sportsczy wrote:Sagna is 100x the defender and player Arbeloa is. The CBs and LB are very inconsistent for that team and often surrender goals on set pieces and errors. He basically takes the whole right side out of the picture. Imagine how bad it would've been if he wasn't there. With Mertesacker instead of Djourou or Squilacci, it's been a lot better this year. Of course, Sagna is now injured.

But my point was not making a direct comparison. It's just great to have someone at RB who is in the same conversation as the best defensive RB in the game. In the modern game, fullbacks are eulogized more for their offensive prowess... which is a shame to me. It sets a bad example.

I just like the fact that these two are old school... great defensively and fundamentally sound.

Superstone Mariomintsch wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Sagna is 100x the defender and player Arbeloa is. The CBs and LB are very inconsistent for that team and often surrender goals on set pieces and errors. He basically takes the whole right side out of the picture. Imagine how bad it would've been if he wasn't there. With Mertesacker instead of Djourou or Squilacci, it's been a lot better this year. Of course, Sagna is now injured.

But my point was not making a direct comparison. It's just great to have someone at RB who is in the same conversation as the best defensive RB in the game. In the modern game, fullbacks are eulogized more for their offensive prowess... which is a shame to me. It sets a bad example.

I just like the fact that these two are old school... great defensively and fundamentally sound.

Yes, although Cafu might have most World Cup caps, there's a reason why Djalma Santos is still considered the best Brazilian RB and arguably even the best RB. France traditionally have more offensive LB and more solid RB, how do you think Sagna compares to Amoros, Thuram, and Sagnol?

sportsczy wrote:

Superstone Mariomintsch wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Sagna is 100x the defender and player Arbeloa is. The CBs and LB are very inconsistent for that team and often surrender goals on set pieces and errors. He basically takes the whole right side out of the picture. Imagine how bad it would've been if he wasn't there. With Mertesacker instead of Djourou or Squilacci, it's been a lot better this year. Of course, Sagna is now injured.

But my point was not making a direct comparison. It's just great to have someone at RB who is in the same conversation as the best defensive RB in the game. In the modern game, fullbacks are eulogized more for their offensive prowess... which is a shame to me. It sets a bad example.

I just like the fact that these two are old school... great defensively and fundamentally sound.

Yes, although Cafu might have most World Cup caps, there's a reason why Djalma Santos is still considered the best Brazilian RB and arguably even the best RB. France traditionally have more offensive LB and more solid RB, how do you think Sagna compares to Amoros, Thuram, and Sagnol?

Thuram was one of the best RB ever imo and also at CB. In WC 1998, he was beaten on his side once... and he turned around and scored the only 2 goals of his life in that same game because he was so annoyed. Relentless.

Amoros was my second favorite RB because he was on my favorite France NT side (the Platini years). That group just played very sexy football. Their brand of football was so good that the Mexican crown in WC 1986 would chant "Francia!" every time we played other than the Brazil game... and they even changed it then once the game was over.

Sagna is one of the best ones currently... but nowhere in the league of of those two.

I don't rate Sagnol much compared to the others, although he was good.

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Superstone Mariomintsch wrote:

sportsczy wrote:

Superstone Mariomintsch wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Sagna is 100x the defender and player Arbeloa is. The CBs and LB are very inconsistent for that team and often surrender goals on set pieces and errors. He basically takes the whole right side out of the picture. Imagine how bad it would've been if he wasn't there. With Mertesacker instead of Djourou or Squilacci, it's been a lot better this year. Of course, Sagna is now injured.

But my point was not making a direct comparison. It's just great to have someone at RB who is in the same conversation as the best defensive RB in the game. In the modern game, fullbacks are eulogized more for their offensive prowess... which is a shame to me. It sets a bad example.

I just like the fact that these two are old school... great defensively and fundamentally sound.

Yes, although Cafu might have most World Cup caps, there's a reason why Djalma Santos is still considered the best Brazilian RB and arguably even the best RB. France traditionally have more offensive LB and more solid RB, how do you think Sagna compares to Amoros, Thuram, and Sagnol?

Thuram was one of the best RB ever imo and also at CB. In WC 1998, he was beaten on his side once... and he turned around and scored the only 2 goals of his life in that same game because he was so annoyed. Relentless.

Amoros was my second favorite RB because he was on my favorite France NT side (the Platini years). That group just played very sexy football. Their brand of football was so good that the Mexican crown in WC 1986 would chant "Francia!" every time we played other than the Brazil game... and they even changed it then once the game was over.

Sagna is one of the best ones currently... but nowhere in the league of of those two.

I don't rate Sagnol much compared to the others, although he was good.

I see, it really is very nice to get insight from someone who really understands about it.
Anyway, what do you mean about that, did France play bad against Brazil or it's just the Latino connection? And what do you mean change it

Don't you think Sagnol is still better than Sagna, considering he was somehow still being mentioned as a top RB when the likes of Zanetti, Cafu, and Neville still around and he was the mainstay in france for more than 5 years?

Anyway, Thuram is the best balanced-enough RB I've ever seen :king: , even if I prefer Zanetti and Maicon more

Superstone Mariomintsch wrote:

Zealous wrote:This superstone guy should post here more often.

Hey rich and handsome fellow, I dont know what to post here man I was almost totally ignored in the MRBIBTY section, I dont even have enough confidence to post Ah nevermind, couple of words from a rich&handsome person has boosted my confidence , but really what can and should I post to get response? :lol!:

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