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Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
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Is Andres Iniesta an all-time great already?
Re: Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
Amazing how people forget how incredible Xavi was
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ES wrote:Amazing how people forget how incredible Xavi was
Yep dominated world football for an unbelievable scretch, more so than any other CM in history IMO and coincidently Spain's biggest claim to fame since he retired is beating Turkey lol.
Iniesta maybe more offensively skillful but in no way in hell has he been better than him at any stage.
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ES wrote:Amazing how people forget how incredible Xavi was
amazing how people forget how incredible david villa was. spain won the last euros with him on the bench, but from 06-2011, i always felt he was their best player, or him and xavi. his goalscoring record for them, and the number of games it took for him to get that speaks for itself. i think cos he's not a madridista or barcelona legend that people kinda ignore him
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Re: Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
I don't. He is the greatest striker Spain has produced for their NT and has yet to be replaced. David Villa is probably a better striker than Morata all now but I am probably being silly (or correct).
Anyway, Spain got the right balance at the perfect time and got legends in their peak in Iker, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Villa and had some fine supporting casts in Silva, Carzola, the very underrated Capdevilla, Xabi Alonso and the kinda forgotten Marcos Senna.
On and I reckon Iniesta is an all time great about now.
Anyway, Spain got the right balance at the perfect time and got legends in their peak in Iker, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Villa and had some fine supporting casts in Silva, Carzola, the very underrated Capdevilla, Xabi Alonso and the kinda forgotten Marcos Senna.
On and I reckon Iniesta is an all time great about now.
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Re: Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
titosantill wrote:ES wrote:Amazing how people forget how incredible Xavi was
amazing how people forget how incredible david villa was. spain won the last euros with him on the bench, but from 06-2011, i always felt he was their best player, or him and xavi. his goalscoring record for them, and the number of games it took for him to get that speaks for itself. i think cos he's not a madridista or barcelona legend that people kinda ignore him
Agree. David Villa was the reason I started following football seriously tbh. It's sad that he is sooo underrated everywhere. I can bet anything even this euro if he was playing he would have made this falling Spain side much more threatening.
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I think everyone who calls himself a football fan loves David Villa
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Villa is one of my favorite players ever. Only that i hated his stint at Barca because he was used on the left wing.
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Really? i think he was perfect for the leftwing, whenever i think of the perfect inside forward it's villa
he ran behind the line amazingly, perfeted the RB + B shot as if he played fifa in real life, could dribble etc
he ran behind the line amazingly, perfeted the RB + B shot as if he played fifa in real life, could dribble etc
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Re: Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
Oh dem finesse shots ![:bow:](/users/3313/22/97/24/smiles/1499845164.gif)
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Everyone would rave about how well Iniesta played against both Turkey and the Czech Republic - two of the worst teams in the tournament - but when Iniesta puts on a disappearing act against both Croatia and Italy, nobody dares to criticize him. Just look at this thread for example, other than Valkyrja.
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Re: Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
Because he's already a cemented all time great, nobody ever criticizes a player in the twilight of his career when they have already cemented themselves as a legend.
It's the same when Pirlo was in his 30s, very rarely did anyone ever criticize him. The only time anyone ever did was when he was compared to Xavi other than that it was constant praise.
It maybe not the must balanced appraisal of a player but it's how it's always been.
Hell i remember dozens of games when Zidane was crap in his 30s and nobody ever mentioned it, not sure why it should be any different for Iniesta.
It's the same when Pirlo was in his 30s, very rarely did anyone ever criticize him. The only time anyone ever did was when he was compared to Xavi other than that it was constant praise.
It maybe not the must balanced appraisal of a player but it's how it's always been.
Hell i remember dozens of games when Zidane was crap in his 30s and nobody ever mentioned it, not sure why it should be any different for Iniesta.
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Re: Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
Iniesta is already an all time great. I mean if I even have to go down the list as to why he is, then I must first ask what kind of a football fan isn't aware of that already? I mean it's a silly ass question, and not even debatable.
Not surprised it's that 10 year old bias Valkyrie coming in here trying to crap on him.
Not surprised it's that 10 year old bias Valkyrie coming in here trying to crap on him.
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Re: Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
Pip wrote:Everyone would rave about how well Iniesta played against both Turkey and the Czech Republic - two of the worst teams in the tournament - but when Iniesta puts on a disappearing act against both Croatia and Italy, nobody dares to criticize him. Just look at this thread for example, other than Valkyrja.
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Two imp points I would like to make;
First of all Iniesta isn't some kind of 19 year old kid playing in Turkish league who was hyped after few good performances hence should be called out. He is one of the most decorated and respected footballer of all times and has proved himself at every stage be it for club or NT. He is clearly at his career twilight and isn't what he used to be, happens to best of them.
Second, you lose ur entire credibility when u endorse Valkyrja post.
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There is no doubting Iniesta and his career as a footballer. His legacy will always be remembered. But look at the posts from 18 June after Spain beat Turkey 3-0. And then nobody posts here again when Spain lose to Croatia, and then nobody posts when Spain lose to Italy.
When he plays well - "best midfielder"
When he plays poorly - "in the twilight of his career"
When he plays well - "best midfielder"
When he plays poorly - "in the twilight of his career"
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S wrote:Villa is one of my favorite players ever. Only that i hated his stint at Barca because he was used on the left wing.
Emery's Valencia with Villa, Silva, Mata, Banega, Joaquin, Vicente, Pablo Hernandez, was soooo goddam fun. Wearing those sick Valencia bat kits. It was the epitome of amazing FIFA team.
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Re: Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
Pip wrote:There is no doubting Iniesta and his career as a footballer. His legacy will always be remembered. But look at the posts from 18 June after Spain beat Turkey 3-0. And then nobody posts here again when Spain lose to Croatia, and then nobody posts when Spain lose to Italy.
When he plays well - "best midfielder"
When he plays poorly - "in the twilight of his career"
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Very much agreed but in my own very minor defense, I like Iniesta so I can't bring myself to overly criticize him. Bias and all that.
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Re: Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
Did only see the first half of Italy-Spain, but it certainly seemed to me that it wasn't down to Iniesta not performing that Spain was bad.
Why would we pin it on Iniesta when you have catastrophic displays by Alba, Nolito, Busquets, Fabregas and so on? I mean, Alba![Laughing](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif)
Iniesta has stepped it up more than enough to be beyond petty knee jerk stuff like doubting his greatness just because Spain didn't play well.
Why would we pin it on Iniesta when you have catastrophic displays by Alba, Nolito, Busquets, Fabregas and so on? I mean, Alba
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Iniesta has stepped it up more than enough to be beyond petty knee jerk stuff like doubting his greatness just because Spain didn't play well.
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Re: Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
yeah Iniesta wasn't at fault against Italy. Juanfran, Alba, Nolito, Fabregas and Busquets got demolished.
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Re: Is Iniesta already an all-time great?
The main thing about Iniesta (and Xavi) that isn't discussed is how smart they are. they plan out plays 2/3 passes ahead. they see field like a chess game. besides their obvious talent, it's their on field intelligence that makes them legends.
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