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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:12 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:I need to stop making fun of them but that striker list rofl

Guaranteed to strike fear into the most courageous Proud

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Post by Doc Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:15 pm

sportsczy wrote:Or he's either tired of thinking about the ass-kicking France put on him... or he doesn't want to stay in Croatia too long as he's facing jail time due to perjury in the tax fraud trial of Zdravko Mamic, a former executive director at Dinamo Zagreb. He lied in court.

Better to leave lol.

Definitely the latter. The prospect of jail is not something to trifle with, I would have bail one time too. In any case, they Croatian lawmakers are gonna find the lowest possible punishment to give him as I doubt they'll be giving WC Golden Ball winner Modric hard jail.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:24 pm

I suspect that alot of the players wont get any minutes. Or will only see minutes in the first game. The game against pathetico is just 15 days away and we only have 3 games to play before that game. Not to mention the players who have just joined need to be ready physically too. I suspect we are going to focus on the prospects with the brightest futures. Mainly the midfielders.
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Post by Turok_TTZ Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:32 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Squad for US friendlies:

Goalkeepers: Navas, Casilla, Zidane and Lunin.

Defenders: Carvajal, Vallejo, Ramos, Nacho, Theo, Odriozola, Reguilon, Quezada, Sergio Lopez, Javi Sanchez, De la Fuente and Leon.

Midfielders: Kroos, Llorente, Asensio, Isco, Ceballos, Odegaard, Valverde, Seoane, Oscar and Feuillassier.

Strikers: Benzema, Bale, Lucas Vazquez, Mayoral, De Tomas and Vinicius.

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Navas, Ramos and Carvajal are already in US so will join the group there. Only Marcelo, Casemiro, Varane,  Kova and Modric left. I need to stop making fun of them but that striker list rofl

remember Nick we had an argument about Vinicius being winger or a forward? Looks like I was right on the money. The club views vinicius as a forward being put in the strikers list. if I were to make a guess on his future. I would say wide forward to be specifc his role here at this club. though he COULD play cf. but i think rodrygo would be more suited for that role.

that list reveals some insight into roles. asensio is a part of the midfield as I suspected. hm... considering lopetegui favoring spanish, how will the lineup and formation look like when the season starts that favors isco and asensio when we have reports that Benz and Bale is our attack...?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:59 pm

You are right on the money because someone drafted a list in his office in Madrid and published it online. I guess Lucas Vasquez is a striker too?

Dude lmao

And for the record the conservation was you saying he is a n9 and me telling you had no clue what you were talking about. In a nutshell, still true


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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:00 pm

I don't think it matters too much where players are placed on the list. Both Lucas and Asensio had a mirror role with the team last season but one was called a midfielder while the other was called a forward
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:10 pm

Of course it doesn't it's fcking meaningless. But Turok wants to use that as an argument lol
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Post by Turok_TTZ Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:21 pm

Vinicius is a forward. forward doesnt necessarily translate into 9. and we cannot fathom what the club plans to do with him. for he has not yet played a single minute for us. for all we knew we could convert him to a different position right now. you say this nick but remember isco was a natural am when he came here. we have since kept him in cm and we did the same with james even though he was inconsistent as cm.

with the speed that vincius has, he must be put on the front out wide where it will be most useful. you speak of a winger in the traditional winger sense. and therein lies the problem: we dont use traditional wingers here. we leave that for marcelo and carjaval pushing up.
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Post by guest7 Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:19 am

Lucas Vazquez played for us as a fullback, yet some brighthead in Madrid defines his role as a striker rofl
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Post by sportsczy Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:27 am

He played I think 2 times at fullback due to injuries... and it was a disaster, most notably against a Juve.

He's a winger, not a striker, though.
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Post by guest7 Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:50 am

sportsczy wrote:He played I think 2 times at fullback due to injuries... and it was a disaster, most notably against a Juve.

He's a winger, not a striker, though.


Yes of course, I didn't mean he is a fullback but I meant that he has played the opposite part of the pitch basically. Like you said, he is a winger first and foremost
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:08 pm

Live training, doing positional work, team moving in blocks, forward and back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKywXKBlXo8
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:03 pm

Watched the live training. We are lucky that we managed to retain Pintus. All the players look in tip top shape. Excited for Wednesday, Vinicius looks so serious, guy is trying so hard to impress. I like it, Odegaard seems more integrated than he was all those seasons ago. Wonder if the newcomers will get playing time on Wed, they've been training at the same pace for a couple of days. Well evetyone apart from Ramos who I couldn't see anywhere
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:07 pm

watching Kroos do his warm ups rofl how is that guy a high level athlete Laughing
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:37 pm

you realize i am not from norway right? u still did not get that i was making fun of you? gosh you are slow Laughing
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:03 pm

and i have told you before, i am not interested in you at all as a poster, so sod off lol
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:05 pm

So even though he told you he wasn't Scandinavian, you still called him one. Unique, you're definitely something Laughing

BTW, this is one of the rarest moments I agree with you. The possibility of Bale getting injured and Benzema going on a goal-drought rampage is likely to happen. It happened before countless times, and there are no positive signs suggesting otherwise.

This is why I strongly feel we should get a reliable number 9. oh well...
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Post by Unique Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:19 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:So even though he told you he wasn't Scandinavian, you still called him one. Unique, you're definitely something Laughing

BTW, this is one of the rarest moments I agree with you. The possibility of Bale getting injured and Benzema going on a goal-drought rampage is likely to happen. It happened before countless times, and there are no positive signs suggesting otherwise.

This is why I strongly feel we should get a reliable number 9. oh well...
buy kane. that way i can watch madrid and spurs go down the pan in the same season. cheers
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Post by Turok_TTZ Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:12 pm

whats going on in this thread..?

Vasquez is a literal utility guy there is no role defined for him. a literal jack of all trades master of none. he's more or less deployed on the wing just for his work-rate and nothing else.

in any case the one I'm paying most attention to right now is Vinicius as I think depending on his performance will decide whether or not we sign a new forward.

the utter lack of movement from the club in the market... are we waiting to see what vinicius can contribute before  making a final decision? Higuain was originally a Winger before; he was a forward. so any nonsense on him not being able to play CF is ridiculous. Vinicius will be converted like Higuain to whichever role based on his strengths and suits our system best be it WF or CF.

that is the future I see for him. I hope he does well as personally I think his future is WF as thats where the trend is heading.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:26 pm

I have no idea what you were doing in this thread Unique but trolling in other club sections is still not allowed. Be glad you aren't banned.

Don't want to see you here again.
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Post by Turok_TTZ Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:11 am

RealGunner wrote:I have no idea what you were doing in this thread Unique but trolling in other club sections is still not allowed. Be glad you aren't banned.

Don't want to see you here again.

wait its not allowed? how the hell does hans get away with it then?
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Post by The Madrid One Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:14 am

Saw a bit of today's training, two teams played against each other one was

Lunin
Odriozola Vallejo ? Theo
Ceballos Llorente Valverde
Bale Benzema Vinicius Jr.

Something like that, maybe we're going to see that as our starting lineup tomorrow.

Other team was

Casilla
Carvajal Nacho ? ?
Isco Kroos Asensio
Lucas De Tomas Mayoral

i think
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Post by Turok_TTZ Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:34 am

There were reports some days ago that lopetegui was training the BBV together so I suspected we're gearing for a 433. I see that has continued today. good. I hope Vinicius develops well into the WF role. because when Marcelo is available, Vinicius needs to just focus on attacking cutting inside. his dribbling and speed will be an asset in attack. the finishing can be learned with time. He showed great desire in training. I hope he explodes as we needed more speed and in particular dribbling on the flanks.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:23 pm

Saw the training session from this morning. In the game, they practiced pressing from the front. Lot's of one touch passing.

@TMO, that's what I could make out too. Odegaard played with both as an outlet in heavy press.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:43 pm

all i expect today are signs of juego de position, i at least want to see that the team is working on that
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:49 pm

I want goals. I want to be convinced that we will be fine without a striker. I think the Super Copa will tell us alot on where we are and how urgently we need certain players. They are like the best team you could play to measure how ready you are. We do well there and I can definitely get excited

Against United I am mainly looking at the formation, the B players and the attackers. Those have been massive question marks for me over the last season. Last season we started preseason not being able to score and we started the season in the same vain. Hopefully this time it's a reverse
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