The New Mesut Özil

babun1024 wrote:

sportsczy wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:It's important because everyone has a pull a little, share the load of work to make it even and balanced. It's interesting, it's one of the reason Di maria is so valuable to mou, because he makes up for the pressing the other guys arent doing at the moment. Overtime, it wont be needed if everyone is contributing the same.

I want everyone to take part, including Ozil, i am not a big fan of having specialists in my team.

Says someone who wants us to buy M'Vila I hate specialists as well

hey, cant blame me for weighting the + and - . we are linked to him in a more serious way than caughoffside, so it's worth talking about it.

Thing is, complete all around mifielders are something of a rarity, specially if they can also play DM. More often than not, they are fashioned by managers themselves.

discussion can give hindsight about the player, and whether or ot he has potential to improve the offensive contribution. M'vila has terrific vision and passing range going for him, and he is smart.

Blablabla, I don't want a DM who can't play B2B or with limited passing...

So why do you like Khedira then? He's a limited DM and a limited B2B. Basically nothing special at anything...

That's my point. If you want to replace him then give me someone better I said it to nick and others numerous of times

who is better Babun?

izzy26 wrote:Sorry for going OT:

Is Mtfootball a double agent? A Barca troll?

No, he's got his own idea of how we should play and sticks to it 100% each group and society needs one of mtfootballs

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

sportsczy wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:It's important because everyone has a pull a little, share the load of work to make it even and balanced. It's interesting, it's one of the reason Di maria is so valuable to mou, because he makes up for the pressing the other guys arent doing at the moment. Overtime, it wont be needed if everyone is contributing the same.

I want everyone to take part, including Ozil, i am not a big fan of having specialists in my team.

Says someone who wants us to buy M'Vila I hate specialists as well

hey, cant blame me for weighting the + and - . we are linked to him in a more serious way than caughoffside, so it's worth talking about it.

Thing is, complete all around mifielders are something of a rarity, specially if they can also play DM. More often than not, they are fashioned by managers themselves.

discussion can give hindsight about the player, and whether or ot he has potential to improve the offensive contribution. M'vila has terrific vision and passing range going for him, and he is smart.

Blablabla, I don't want a DM who can't play B2B or with limited passing...

So why do you like Khedira then? He's a limited DM and a limited B2B. Basically nothing special at anything...

That's my point. If you want to replace him then give me someone better I said it to nick and others numerous of times

who is better Babun?

I want someone like Vidal if you want me to be precise

babun1024 wrote:

izzy26 wrote:Sorry for going OT:

Is Mtfootball a double agent? A Barca troll?

No, he's got his own idea of how we should play and sticks to it 100% each group and society needs one of mtfootballs

Apparently, according to daneq he is. WTH?

Doc wrote:

babun1024 wrote:He run the midfield for Germany If the defence wasn't shambolic in a 3-4-3 system Germany would've won 0-3. He caused a goal and was generally sound
I don't get the thread either, he is not out of form anymore He just plays deeper for Germany and RM this season

He does play deeper, that is for sure. Defense shambolic? I remember seeing Babstuber and Hummels as CB's, can't remember the full backs. Think one was Aggo (or something). Never thought Babstuber was any good and Hummels is still pretty good so what was the cause of the shitty showing?

Low played Träsch who plays and is pronounced as trash on the right BAD-stuber played really bad and left Hummels exposed on every counter. The overall system was 3-4-3 which Low didn't even practice in training he just wanted the boys to try it out

izzy26 wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

izzy26 wrote:Sorry for going OT:

Is Mtfootball a double agent? A Barca troll?

No, he's got his own idea of how we should play and sticks to it 100% each group and society needs one of mtfootballs

Apparently, according to daneq he is. WTH?

Who is daneq? MT>>> Daneq MT, Adit, me and some others are 'tacticans' from the Real Madrid camp. MT wants us to play more possession oriented

babun1024 wrote:


I want someone like Vidal if you want me to be precise

yeah but who?

I was expecting to read Kroos

Seriously tho, Doc's chick in his profile has an ass that was born to sit on my face.

#justsayin

Ozil is fine lol.

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Seriously tho, Doc's chick in his profile has an ass that was born to sit on my face.

#justsayin

Ozil is fine lol.

Do you have a youtube account? If yeah, you'll get to see something very interesting...

There's no such thing as a midfielder who excels at everything. Xabi, Piggy and Pirlo are about as close as it gets and they each have their own weaknesses. So you want a mid who can develop into perhaps one of the greats (young) and who already excels at several aspects (defensive portion for example) WHILE showing the ability to add everything else. There are only two of those available right now. One is Javi Martinez and the other is M'Vila. Vidal is not for sale.

And remember, M'Vila just turned 21. The other two are 23 and 24 respectively and entering into their primes while M'Vila is just starting to scratch the surface of his potential.

babun1024 wrote:

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Seriously tho, Doc's chick in his profile has an ass that was born to sit on my face.

#justsayin

Ozil is fine lol.

Do you have a youtube account? If yeah, you'll get to see something very interesting...

Does this have anything to do with your gif thing lol?

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Seriously tho, Doc's chick in his profile has an ass that was born to sit on my face.

#justsayin

Ozil is fine lol.

Do you have a youtube account? If yeah, you'll get to see something very interesting...

Does this have anything to do with your gif thing lol?

How did you know?

sportsczy wrote:There's no such thing as a midfielder who excels at everything. Xabi, Piggy and Pirlo are about as close as it gets and they each have their own weaknesses. So you want a mid who can develop into perhaps one of the greats (young) and who already excels at several aspects (defensive portion for example) WHILE showing the ability to add everything else. There are only two of those available right now. One is Javi Martinez and the other is M'Vila. Vidal is not for sale.

And remember, M'Vila just turned 21. The other two are 23 and 24 respectively and entering into their primes while M'Vila is just starting to scratch the surface of his potential.

I want a defensive CM who can pass M'Vila, you can't classify him as passer I watched his outing for France, he's certainly a DM

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

babun1024 wrote:


I want someone like Vidal if you want me to be precise

yeah but who?

I was expecting to read Kroos

Kroos is CM->CAM and a very offensive one

Now, without joking or soft trolling (Montolivo), if it were up to me, I'd buy Hummels and transform him into an anchorman CM/DM

babun1024 wrote:
How did you know?

Reading thread's and not responding unless theres a possible of trolling is how i roll

In other words i saw your thread and walked away

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

babun1024 wrote:
How did you know?

Reading thread's and not responding unless theres a possible of trolling is how i roll

In other words i saw your thread and walked away

I won't let you see it now!
By the way, Lex was in awe, he calls me Babs now
P.S. how trollable am I from the scale 1-10 (->) ?

You watched him with ALOU DIARRA as his midfield partner ffs. That's like Lass being your midfield partner, except that Lass is better than Diarra right now. Diarra is a pure DM... cannot do anything else. The kid had nowhere to go with the ball when he had it.

I know you understand the game better than this babun. First, you come up with Montolivo and now this. Pick up your game dude.

sportsczy wrote:You watched him with ALOU DIARRA as his midfield partner ffs. That's like Lass being your midfield partner, except that Lass is better than Diarra right now. Diarra is a pure DM... cannot do anything else. The kid had nowhere to go with the ball when he had it.

I know you understand the game better than this babun. First, you come up with Montolivo and now this. Pick up your game dude.

I said my true option. I'd transform Hummels into anchorman The others don't satisfy me fully. The Italian players were semi joke directed at Giovanni
I'm very sceptical of midfielder from EPL and Serie A in general,you could guess why

Italian mids are shit atm. EPL mids... the best are Spanish lol. The best creative mids come from Spain. The best defensive mids come from France. The best combo mids come from Germany. Just how it is right now.

babun1024 wrote:
Kroos is CM->CAM and a very offensive one

Now, without joking or soft trolling (Montolivo), if it were up to me, I'd buy Hummels and transform him into an anchorman CM/DM

what makes you think that Hummels will be good in attack? if so, we might as well buy M'vila, they have similar vision and passing skills, but one is a natural mid already

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

babun1024 wrote:
Kroos is CM->CAM and a very offensive one

Now, without joking or soft trolling (Montolivo), if it were up to me, I'd buy Hummels and transform him into an anchorman CM/DM

what makes you think that Hummels will be good in attack? if so, we might as well buy M'vila, they have similar vision and passing skills, but one is a natural mid already

M'Villa similar to Hummels? Jog on...
Hummels can win the ball, dribble, PASS and keep it under pressure in all three dimensions His positioning sense is exceptional. I don't get why Low doesn't play him in DM position he practivally plays midfield for BVB since Sahin's departure, I don't see any problems
The red part is what we need and what M'Vila can't compare with him. Don't get me wrong, Sahin+M'Vila would be a dream team but not with Alonso and guess who'll start...

hummels is a top 3 CB atm imo,it would be a waste to use him elsewhere

babun1024 wrote:

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

babun1024 wrote:
Kroos is CM->CAM and a very offensive one

Now, without joking or soft trolling (Montolivo), if it were up to me, I'd buy Hummels and transform him into an anchorman CM/DM

what makes you think that Hummels will be good in attack? if so, we might as well buy M'vila, they have similar vision and passing skills, but one is a natural mid already

M'Villa similar to Hummels? Jog on...
Hummels can win the ball, dribble, PASS and keep it under pressure in all three dimensions His positioning sense is exceptional. I don't get why Low doesn't play him in DM position he practivally plays midfield for BVB since Sahin's departure, I don't see any problems
The red part is what we need and what M'Vila can't compare with him. Don't get me wrong, Sahin+M'Vila would be a dream team but not with Alonso and guess who'll start...

dude Hummels has the same skillset as M'vila. Touch? we can hardly talk about it since Hummels play in defense, and mvila in the middle. And im not talking about him running upfield with the ball, but retaining the ball in a maze of players.

Mvila is a fantastic passer as well, just as much as Hummels, he can split open teams with his passing, and shows it off consistently with Rennes.

I think you have the wrong idea about Mvila, he isnt your bulldozer type midfielder with a brain, he is much more refined than that.

Besides, i thought you wanted complete midfielders that can attack and defend?

I must say, Babs' ability to hold multiple conversations is quite nice really.

lol at Hummels,this thread is moving into usual Frenchies vs Germs lol


Mvilla is hardly a step up from khedira offensively..sure he can pass cleanly but so can khedira.I wouldnt bring Mvilla just for a defensive improvement when xabi is already playing deep.

Vidal or Javi Martinez

and my pick will be javi.

Adit wrote:lol at Hummels,this thread is moving into usual Frenchies vs Germs lol


Mvilla is hardly a step up from khedira offensively..sure he can pass cleanly but so can khedira.I wouldnt bring Mvilla just for a defensive improvement when xabi is already playing deep.

Vidal or Javi Martinez

and my pick will be javi.

But Xabi has so much offense in him (see Liverpool days) and Sahin would be completely wasted if he can't jump into the attack when the opportunity is there.

Best attacking players should be able to attack. No point in trying to get people to do things they don't excel in (Xabi is not a great defender; does it due to necessity) and take away from their strengths imo.

Ozil is a rare quality player. One of the few players that almost no one doubt his talent. I hope he continues developing and improving himself in every aspect. Messi improved his freekicks in last three years, I think Ozil can improve his freekicks as well, he is good at it not to forget. I have not seen such a player with a Zidane classy style of play such as Ozil. I hope he becomes the next big thing for the sake of the game, after all, we are football fans.

kattanib wrote:Ozil is a rare quality player. One of the few players that almost no one doubt his talent. I hope he continues developing and improving himself in every aspect. Messi improved his freekicks in last three years, I think Ozil can improve his freekicks as well, he is good at it not to forget. I have not seen such a player with a Zidane classy style of play such as Ozil. I hope he becomes the next big thing for the sake of the game, after all, we are football fans.

Oh, a new poster, welcome to RM section We're open minded to any kind of fans as long as they don't troll
On topic, Mou is trying to make Ozil more involved in buildup than just playing the final ball like last season. We dominate other teams more but he is less at the end of the direct assists. Still, we lead by 3 points so he does something right

Adit wrote:lol at Hummels,this thread is moving into usual Frenchies vs Germs lol


Mvilla is hardly a step up from khedira offensively..sure he can pass cleanly but so can khedira.I wouldnt bring Mvilla just for a defensive improvement when xabi is already playing deep.

Vidal or Javi Martinez

and my pick will be javi.

I'm cool with Javi if we could get our hands on him Then I wouldn't have to think in round about ways to get what we need
One thing I know, if we get someone for the defensive role in 4-2-3-1 I want him to be better than Khedira

Javi Martinez... you guys really think the Basques are going to give Real Madrid one of their bright young stars. He can go anywhere but Real Madrid if he plans on ever going home and surviving lol.