Cesc Fabregas: If I have to leave Barcelona, I will go back to Arsenal

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Post by Onyx Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:36 pm

He said 'never say never' in terms of a return to Arsenal.

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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:46 pm

Zanetti have stayed with Inter for 11 years winning only win trophy, and never left despite being apporached by several teams.

Totti is the same with Roma, and ADP and Buffon and Nedvad all staying with Juve after their fall.

I don't care what he was for Arsenal, a truley loyal player will NOT force a move to another team. He is just trying to appease the anger of Arsenal fans because he was not man enough to clearly say what he wants.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:19 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:Zanetti have stayed with Inter for 11 years winning only win trophy, and never left despite being apporached by several teams.

Totti is the same with Roma, and ADP and Buffon and Nedvad all staying with Juve after their fall.

I don't care what he was for Arsenal, a truley loyal player will NOT force a move to another team. He is just trying to appease the anger of Arsenal fans because he was not man enough to clearly say what he wants.

This might sound mean, but who cares about being loyal?

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Post by RedOranje Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:25 pm

english_jewel wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:Zanetti have stayed with Inter for 11 years winning only win trophy, and never left despite being apporached by several teams.

Totti is the same with Roma, and ADP and Buffon and Nedvad all staying with Juve after their fall.

I don't care what he was for Arsenal, a truley loyal player will NOT force a move to another team. He is just trying to appease the anger of Arsenal fans because he was not man enough to clearly say what he wants.

This might sound mean, but who cares about being loyal?
A great deal of fans still do, actually.
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Post by Omniscient Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:34 pm

Fans should learn to empathize with players.

If you were a top player in the climax of your career, playing for a garbage team that aren't likely to win anything, would you stay or move on?

Arsenal fans are so juvenile. Thank Cesc for the years of wonderful service and the hefty transfer fee he got you, instead of bitching about it and making snide remarks about Fabregas.

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Post by RedOranje Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:40 pm

Omniscient wrote:Fans should learn to empathize with players.

If you were a top player in the climax of your career, playing for a garbage team that aren't likely to win anything, would you stay or move on?

Arsenal fans are so juvenile. Thank Cesc for the years of wonderful service and the hefty transfer fee he got you, instead of bitching about it and making snide remarks about Fabregas.
Well first and foremost that doesn't apply to Cesc, so it's a bit of a ridiculous question.

Second, if I was already getting paid 100+k a week I'd stay. No matter what the players say, they tend to leave for more money as much as trophy chances.
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Post by Omniscient Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:43 pm

RedOranje wrote:
Omniscient wrote:Fans should learn to empathize with players.

If you were a top player in the climax of your career, playing for a garbage team that aren't likely to win anything, would you stay or move on?

Arsenal fans are so juvenile. Thank Cesc for the years of wonderful service and the hefty transfer fee he got you, instead of bitching about it and making snide remarks about Fabregas.
Well first and foremost that doesn't apply to Cesc, so it's a bit of a ridiculous question.

Second, if I was already getting paid 100+k a week I'd stay. No matter what the players say, they tend to leave for more money as much as trophy chances.

Cesc took a 1m/year pay cut to move to Barcelona.

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Post by RedOranje Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:44 pm

Omniscient wrote:
RedOranje wrote:
Omniscient wrote:Fans should learn to empathize with players.

If you were a top player in the climax of your career, playing for a garbage team that aren't likely to win anything, would you stay or move on?

Arsenal fans are so juvenile. Thank Cesc for the years of wonderful service and the hefty transfer fee he got you, instead of bitching about it and making snide remarks about Fabregas.
Well first and foremost that doesn't apply to Cesc, so it's a bit of a ridiculous question.

Second, if I was already getting paid 100+k a week I'd stay. No matter what the players say, they tend to leave for more money as much as trophy chances.

Cesc took a 1m/year pay cut to move to Barcelona.
Hooray for reading comprehension.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:45 pm

Omniscient wrote:Fans should learn to empathize with players.

If you were a top player in the climax of your career, playing for a garbage team that aren't likely to win anything, would you stay or move on?

Arsenal fans are so juvenile. Thank Cesc for the years of wonderful service and the hefty transfer fee he got you, instead of bitching about it and making snide remarks about Fabregas.

Lol what are you on about? Almost every Arsenal fan, appreciate Fabregas for what he did in his Arsenal days, and most Arsenal fans don't bitch about him leaving, you clearly mixed it up with Nasri.
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Post by Omniscient Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:50 pm

RedOranje wrote:
Omniscient wrote:
RedOranje wrote:
Omniscient wrote:Fans should learn to empathize with players.

If you were a top player in the climax of your career, playing for a garbage team that aren't likely to win anything, would you stay or move on?

Arsenal fans are so juvenile. Thank Cesc for the years of wonderful service and the hefty transfer fee he got you, instead of bitching about it and making snide remarks about Fabregas.
Well first and foremost that doesn't apply to Cesc, so it's a bit of a ridiculous question.

Second, if I was already getting paid 100+k a week I'd stay. No matter what the players say, they tend to leave for more money as much as trophy chances.

Cesc took a 1m/year pay cut to move to Barcelona.
Hooray for reading comprehension.
We're in a thread about Cesc, and you replied to my post regarding Cesc.

...Who exactly are you talking about, if not Fabregas?

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Post by aleumdance Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:53 pm

@ omiscent

you call arsenal garbage

but you cheer for a team that got relegated to Argentine Second division?

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Post by RedOranje Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:55 pm

Omniscient wrote:
RedOranje wrote:
Omniscient wrote:
RedOranje wrote:
Omniscient wrote:Fans should learn to empathize with players.

If you were a top player in the climax of your career, playing for a garbage team that aren't likely to win anything, would you stay or move on?

Arsenal fans are so juvenile. Thank Cesc for the years of wonderful service and the hefty transfer fee he got you, instead of bitching about it and making snide remarks about Fabregas.
Well first and foremost that doesn't apply to Cesc, so it's a bit of a ridiculous question.

Second, if I was already getting paid 100+k a week I'd stay. No matter what the players say, they tend to leave for more money as much as trophy chances.

Cesc took a 1m/year pay cut to move to Barcelona.
Hooray for reading comprehension.
We're in a thread about Cesc, and you replied to my post regarding Cesc.

...Who exactly are you talking about, if not Fabregas?
You asked a question about players in general, I answered it in general.

I also addressed the part about Cesc... which you chose to ignore.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:02 pm

RedOranje wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:Zanetti have stayed with Inter for 11 years winning only win trophy, and never left despite being apporached by several teams.

Totti is the same with Roma, and ADP and Buffon and Nedvad all staying with Juve after their fall.

I don't care what he was for Arsenal, a truley loyal player will NOT force a move to another team. He is just trying to appease the anger of Arsenal fans because he was not man enough to clearly say what he wants.

This might sound mean, but who cares about being loyal?
A great deal of fans still do, actually.

Of course the fans do. Why won't they? A top player is leaving their club.

I meant in terms of the player. The player is an employee and he's going to join the club that offers the most. Why should they care about loyalty?

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Post by RedOranje Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:36 pm

Because they care about the fans? Or their hometown clubs? Or they have a core set of beliefs they were raised with that included loyalty?

You're argument seems to imply that you believe no-one should care about showing loyalty if there is profit to be gained...
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Post by RealGunner Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:00 pm

Omniscient wrote:Fans should learn to empathize with players.

If you were a top player in the climax of your career, playing for a garbage team that aren't likely to win anything, would you stay or move on?

Arsenal fans are so juvenile. Thank Cesc for the years of wonderful service and the hefty transfer fee he got you, instead of bitching about it and making snide remarks about Fabregas.

Sorry ?
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Post by The Messiah Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:15 pm

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Post by Raptorgunner Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:15 pm

Omniscient wrote:Fans should learn to empathize with players.

If you were a top player in the climax of your career, playing for a garbage team that aren't likely to win anything, would you stay or move on?

Arsenal fans are so juvenile. Thank Cesc for the years of wonderful service and the hefty transfer fee he got you, instead of bitching about it and making snide remarks about Fabregas.

LOL Garbage team? who the *bleep* is Cesc, no player is bigger than Arsenal. No one is bitching about Cesc leaving. Where the hell have you been, where did you read about us bitching?. All of us wished him well and we moved on.
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Post by barca 2011 Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:23 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:Time for Wilshere to do a Xavi to unsettle Cesc Cool
Time for Cesc to do a Xavi to unsettle Wilshere.
There we go!
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Post by julias Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:25 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:Zanetti have stayed with Inter for 11 years winning only win trophy, and never left despite being apporached by several teams.

Totti is the same with Roma, and ADP and Buffon and Nedvad all staying with Juve after their fall.

I don't care what he was for Arsenal, a truley loyal player will NOT force a move to another team. He is just trying to appease the anger of Arsenal fans because he was not man enough to clearly say what he wants.

all those players you listed bar one are Italians playing for the Italian clubs that they love I'm not too sure if the same would apply if Totti had moved to Liverpool and Roma came calling
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Post by matpol Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:52 pm



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Post by REWB Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:46 am

@ Omniscient why do you think arsenal is a garbage club?, define what a garbage club means to you because im interested in reading about why you think this.

#oh and btw i knew your still reading this thread...i want a response
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Post by kiranr Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:15 am


Arsenal fans should not expect loyalty from players considering the policy Wenger has followed for years and the not so graceful exits of players in the past.
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Post by Lex Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:29 am

Silly me, expecting a shred of loyalty from players who we plucked from obscurity and turned into stars Rolling Eyes
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Post by kiranr Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:47 am


Firstly, if they are talented players, then they would have gotten a chance in top flight football. Although, i do agree Arsenal give them the chance to compete with the very best on a level footing.

Secondly, when the club does not show an ounce of loyalty to players who are past their peak, then why should the players show any loyalty to Arsenal? They know what to expect when they turn 29 or 30. So dont blame them for trying to move when they find what they perceive to be better opportunities.
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