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Post by Albiceleste Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 22:40




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Post by Albiceleste Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:13

any responses?

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Post by the xcx Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:19

No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.
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Post by Albiceleste Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:22

well I got this from wikipedia
After the referee blows his whistle, which is the signal for the kick to be taken, the kicker must kick the ball in a forward direction (not necessarily at the goal, though this is almost always the case).
The ball must be kicked after a run-up by the taker, who may slow or stop his run during the run-up but may not feint when he is on the point of kicking the ball ("paradinha"). If the taker scores after violating this rule, the kick must be re-taken and the kicker must be cautioned for unsporting behavior.

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Post by Freeza Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:23

Yes they are legal, you can stop as many times as you want in a penalty attemp
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Post by Albiceleste Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:23

The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.
I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives

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Post by Lex Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:27

People may see it as clever, i see it as a bit wet. As if you need more of an advantage for a penalty
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Post by Albiceleste Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:28

Lex wrote:People may see it as clever, i see it as a bit wet. As if you need more of an advantage for a penalty
Well according to the rules its cheating, the reffing must be questionable in Brazil if this happens regularly.

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Post by Lex Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:28

Watching it back, though, he went to kick it, stopped, THEN kicked it. That is definitely not allowed
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Post by the xcx Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:33

Lionel Messi wrote:
The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.
I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives
And this is allowed...

@ 3:00, only cech didint dive and saw that happening.
Like i said before you are allowed to trick gk or stop when you are giving an penalty kick but its illegal to backward your steps and try to kick the ball.


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Post by drakefyre Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:35

Apparently they aint legal
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Post by Albiceleste Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:39

The xcx wrote:
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The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.
I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives
And this is allowed...

@ 3:00, only cech didint dive and saw that happening.
Like i said before you are allowed to trick gk or stop when you are giving an penalty kick but its illegal to backward your steps and try to kick the ball.
Theres a difference between the run up and when you're at the ball about to kick it.

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Post by the xcx Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:40

Lionel Messi wrote:
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The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.
I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives
And this is allowed...

@ 3:00, only cech didint dive and saw that happening.
Like i said before you are allowed to trick gk or stop when you are giving an penalty kick but its illegal to backward your steps and try to kick the ball.
Theres a difference between the run up and when you're at the ball about to kick it.
Care to explain or post a video, buddy?
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Post by Albiceleste Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:46

The xcx wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
The xcx wrote:
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The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.
I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives
And this is allowed...

@ 3:00, only cech didint dive and saw that happening.
Like i said before you are allowed to trick gk or stop when you are giving an penalty kick but its illegal to backward your steps and try to kick the ball.
Theres a difference between the run up and when you're at the ball about to kick it.
Care to explain or post a video, buddy?
The videos I posted in the OP

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Post by the xcx Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:49

Lionel Messi wrote:
The xcx wrote:
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The xcx wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
The xcx wrote:No they arent because he did not step back to try again, once you start shooting an penalty, u are allowed to stop but that means you cannot take another try after that.
I think you missed the point, when he goes right up to the ball, he fakes the kick so the keeper dives
And this is allowed...

@ 3:00, only cech didint dive and saw that happening.
Like i said before you are allowed to trick gk or stop when you are giving an penalty kick but its illegal to backward your steps and try to kick the ball.
Theres a difference between the run up and when you're at the ball about to kick it.
Care to explain or post a video, buddy?
The videos I posted in the OP
Nope, dosent change my opinion, there legal.
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Post by Busby Babe Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:51

What's difference between Neymar's and Cristiano's?
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Post by the xcx Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:52

ronaldo__9 wrote:What's difference between Neymar's and Cristiano's?
There isint, ronaldo had the same intention to fool the gk.
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Post by Lex Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 23:56

Are you people serious?

One stopped half way during the run up, then ran up and kicked it, the other ran up, went to kick the ball, stopped, then kicked it

It's right in front of your eyes ffs.....
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Post by Albiceleste Mon 13 Jun 2011 - 0:00

Lex wrote:Are you people serious?

One stopped half way during the run up, then ran up and kicked it, the other ran up, went to kick the ball, stopped, then kicked it

It's right in front of your eyes ffs.....
That's what I'm saying

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Post by Albiceleste Mon 13 Jun 2011 - 0:01

ronaldo__9 wrote:What's difference between Neymar's and Cristiano's?
The run up is not the same as getting up to the ball, when you're at the ball you must kick it or it has to be retaken

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Post by Busby Babe Mon 13 Jun 2011 - 0:12

Lionel Messi wrote:
ronaldo__9 wrote:What's difference between Neymar's and Cristiano's?
The run up is not the same as getting up to the ball, when you're at the ball you must kick it or it has to be retaken

Oh I understand. I thought you were complaining about the fact that it was a dummy, but it was because of actually pretending to kick it not running and stopping midway.

I found this. That rule might be only for the World Cup.

http://www.totalfootballmadness.com/2010/05/19/players-banned-from-using-dummy-during-penalty-kick-in-the-world-cup/

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Post by Raptorgunner Mon 13 Jun 2011 - 1:34

This cant be allowed, If they try this in Europe I dont think the refs would allow it.
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Post by IzzyC08 Mon 13 Jun 2011 - 1:41

I believe that is illegal.
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Post by Freeza Mon 13 Jun 2011 - 1:45

He is allowed to stop whenever he wants to as long as he doesn't kick/or try to kick the ball, i am a 100% certain of it.
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Post by The Messiah Mon 13 Jun 2011 - 1:54

They are Illegal for sure
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