there has got to be a mistake !! no fuking way Inter is not going to Serie C

Oh and i dont believe this at all, not until i see report from goal.com, or if by some chance Ibra confirms this.

its on goal.com now

By Luis Mira
Luciano Moggi found guilty of sporting fraud in Calciopoli scandal
The former supremo of the Turin-based outfit, as well the remaining leading protagonists of the Calciopoli scandal, have all been condemned for their actions



The Tribunal of Naples has found Luciano Moggi guilty of sporting fraud and has sentenced the former Juventus general director to five years and four months in prison.

Moggi will not spend any time in jail, though, due to the intricacies of Italian law. Since this is a first-degree sentence, there are several levels of appeal which Moggi can utilise.

Former refereeing designators Paolo Bergamo and Pierluigi Pairetto have been sentenced to three years and eight months, and one year and 11 months respectively for their roles in the Calciopoli scandal, while Fiorentina owners Diego and Andrea Della Valle and Lazio president Claudio Lotito have all been condemned to one year and three months apiece.

"I absolutely did not expect this sentence," said Maurilio Prioreschi, one of Moggi's attorneys. "We have only lost the first round, we will try to turn the situation around in appeal.

"We will do everything until we have justice. Moggi is devastated, he does not understand how he has been given this sentence.

"We now have 90 days to know the grounds for the decision and prepare our defence for the appeal."

The 74-year-old Moggi had already been banned from football for life for his involvement in the organised action which involved a network of phone calls with former referees and designators as well as former FIGC (Italian Football Association) officials.

Rigged

Ibra said no calciopoli, he said they busted their asses in Juve. Also, Ibra wrote that Inter was like a gang turf: Brazilian clan, Argentinian clan, etc

Only five years and 4 months.

Grande_Milano wrote:Ibra said no calciopoli, he said they busted their asses in Juve. Also, Ibra wrote that Inter was like a gang turf: Brazilian clan, Argentinian clan, etc

Do you know Ibra also said Inter was his favourite club since he was a kid, then went to Barca and changed his mind and went on loving/kissing Barca badge on 1st day, then left and started shiting on that same barca, i wonder what will he say one day when he leaves Milan?

Oh and he also said regarding that "turf" shit, that Inter will never win anything like that, and then he left and what happend? Best season of Inter ever?

Guy is just butthurt a lot.

Maybe you are right, but I doubt hes lying on working his ass off at Juve

Not a done deal yet. Moggi can still appeal to the high court if I'm not mistaken.

Legal processes take a long time to resolve after all. Of course if the appeal request is refused then that'll be the end of that.

I haven't really been following this case but what I do know is this case is quite complicated and does involve other charges not Juve related.

However Inter are pretty much safe regardless of what happens. There just isn't any evidence that links them to this.

LMFAO why is the 4 months so damn random and specific...

I don't get why juventini keep bringing up calciopoli. If Italy paid the refs in a world cup or if inter paid the refs to win serie a / champions league I'd try to avoid that conversation from ever taking place ever again, but these juventus fans just love the embarassment. Good, I don't care if he still has time to appeal this five years because of the Italian law, obviously his lawyers aren't good enough to get him out of jail since Inter were the obvious cheaters yet Juve got relegated after "all that proof"

Oh and in slightly related news: Twitter tells me that UEFA has also rejected Juve's request to have Inter pulled from the Champions League, though I haven't searched for that from a news source yet

vanharouva wrote:Been a long time since i saw so much incompetence in a forum. Nobody has a clue what the trial was about or even that Moggi is not the only one accused.

Still we comment..

Go back to the Old Lady... Mr Intellectual. I'd rather praise these Interisti then you coming here and speak none sense. What did they get wrong? Their right even though I don't agree with them... Moggi is guilty, but not going to jail simple.

InterMalia wrote:Already banned from football and now prison? Poor guy.

Not prison... Get your info right.

zarola wrote:LMFAO why is the 4 months so damn random and specific...

I don't get why juventini keep bringing up calciopoli. If Italy paid the refs in a world cup or if inter paid the refs to win serie a / champions league I'd try to avoid that conversation from ever taking place ever again, but these juventus fans just love the embarassment. Good, I don't care if he still has time to appeal this five years because of the Italian law, obviously his lawyers aren't good enough to get him out of jail since Inter were the obvious cheaters yet Juve got relegated after "all that proof"

you are no longer welcome in the Juventus section
PEPE BANS YOU

Luca wrote:

zarola wrote:LMFAO why is the 4 months so damn random and specific...

I don't get why juventini keep bringing up calciopoli. If Italy paid the refs in a world cup or if inter paid the refs to win serie a / champions league I'd try to avoid that conversation from ever taking place ever again, but these juventus fans just love the embarassment. Good, I don't care if he still has time to appeal this five years because of the Italian law, obviously his lawyers aren't good enough to get him out of jail since Inter were the obvious cheaters yet Juve got relegated after "all that proof"

you are no longer welcome in the Juventus section
PEPE BANS YOU

Knowing what Pepe is capable of doing, I will look @ the brightside and thank God (Pepe) that banishing me from the Juve section is all that happened.

Pepe be with you.

Ok, fine, were softies. You can come back but you owe Juventus a compliment and an apology.

Oh and:

Proceedings in Naples. Official Company note

Today’s decision stated Juventus’ non involvement with the matters charged. The Club was taken to the court of Naples as civilly liable entity by way of objective liability according to Art. 2049 Italian Civil Code. The decision emerged from the result of a thorough hearing and from the analysis of all evidences, clashed with the reality of an inaccurate sports law which severely penalized Juventus, the sole club damaged due to the removal of two titles - following the victories achieved on the pitch - with consequent relegation and related extensive losses. Juventus will continue their legitimate campaigns in order to restore the equality of treatment.

Its not over

according to Article 2049 of the Italian Civil Code, corporations bear civil liability for wrongdoings committed by directors, officers and employees in performing the activities carried out for the corporation, jointly and severally with such individuals

I'm guessing this clashes with Italian sport law that is applicable but I cannot find the exact law, then it just comes done to which law holds more weight.

i love this philosophy of some of the juve fans

"innocent until proven guilty 5 or 6 times (depending on Italian trials)"

Actually until the appeal process is completed its true. Not just for this case, for any case. The right to appeal to rule out judicial error and go through the hierarchy of courts.

So, I guess you love the philosophy of western law :dance:

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andiii wrote:i love this philosophy of some of the juve fans

"innocent until proven guilty 5 or 6 times (depending on Italian trials)"

According to Italian Law, not by Juve fans

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

andiii wrote:i love this philosophy of some of the juve fans

"innocent until proven guilty 5 or 6 times (depending on Italian trials)"

According to Italian Law, not by Juve fans

Actually, innocent until proven guilty and the appeal process is common in many legal systems
but apparently, us Juventus fans own the philosophy, which I might say is rather gratifying

How pathetic is this guy?
He got his ass handed to him countless times on countless courts, but its great like this, every now and then we all get to be reminded of this thief, that way we will never forget and this way it wont happen again

vanharouva wrote:By the way, has not anyone noticed what Zlatan wrote in his new book?

"“It was all rubbish, at least most of it,” wrote the Swede. “Referees did us favours? Oh come on! We fought hard on the pitch. We risked our legs and did it all without having any help from referees. It’s all a load of c**p.” -Zlatan

must have been all inter then because is carlo ancelottis biography he denies milan having any part in all this too, guess the juventus fans were right all along

"carlo didn't admit they cheated in his book so therefore it can't have been true"

why didn't moggi do this before his trial? apparently all he needed to do was come out with a book where he said juve didn't cheat and he'd clearly be innocent, regardless of anything as unimportant as actual incriminating evidence