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Post by futbol Tue 20 May - 13:59

Löw's nominations don't mean much. Guy is clueless.

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Post by danyjr Tue 20 May - 14:44

The Franchise wrote:In other words, he is not as good as Neuer so clearly he is no good.
Forget about Neuer, the German coach prefers Weidenfeller and Zieler to him. Not saying it is a shame to be behind Weidenfeller in the pecking order but you can't be that good a goalkeeper if the coach prefers Zieler to you.
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Post by danyjr Tue 20 May - 14:51

rwo power wrote:Well, Germany has a lot of really good goalkeepers, and Jogi Löw opted to leave the two main U21 NT goalies at home as the future belongs to them anyway. (He also left out some other goalies, who would likely be first choice in other NTs, such as Ralf Fährmann who played a stellar Rückrunde or Oliver Baumann or Kevin Trapp who are no slouches either. Oh, and René Adler would have been an option as well, if he hadn't injured his back badly.)
Admittedly I don't know much German goalkeepers, all I'm saying is not being called up out of 3 goalkeepers for the World Cup doesn't exactly give you confidence in the star signing. I guess we will see.
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Post by danyjr Tue 20 May - 15:02

The Franchise wrote:And btw, would you say the same nonesense if we signed De Gea?
I know the Spanish national team very well while my knowledge of German keepers is limited to say the least. Hence I know that I would pick De Gea over Reina even if the former wasn't invited.

Even then, it is stupid to compare De Gea to Ter Stegen. De Gea is an established goalkeeper playing for a top club for a few years now while Ter Stegen is a relatively unknown goalkeeper at least outside Germany.
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Post by rwo power Tue 20 May - 15:13

danyjr wrote:Forget about Neuer, the German coach prefers Weidenfeller and Zieler to him. Not saying it is a shame to be behind Weidenfeller in the pecking order but you can't be that good a goalkeeper if the coach prefers Zieler to you.
Actually it is probably only Jogi Löw who prefers Ron-Robert Zieler to MAtS... You know, Jogi's the guy who also shuns Stephan Kießling and never calls him up despite Kießling being Germany's top goalscorer of 2013...

danyjr wrote:Even then, it is stupid to compare De Gea to Ter Stegen. De Gea is an established goalkeeper playing for a top club for a few years now while Ter Stegen is a relatively unknown goalkeeper at least outside Germany.
If he isn't known so much outside of Germany that just shows the ignorance of the people who don't look over the border of their own plate (to use a German figure of speech). In Germany,

MAtS is considered one of the very top GKs for a while and it is only because he is still so young, that he was preferably used in the U21 (although there he had quite some competition in Kevin Trapp and Oliver Baumann who were slightly older and thus had seniority there), just like Bernd Leno. MAtS and Leno also had a big rivalry while they were in the U17, where they became U17 world champions, btw.
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Post by Donuts Tue 20 May - 15:21

I see Ter Stegen more of a future buy, his current talent is from what i've seen lower then Valdes, but he is only 22 it is logical for Low to only pick experienced players let alone ones that have been in the team since the world cup qualifiers.
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Post by rwo power Tue 20 May - 15:28

Well, Löw's choice of Ron-Robert Zieler over MAtS caused quite some incredulity and facepalms among most people here in Germany. The consensus of about every sane football fan and expert is that MAtS would have been the better choice. (Or when going for form alone, probably Ralf Fährmann, but as he was never even near the NT yet, it is at least understandable while Ralle wasn't chosen.)
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Post by The Franchise Wed 21 May - 4:34

danyjr wrote:
The Franchise wrote:And btw, would you say the same nonesense if we signed De Gea?
I know the Spanish national team very well while my knowledge of German keepers is limited to say the least. Hence I know that I would pick De Gea over Reina even if the former wasn't invited.

Even then, it is stupid to compare De Gea to Ter Stegen. De Gea is an established goalkeeper playing for a top club for a few years now while Ter Stegen is a relatively unknown goalkeeper at least outside Germany.

So you know nothing about German goalies and yet you are negative on a guy (you dont know) because he plays behind a guy (you again dont know).

Makes sense.

Wasnt comparing De Gea and him anyway, only the obvious logical flaw you used and how it can be applied to other obviously good goalies.
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Post by larisano_is_back Wed 21 May - 18:54

Pretty sure MATS is rated as no.2 GK in Germany for the past season for sure.
Not picking him for the WC doesn't change that. Don't see why so much importance is placed on who is second and third keeper in any case. Germany does have alot of choice and the coach has his own preferences clearly.
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Post by Winter is Coming Thu 22 May - 21:34

Ter Stegen, aged 22, was unveiled as a Barcelona player today, Thursday, at the Auditori 1899. "I think I have taken the right step. I'm happy that everything's gone so well. Barça have made it clear right from the start how important I'm going to be. I'm delighted; Barcelona have placed their trust in me for these years. This is a fantastic club. There was never another option for me," remarked the new keeper.

Before his presentation, Ter Stegen signed his contract with Barcelona until 2019. The signing took place in the Nou Camp presidential box. The keeper was accompanied by Bartomeu and Jordi Mestre.

The shot-stopper arrived in Barcelona at 12:15 pm accompanied by family and friends, and immediately headed to the 'Azulgana' installations.

The Catalan club has revealed that the signing cost €12 million and the goalkeeper has a release clause of €80 million. "You don't get an offer like this every day. Barça is one of the biggest clubs in the world. They play exciting football and have had great success," assured Ter Stegen.

The German said that his inspiration has always been Oliver Kahn, but he also had great praise for his predecessor, Víctor Valdés: "He is an extraordinary goalkeeper. He has done a lot for this club, won titles, performed very well… but I'm focussing on my job."

Ter Stegen, who has not received a call-up for the World Cup, assured that he fully understands the responsibility involved in defending the Nou Camp goalmouth. "It is one of the best things that can happen to you and I will do everything I can to perform well. Coming to this club is a dream come true. I've taken a step forward."
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Post by Winter is Coming Thu 22 May - 21:34

New Barcelona goalkeeper Marc-Andre ter Stegen says that he is fulfilling his dream by signing for the Spanish giants.

The Germany international's long-awaited move to the Catalan club was confirmed in May as they look to replace Victor Valdes, who is set to leave this summer.

"I'm fulfilling my dream," he told Kicker.

"This is the right move for me. If all goes well, I can play for many years at Barcelona. Of course you have a certain respect for this new phase of life.

"I certainly wouldn't have decided to go before."

Ter Stegen's immediate aim is to settle into life at Camp Nou, having spent his entire career to date with hometown club Borussia Monchengladbach.

"For me, the important thing now is settling at Barcelona," he remarked. "I'm happy to have new team-mates and learn a new language."

The 22-year-old was not included in Germany coach's Joachim Low's 30-man preliminary squad for this summer's World Cup.
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Post by rwo power Thu 22 May - 23:49

By the way, MAtS is currently at stand-by for the German NT. If Manuel Neuer's injury is too bad after all, he will goto Brazil for him.
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Post by The Franchise Fri 23 May - 7:23

Is it me, or is 12m a pretty good price for someone his age and standing in the game?
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Post by futbol Fri 23 May - 8:17

It is really good. De Gea cost € 20M. Courtois would be even more expensive right now.

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Post by Donuts Fri 23 May - 12:48

12m was a bargain for one of the leading names in young keepers.
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Post by Donuts Fri 23 May - 15:59

his spanish is not too bad, even if he probably memorized and rehearsed it alot haha
you can see that the club put him next to Afellay in the locker room to welcome him as-well which is a nice small touch.
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Post by rwo power Fri 23 May - 16:24

Why didn't they put a number to his shirt, though? Isn't he the Nr.1? hmm
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Post by Donuts Fri 23 May - 16:26

not sure, maybe it'll be changed once valdes officially leaves or the training season starts.
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Post by futbol Fri 23 May - 16:29

Valdes is officially still #1 until June 1. Nerman didn't have a number either when he was presented.

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Post by rwo power Fri 23 May - 16:39

Ah, I see. Thank you! Smile
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Post by futbol Fri 23 May - 16:46

Will you watch more Barca games from now on, rwo? Proud

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Post by rwo power Fri 23 May - 17:34

Well, maybe one or the other. My first priority after RWO will be Borussia M'gladbach now, though Very Happy
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Post by neuro11 Fri 23 May - 20:00

rwo power wrote:Why didn't they put a number to his shirt, though? Isn't he the Nr.1? hmm
May be we are still considering Courtois  :coffee: . You know Zubi is specialists in doing unnecessery things Laughing 

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Post by rwo power Tue 2 Sep - 15:08

How do you see Marc-André ter Stegen's outlook at Barca now that he missed the first matches and that the coach who originally supported his transfer has gone? Will he have to queue up behind Claudio Bravo indefinitely now?
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Post by windkick Tue 2 Sep - 16:42

MaTs was brought in to be our main guy, and will be our regular starter soon enough. He's been mia due to injury, but he looked far superior to Bravo in preseason and I'm sure the club knows this
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