Still a raw talent.

Last time i checked Romeu isnt alot older

and Varane is 18 as well

Lukaku was followed by every top club, you get him he plays for one/acouple of game and you just throw him down to your youth like that

by Adit Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:21 pm

Some how Real madrid players should be able to perform despite coming back from long injury in december Laughing

by guest7 Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:25 pm

Why the kneejerk reactions

Talk when a full season has happened lmao

He was injured for 9 months, you just can't be put in a game like this

Regarding Sushi, yes, there were rumours at the beginning that we wanted to start playing a 4-3-3, but Sahin has been injured and Özil is still adapting. That's why I also think Lass is playing so much becouse he is in Mourinhos plan (a destroyer behind 2 CMs)

by Gil Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:28 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Gil wrote:
Lukaku is 18 ffs. He was clearly bought for the future not the present.

Still a raw talent.

Last time i checked Romeu isnt alot older

and Varane is 18 as well

Lukaku was followed by every top club, you get him he plays for one/acouple of game and you just throw him down to your youth like that

Young players develop at a different rate.

Lukaku isn't good enough to be a starter for us atm despite his form in the Belgian League (which is probably the equivalent of the Championship). Even in the Pro League he was very inconsistent, it's just simply unrealistic to expect him to be a starter at Chelsea so soon when Drogba, Torres and Sturridge are ahead of him in a team that only plays with one striker.

Romeu comes from the best academy in the World, Varane was a starter for a Ligue 1 side.

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