Aren't these illegal?

0:10, 0:42

any responses?

No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.

well I got this from wikipedia
After the referee blows his whistle, which is the signal for the kick to be taken, the kicker must kick the ball in a forward direction (not necessarily at the goal, though this is almost always the case).
The ball must be kicked after a run-up by the taker, who may slow or stop his run during the run-up but may not feint when he is on the point of kicking the ball ("paradinha"). If the taker scores after violating this rule, the kick must be re-taken and the kicker must be cautioned for unsporting behavior.

Yes they are legal, you can stop as many times as you want in a penalty attemp

The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.

I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives

People may see it as clever, i see it as a bit wet. As if you need more of an advantage for a penalty

Lex wrote:People may see it as clever, i see it as a bit wet. As if you need more of an advantage for a penalty

Well according to the rules its cheating, the reffing must be questionable in Brazil if this happens regularly.

Watching it back, though, he went to kick it, stopped, THEN kicked it. That is definitely not allowed

Lionel Messi wrote:

The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.

I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives

And this is allowed...

@ 3:00, only cech didint dive and saw that happening.
Like i said before you are allowed to trick gk or stop when you are giving an penalty kick but its illegal to backward your steps and try to kick the ball.

The xcx wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.

I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives

And this is allowed...

@ 3:00, only cech didint dive and saw that happening.
Like i said before you are allowed to trick gk or stop when you are giving an penalty kick but its illegal to backward your steps and try to kick the ball.

Theres a difference between the run up and when you're at the ball about to kick it.

Lionel Messi wrote:

The xcx wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.

I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives

And this is allowed...

@ 3:00, only cech didint dive and saw that happening.
Like i said before you are allowed to trick gk or stop when you are giving an penalty kick but its illegal to backward your steps and try to kick the ball.

Theres a difference between the run up and when you're at the ball about to kick it.

Care to explain or post a video, buddy?

The xcx wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

The xcx wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.

I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives

And this is allowed...

@ 3:00, only cech didint dive and saw that happening.
Like i said before you are allowed to trick gk or stop when you are giving an penalty kick but its illegal to backward your steps and try to kick the ball.

Theres a difference between the run up and when you're at the ball about to kick it.

Care to explain or post a video, buddy?

The videos I posted in the OP

Lionel Messi wrote:

The xcx wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

The xcx wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.

I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives

And this is allowed...

@ 3:00, only cech didint dive and saw that happening.
Like i said before you are allowed to trick gk or stop when you are giving an penalty kick but its illegal to backward your steps and try to kick the ball.

Theres a difference between the run up and when you're at the ball about to kick it.

Care to explain or post a video, buddy?

The videos I posted in the OP

Nope, dosent change my opinion, there legal.

What's difference between Neymar's and Cristiano's?

ronaldo__9 wrote:What's difference between Neymar's and Cristiano's?

There isint, ronaldo had the same intention to fool the gk.

Are you people serious?

One stopped half way during the run up, then ran up and kicked it, the other ran up, went to kick the ball, stopped, then kicked it

It's right in front of your eyes ffs.....

Lex wrote:Are you people serious?

One stopped half way during the run up, then ran up and kicked it, the other ran up, went to kick the ball, stopped, then kicked it

It's right in front of your eyes ffs.....

That's what I'm saying

ronaldo__9 wrote:What's difference between Neymar's and Cristiano's?

The run up is not the same as getting up to the ball, when you're at the ball you must kick it or it has to be retaken

Lionel Messi wrote:

ronaldo__9 wrote:What's difference between Neymar's and Cristiano's?

The run up is not the same as getting up to the ball, when you're at the ball you must kick it or it has to be retaken

Oh I understand. I thought you were complaining about the fact that it was a dummy, but it was because of actually pretending to kick it not running and stopping midway.

I found this. That rule might be only for the World Cup.

http://www.totalfootballmadness.com/2010/05/19/players-banned-from-using-dummy-during-penalty-kick-in-the-world-cup/

This cant be allowed, If they try this in Europe I dont think the refs would allow it.

I believe that is illegal.

He is allowed to stop whenever he wants to as long as he doesn't kick/or try to kick the ball, i am a 100% certain of it.

They are Illegal for sure