Top 10 Players of 2023/24
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Re: Top 10 Players of 2023/24
He's actually got 11 but Uefa stole his assists against Braga and City so whatever.
Bdor is going to be between Vini and Jude. No way Mbappe is even in the conversation if he goes out tonight
Bdor is going to be between Vini and Jude. No way Mbappe is even in the conversation if he goes out tonight
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Bdor is Kane's... Bayern winning tomorrow
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We are not knocking out City with an eye of a potential final against Dortmund to bottle it at home to Bayern. I trust Vini to get us through
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El Gunner wrote:even if for some reason you personally prefer Rice and Odegaard over Saka, this is just objectively bad phrasingArquitecto wrote:My problem if I had to see one is putting Saka above two more effective players in Rice & Odegaard, the latter miles more skilled and ahead of him.
i wish we could have more honest discussions instead of trolling on this forumbasically everyone on this forum were in agreement last season that Rodri is the most important piece in that Man City team... i personally haven't seen any drop off from Rodri last season to this, and we saw how they dropped points when he was suspended in the early parts of this seasonArquitecto wrote:Rodri above Vini is also heavily questionable but hey risky takes are more fun than the safe bets.
Vini isn't that important to Real Madrid... he is an end product player, not so much a heartbeat or generator... even Saka holds more importance to Arsenal than Vini to Madrid
Bro you are the only one on this forum who rates Sara as high as you do so objective is not the word to use here given you don't possess the metrics to say how he has been more influential than the two other players given he is a big game flop, overrated known by the general audience (Arsenal opinions are not relevant due to bias) and just isn't as skilled as Odegaard its not even close.
As for Vini, everyone on this forum? Like who? Rather than using the audience to back your opinion up how about you stop being a contrarian and comparing one of the best players in the world and a UCL master in Vini to Rodrigo who isn't even in the conversation for it. Like tf
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No particular order...
Lautaro Martinez
Harry Kane
Jude (duh)
Miguel (Girona)
Odegaard
Rodri (double duh)
Florian Wirtz
Mbappe
Xavi Simons (a genuine fun player to watch)
Savio (Girona)
With Simons, this can easily be replaced by Vini as the latter has been equally fine and fun. Anyway, honourable mentions:
Grimaldo, Rice/Saka, Griezmann, Zirkzee (Bologna), Kvaradona (Napoli), Haaland, Guirassy (who quietly yet loudly scored 25 goals), Foden (should be top ten honestly but, you know, bias towards Simons), Rudi.
Lautaro Martinez
Harry Kane
Jude (duh)
Miguel (Girona)
Odegaard
Rodri (double duh)
Florian Wirtz
Mbappe
Xavi Simons (a genuine fun player to watch)
Savio (Girona)
With Simons, this can easily be replaced by Vini as the latter has been equally fine and fun. Anyway, honourable mentions:
Grimaldo, Rice/Saka, Griezmann, Zirkzee (Bologna), Kvaradona (Napoli), Haaland, Guirassy (who quietly yet loudly scored 25 goals), Foden (should be top ten honestly but, you know, bias towards Simons), Rudi.
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Based list like EG's own (heavily debatable) list. tbh
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Arquitecto wrote:Based list like EG's own (heavily debatable) list. tbh
Who'll you take out? I mean, I'm obviously not gonna take out any but I'm willing to disagree heavily with your options
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By based I mean its a strong list in terms of controversial as here I dont particularly disagree but if there was then Lautaro given his big game disappearances and then maybe Simons but I want to create my own soon and contest it.
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Doc wrote:No particular order...
Lautaro Martinez
Harry Kane
Jude (duh)
Miguel (Girona)
Odegaard
Rodri (double duh)
Florian Wirtz
Mbappe
Xavi Simons (a genuine fun player to watch)
Savio (Girona)
With Simons, this can easily be replaced by Vini as the latter has been equally fine and fun. Anyway, honourable mentions:
Grimaldo, Rice/Saka, Griezmann, Zirkzee (Bologna), Kvaradona (Napoli), Haaland, Guirassy (who quietly yet loudly scored 25 goals), Foden (should be top ten honestly but, you know, bias towards Simons), Rudi.
finally someone that takes my thread seriously, although Saka should be in your top 10 especially if you think Foden should be there over him
Arq, i don't want to have discussions with you anymore until you become serious
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Out of all my top ten, Martinez can be replaced but from my own viewing of Inter this season (maybe 15 games and most of their CL), he has been really consistent and even matching his consistency in being inconsistent in big matches.
With Saka, honestly, it was going to be him, Ode or Rice making my top ten and I chose Ode due to my own perception of his consistency. As an Arsenal fan EG, you'll see Arsenal in a more granular level so if my comment triggers anything negative, take me not being an Arsenal fan per se into consideration.
Jude, Miguel, Florian and Savio are unmovable and non-negotiable for me for obvious reasons. Oh and throw in Gluten Free Dani as well in the honourable stuff.
With Saka, honestly, it was going to be him, Ode or Rice making my top ten and I chose Ode due to my own perception of his consistency. As an Arsenal fan EG, you'll see Arsenal in a more granular level so if my comment triggers anything negative, take me not being an Arsenal fan per se into consideration.
Jude, Miguel, Florian and Savio are unmovable and non-negotiable for me for obvious reasons. Oh and throw in Gluten Free Dani as well in the honourable stuff.
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Re: Top 10 Players of 2023/24
Miguel as in Miguel Gutierez
If you want a top performer form Girona then it is Aleix Garcia and Dovbyk.
If you want a top performer form Girona then it is Aleix Garcia and Dovbyk.
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@Doc all good
Odegaard was actually having a somewhat underwhelming season for the standards that he set last season up until the last two months. Rice has been our biggest difference maker from last to this season. Saka has reached the stage where his level of consistency and G/A output is taken for granted by some, and actually deriving some hate from rival fanbases, but it is not slipping past me.
For all of Odegaard's creativity and energy, we look mostly out of attacking ideas if Saka is not playing.
Odegaard was actually having a somewhat underwhelming season for the standards that he set last season up until the last two months. Rice has been our biggest difference maker from last to this season. Saka has reached the stage where his level of consistency and G/A output is taken for granted by some, and actually deriving some hate from rival fanbases, but it is not slipping past me.
For all of Odegaard's creativity and energy, we look mostly out of attacking ideas if Saka is not playing.
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he was always underratedly good at it, but also one area where Saka really improved mostly in this season is his defensive side of the game
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That’s why stats are deceiving. Saying there’s no difference between Saka and Salah is mad
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Salah performs better than Saka in EPL even when Egypt is on AFCON, gtfo
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^^ in what sense "no difference"? Salah is an output machine, in that way he is better than Saka, but in all other areas Saka is better. Stats can be deceiving to some degree, but if it's a clear as daylight difference, claiming invalidity is being disingenuous.
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I also can't use him in eFootball cause he lacks close control and finishing, so that is a negative
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