Would Fabregas get into Juves midfield?

This thread is idiotic seriously, this is like asking would Özil get into Juve's trio midfield? OF COURSE NO, because Juve don't play with an AM and it's not his role to defend, but Conte and every other coach would change his system to not let him in the bench. Same for Fabregas and every great player.

Boy, do I know how to turn up late to the party. In a three man midfield, Fabregas simply doesn't offer what is required, regardless of his obvious quality. The issue of 'unbalancing' the side through his inclusion may very well be relevant to his place in Barcelona, however as has been mentioned many times, they are different systems. Fabregas wasn't the sole reason for Barcelona stumbling at times, though I'd argue he was significant, however the consequences for altering the system around Fabregas are minimal in my eyes compared to Pep's side.

Altering the system as it has been termed doesn't represent the displacement of the likes of Messi, Alves, Sanchez and others as happened when a place for Cesc was somehow thought necessary. Fabregas' inclusion wouldn't necessarily detrimentally affect the functioning of MVP. Fabregas ideally occupies a role that Juventus haven't embraced recently with any great success, however for a player of his quality they'd take the risk. He'd only ever function in a deeper role in the absence of Pirlo however, I hardly believe there's an argument on that issue. I do however take reservation with the idea that Fabregas would only be of use when played significantly higher, though this would be the only option should Conte persist with the 3-5-2. Persisting with such in the light of Cesc's arrival should not be taken for granted however.

There's been a lot of really unnecessary aggression in this thread, just reading through it. In other words, it's the transfer window season and there's a lull in the news.

urbaNRoots wrote:This thread is idiotic seriously, this is like asking would Özil get into Juve's trio midfield? OF COURSE NO, because Juve don't play with an AM and it's not his role to defend, but Conte and every other coach would change his system to not let him in the bench. Same for Fabregas and every great player.

I agree about the idea of the thread, i also dont know why i keep repeating myself, perhaps i'm just incredibly bored

But i don't agree about changing the system to fit him in...... balance is more important than having as many stars as possible.

The system is more important than how many good players you have..... just ask Madrid fans about the Galactico's

But Juve would'nt buy him anyways, because he doesn't fit so it really doesn't matter.

I really don't understand this talk about changing system's for one player especially when said system has been successful it's just simply stupid really.

I agree that they shouldn't but they do it lol Del Bosque did it, Guardiola did it, Ferguson will probably do it with Kagawa etc... sometimes it works sometimes not.

Reading this thread I get the impression that Zidane wouldn't make this Juve midfield

Well Juve did sell him

Also i'd argue Man Utd's is'nt really that successful as in the European stage they know they need to change.

4-4-2 is out-dated etc etc

Also id argue that Del Bosque is crazy lol and Pep made a mistake IMO.

urbaNRoots wrote:I agree that they shouldn't but they do it lol Del Bosque did it, Guardiola did it, Ferguson will probably do it with Kagawa etc... sometimes it works sometimes not.

Reading this thread I get the impression that Zidane wouldn't make this Juve midfield

Again you are just calling names. Would Zidane be able to bench Xavi for Barcelona? Hell no. Not because Xavi is miles ahead of him, but because Xavi is far better at dictating the game from CM than Zidane ever was. Under Juves current set up, Fab wouldnt be able to get in, end of stroy. The sytem is already set up for a superior player. Teams built round Cesc have flopped, Arsenal and then he went to Barcelona....

Why would a team that went unbeaten, and is built round Pilro be changed to accomodate Cecs? Pirlo needs two runners.


And as for Zidane, Zidane needed 3 Holding mfs in Juventus and needed Makelele at RM. Did you watch him play at all. The way Juventuis play atm, if he doesnt play AM he would not be able to play under the current set up. End of story, all this change this and that. The question was would he get in under the current set up, the answer is clearly no. Arsenal fans as usual trying to create alternate realities to suit them. Farce.

So Zidane, Xavi, Ozil, Iniesta etc etc wouldn't get into the team because they don't have the required work rate?

Does anyone actually think this is NOT a profoundly stupid thread?

If we all know that these great players would find a way to be included in the setup and likely become some sort of focal point (most in attack) of the team, why does it matter that they don't fit into the midfield simply because there is no position for them.

Explain to me why this thread matters.

mtfootball wrote:So Zidane, Xavi, Ozil, Iniesta etc etc wouldn't get into the team because they don't have the required work rate?

Ozil, the same guy that can't even last 90 minutes will get into Juves three man MF? What? As explained this isnt FIFA UNDER THE CURRENT SET UP...NO!

Is it that hard to udnerstand. NExt thing you'll be asking me whether Maradona could replace Iker for Madrid. FML

Le Samourai wrote:Does anyone actually think this is NOT a profoundly stupid thread?

If we all know that these great players would find a way to be included in the setup and likely become some sort of focal point (most in attack) of the team, why does it matter that they don't fit into the midfield simply because there is no position for them.

Explain to me why this thread matters.

explain to me why any thread matters. Someone created a thread we respond, thats what we do in forums. I you dint want to get involved, simply refrain from typing about how you dont give a shit. This is the most pointless post Ive seen here.

God why is this so hard to understand lol.....

If you find a better Regista than Pirlo than yeah that player would get in..... if you find a better all round b2b complete mid's than Vidal and Marchisio that he would get in.

Because there's a supreme talents out there dont mean you get rid of what makes your team work to fit him in it's just idiotic.

And Le Sam the thread does'nt matter lol, i do actually think the idea behind the thread is a bit stupid.... i'm just responding to the comments that make my brain hurt lol.

jibers wrote:

urbaNRoots wrote:I agree that they shouldn't but they do it lol Del Bosque did it, Guardiola did it, Ferguson will probably do it with Kagawa etc... sometimes it works sometimes not.

Reading this thread I get the impression that Zidane wouldn't make this Juve midfield

Again you are just calling names. Would Zidane be able to bench Xavi for Barcelona? Hell no. Not because Xavi is miles ahead of him, but because Xavi is far better at dictating the game from CM than Zidane ever was. Under Juves current set up, Fab wouldnt be able to get in, end of stroy. The sytem is already set up for a superior player. Teams built round Cesc have flopped, Arsenal and then he went to Barcelona....

Why would a team that went unbeaten, and is built round Pilro be changed to accomodate Cecs? Pirlo needs two runners.


And as for Zidane, Zidane needed 3 Holding mfs in Juventus and needed Makelele at RM. Did you watch him play at all. The way Juventuis play atm, if he doesnt play AM he would not be able to play under the current set up. End of story, all this change this and that. The question was would he get in under the current set up, the answer is clearly no. Arsenal fans as usual trying to create alternate realities to suit them. Farce.

Zidane wouldn't bench Xavi. But he would play for sure. Two different players which could play together, same as Marchisio and Cesc.

And I agree that under this set-up Fabregas wouldn't get in, not Fabregas but Özil and every other AM. There's no place for an AM simple as that.

All I'm saying is that Fabregas would play higher and that his inclusion doesn't effect the trio midfield at all. Pirlo would still have two-runners.

The question wasn't "would he get into trio Juventus midfield" but it was "Would Fabregas get into Juve's midfield" two different question which have two different answers. He wouldn't get into the trio not him not Özil not because they don't have talent but because they're not box-to-box midfielders, why is it so hard to understand for you.

urbaNRoots wrote:

jibers wrote:

urbaNRoots wrote:I agree that they shouldn't but they do it lol Del Bosque did it, Guardiola did it, Ferguson will probably do it with Kagawa etc... sometimes it works sometimes not.

Reading this thread I get the impression that Zidane wouldn't make this Juve midfield

Again you are just calling names. Would Zidane be able to bench Xavi for Barcelona? Hell no. Not because Xavi is miles ahead of him, but because Xavi is far better at dictating the game from CM than Zidane ever was. Under Juves current set up, Fab wouldnt be able to get in, end of stroy. The sytem is already set up for a superior player. Teams built round Cesc have flopped, Arsenal and then he went to Barcelona....

Why would a team that went unbeaten, and is built round Pilro be changed to accomodate Cecs? Pirlo needs two runners.


And as for Zidane, Zidane needed 3 Holding mfs in Juventus and needed Makelele at RM. Did you watch him play at all. The way Juventuis play atm, if he doesnt play AM he would not be able to play under the current set up. End of story, all this change this and that. The question was would he get in under the current set up, the answer is clearly no. Arsenal fans as usual trying to create alternate realities to suit them. Farce.

Zidane wouldn't bench Xavi. But he would play for sure.

And I agree that under this set-up Fabregas wouldn't get in, not Fabregas but Özil and every other AM. There's no place for an AM simple as that.

All I'm saying is that Fabregas would play higher and that his inclusion doesn't effect the trio midfield at all. Pirlo would still have two-runners.

The question wasn't "would he get into trio Juventus midfield" but it was "Would Fabregas get into Juve's midfield" two different question which have two different answers. He wouldn't get into the trio not him not Özil not because they don't have talent but because they're not box-to-box midfielders, why is it so hard to understand for you.

Dude Mole and I already said that he could play in the SS or AM behind a striker, but not part of the three man mf. That is all.

jibers wrote:

mtfootball wrote:So Zidane, Xavi, Ozil, Iniesta etc etc wouldn't get into the team because they don't have the required work rate?

Ozil, the same guy that can't even last 90 minutes will get into Juves three man MF? What? As explained this isnt FIFA UNDER THE CURRENT SET UP...NO!

Is it that hard to udnerstand. NExt thing you'll be asking me whether Maradona could replace Iker for Madrid. FML

So Juve's 3 man midfield is the best ever and no one would get into it because they don't have the required work rate?

mtfootball wrote:

jibers wrote:

mtfootball wrote:So Zidane, Xavi, Ozil, Iniesta etc etc wouldn't get into the team because they don't have the required work rate?

Ozil, the same guy that can't even last 90 minutes will get into Juves three man MF? What? As explained this isnt FIFA UNDER THE CURRENT SET UP...NO!

Is it that hard to udnerstand. NExt thing you'll be asking me whether Maradona could replace Iker for Madrid. FML

So Juve's 3 man midfield is the best ever and no one would get into it because they don't have the required work rate?

No, just no. If you can get me a better player that plays in Pirlo's position than sure he'll break into the midfield. The same with Marchisio and Vidal. If you can get me somebody who can play better in THEIR POSITION, then yes he'll play instead of Marchisio/Vidal. It's obvious, I don't know what is so hard to understand.

The players you mentioned, like Zidane and Oezil, don't fit because they are AMs, they can't play in that 3-man mid because they can't offer what Marchisio and Vidal can.

mtfootball wrote:

jibers wrote:

mtfootball wrote:So Zidane, Xavi, Ozil, Iniesta etc etc wouldn't get into the team because they don't have the required work rate?

Ozil, the same guy that can't even last 90 minutes will get into Juves three man MF? What? As explained this isnt FIFA UNDER THE CURRENT SET UP...NO!

Is it that hard to udnerstand. NExt thing you'll be asking me whether Maradona could replace Iker for Madrid. FML

So Juve's 3 man midfield is the best ever and no one would get into it because they don't have the required work rate?

Its not about being the best ever ffs. Are you seriously this stupid? They need specific players to fit their sytem, just like a player like Pirlo did not fit into Allegris plan the season before he left Milan. As I said before, Alonso, Xavi, Khedira, Bender etc are the only type of players that can fit inunder Contes current set up. For Old players, Viera, Keane, Essien etc.

7amood11 wrote:

mtfootball wrote:

jibers wrote:

mtfootball wrote:So Zidane, Xavi, Ozil, Iniesta etc etc wouldn't get into the team because they don't have the required work rate?

Ozil, the same guy that can't even last 90 minutes will get into Juves three man MF? What? As explained this isnt FIFA UNDER THE CURRENT SET UP...NO!

Is it that hard to udnerstand. NExt thing you'll be asking me whether Maradona could replace Iker for Madrid. FML

So Juve's 3 man midfield is the best ever and no one would get into it because they don't have the required work rate?

No, just no. If you can get me a better player that plays in Pirlo's position than sure he'll break into the midfield. The same with Marchisio and Vidal. If you can get me somebody who can play better in THEIR POSITION, then yes he'll play instead of Marchisio/Vidal. It's obvious, I don't know what is so hard to understand.

The players you mentioned, like Zidane and Oezil, don't fit because they are AMs, they can't play in that 3-man mid because they can't offer what Marchisio and Vidal can.

It's as if half of this forum is brain dead ffs

7amood11 wrote:

mtfootball wrote:

jibers wrote:

mtfootball wrote:So Zidane, Xavi, Ozil, Iniesta etc etc wouldn't get into the team because they don't have the required work rate?

Ozil, the same guy that can't even last 90 minutes will get into Juves three man MF? What? As explained this isnt FIFA UNDER THE CURRENT SET UP...NO!

Is it that hard to udnerstand. NExt thing you'll be asking me whether Maradona could replace Iker for Madrid. FML

So Juve's 3 man midfield is the best ever and no one would get into it because they don't have the required work rate?

No, just no. If you can get me a better player that plays in Pirlo's position than sure he'll break into the midfield. The same with Marchisio and Vidal. If you can get me somebody who can play better in THEIR POSITION, then yes he'll play instead of Marchisio/Vidal. It's obvious, I don't know what is so hard to understand.

The players you mentioned, like Zidane and Oezil, don't fit because they are AMs, they can't play in that 3-man mid because they can't offer what Marchisio and Vidal can.

Yeh but what if Juve had Ozil and Zidane at their disposal? Would they be on the bench?

Schweini wrote:By this logic, Cesc won't get into Stoke's midfield either because he doesn't do throw ins of Delap or does the defensive work of Dean Whitehead.

Rory Delap > Iniesta
Magnificent reasoning being used in this thread

Why are you still trying to argue with these people

tony pulis would reject ozil as well in that case

So it's turned form will Cecs get into Juves MF to calling out players like Ozil. I'm done. As mole said you guys are living in FIFA world. I'm out.

RealGunner wrote:tony pulis would reject ozil as well in that case

Actually I can't think of a single player on Barcelona's squad that would get into Stoke's first XI tbh

They just don't fit into Stoke's system tbh


Seriously this thread

but you are living in FIFA world bhends

Bench Cex for "The Invisible Man" Marchisio

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:

RealGunner wrote:tony pulis would reject ozil as well in that case

Actually I can't think of a single player on Barcelona's squad that would get into Stoke's first XI tbh

They just don't fit into Stoke's system tbh


Seriously this thread

Totally different argument..... Stoke would change thier entire way of playing to fit them in as they dont have a successful system that has won them trophies....

Juventus have.

The fact you believe what your saying is ridiculous.... this is'nt Fifa ffs.

What your saying is the Galatico mentality ffs.... putting all the best players together in the hope it would work

Let's all buy drop DM's for AM's ! because that worked for Rijkaard did'nt it

They finished 3rd didnt they ?

Juve's systems overrated here. Doesn't matter if they won Serie A with no competition. They'd have to change their system with Fabregas, Ozil etc.