Casillas could have definitely saved this one... Why does he go on the ground so quick? Neuer would have kept on his feet like he does most of the times...

youtube . com/watch?v=PMvNTIlCcyc

FC_Hollywood wrote:Casillas could have definitely saved this one... Why does he go on the ground so quick? Neuer would have kept on his feet like he does most of the times...

youtube . com/watch?v=PMvNTIlCcyc

TYPICAL CASILAS VS MESSI, CASILAS GOES DOWN AND MESSI CHIP HIM OVER, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME

Idrisozet wrote:Legends are Goalkeepers like, Peter Schmeichel, Kahn,Yashin, Sepp Maier and Buffon, no one dispute that

And don't forget Dino Zoff!

1:22 Messi chipped him while he was standing this time.

Spamming


Buffon selected as Best goal keeper of last 25 years upto date.


Goalkeeper ........National...... Points

1. Gianluigi Buffon Italia 209

2. Iker Casillas España 193

3. Edwin van der Sar Nederland 190

4. Peter Schmeichel Danmark 179

5. Oliver Kahn Deutschland 162

6. José Luis Félix Chilavert Paraguay 146

7. Petr Čech Česká Republika 138

8. Walter Zenga Italia 132


Andoni Zubizarreta España 132

10. Claudio André Mergen Taffarel Brasil 130

11. Michel Preud’homme Belgique 124

12. Fabien Barthez France 115

13. David Seaman England 114

14. Nélson de Jesus e Silva »Dida« Brasil 109

15. Vítor Manuel Martins Baía Portugal 94

16. Gianluca Pagliuca Italia 90

17. Francesco Toldo Italia 82

18. Jens Lehmann Deutschland 81

19. Bodo Illgner Deutschland 71


Johannes Franciscus van Breukelen Nederland 71

21. Roberto Carlos Abbondanzieri Argentina 68

22. Sergio Javier Goycochea Argentina 66

23. Andreas Köpke Deutschland 64


Víctor Valdés España 64

25. Júlio César Soãres Espíndola Brasil 63

26. Jorge Campos México 62


Peter Shilton England 62

28. Thomas Ravelli Sverige 61

29. Rinat Dasaev Russia 57

30. Angelo Peruzzi Italia 56


Neville Southall Wales 56

32. José Manuel Reina España 54

33. Rogério Ceni Brasil 53

34. José Santiago Cañizares España 51

35. Jean-Marie Pfaff Belgique 49

36. Jerzy Dudek Polska 48

37. Igor Akinfeev Russia 47

38. Óscar Eduardo Córdoba Colombia 38


Bernard Lama France 38

40. Patrick Bonner Ireland 36


Timothy Matthew Howard USA 36

42. Dmitry Kharin Russia 33

43. Sebastiano Rossi Italia 32

44. Grégory Coupet France 28


Harald Schumacher Deutschland 28

46. Rüstü Reçber Türkiye 27

47. Luis Gabelo Conejo Costa Rica 26


Armelino Donizetti Quagliato »Zetti« Brasil 26

49. José Francisco Cevallos Ecuador 25

50. Andonios Nikopolidis Hellas 24


Erik Thorstvedt Norge 24

Just let him win the Euros and the World Cup, then things will look different

I was just responding to some idiot who said iker is just a madrid legend..lol

Iker is up there in all time top 5.

And the Germans here say Bayern and Germany is HIGHLY underrated. Spare it.


The posts here especially by this clown Idriozet are laughable at best.

Iker not a leader or good communicator?

Villa not proven before Barca. Massive

Iker the reason Madrid haven't won titles? Astronomical face palm.


Soon Neuer will be the best striker and goal keeper of all time within months right?

Do I have to point out his daft mistakes?

Please don't go any further before you embarrass yourself.

What an massive failure in arguments here.

Arquitecto wrote:Soon Neuer will be the best striker and goal keeper of all time within months right?

Best striker will be difficult. Rogério Ceni has that honour

Arquitecto wrote:
Villa not proven before Barca. Massive

What an massive failure in arguments here.

Well that comment was by me and i was just using a great logic used by some Madrid fan.

If Neuer is not proven player regardless of how good he has been for Germany and Schakle (for last 3-4 seasons) because he wasnt playing for a European gaint.Wouldnt that mean Villa is not a proven player regardless of what he did for Spain or Valencia in CL.Because he wasnt playing for a major big club until he joined Barca.

I never said Villa is unproven or believe he is just to claricy of my comment being misinterpreted.I was using some stupid logic used by a Madrid fan to degrade Neuer.

Arquitecto wrote:And the Germans here say Bayern and Germany is HIGHLY underrated. Spare it.


The posts here especially by this clown Idriozet are laughable at best.

Iker not a leader or good communicator?

Villa not proven before Barca. Massive

Iker the reason Madrid haven't won titles? Astronomical face palm.


Soon Neuer will be the best striker and goal keeper of all time within months right?

Do I have to point out his daft mistakes?

Please don't go any further before you embarrass yourself.

What an massive failure in arguments here.

So true arq +1

actually any of the point they showed up are not even worth responding.

BeautifulGame wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:
Villa not proven before Barca. Massive

What an massive failure in arguments here.

Well that comment was by me and i was just using a great logic used by some Madrid fan.

If Neuer is not proven player regardless of how good he has been for Germany and Schakle (for last 3-4 seasons) because he wasnt playing for a European gaint.Wouldnt that mean Villa is not a proven player regardless of what he did for Spain or Valencia in CL.Because he wasnt playing for a major big club until he joined Barca.

I never said Villa is unproven or believe he is just to claricy of my comment being misinterpreted.I was using some stupid logic used by a Madrid fan to degrade Neuer.

LOL it was you?

If I knew that then I would've thought that there was some reason behind that post. Well I can understand your logic attack on RM fans there.

Neuer? Never really commented on him to be frank, more on Casillas.

I for one believe Neuer is proven and is world class.

But he has not done anything near what Casillas has done and has much more to prove atm.

In his form he may be better but then again Abbiati was better then most last year yet is not world class.

No one mentioned him at all despite his superb magnificence for Milan last year.

The comments here are fallacious and superbly premature. VivaStPaul would agree with me as well as his opinion would qualify since he is German.

This clown idriozet is not really convincing anyone but himself and a few Bayern fans.

what are we discussing??? diego alves>>>>>neuer ffs

///discussion

Arquitecto wrote:

BeautifulGame wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:
Villa not proven before Barca. Massive

What an massive failure in arguments here.

Well that comment was by me and i was just using a great logic used by some Madrid fan.

If Neuer is not proven player regardless of how good he has been for Germany and Schakle (for last 3-4 seasons) because he wasnt playing for a European gaint.Wouldnt that mean Villa is not a proven player regardless of what he did for Spain or Valencia in CL.Because he wasnt playing for a major big club until he joined Barca.

I never said Villa is unproven or believe he is just to claricy of my comment being misinterpreted.I was using some stupid logic used by a Madrid fan to degrade Neuer.

LOL it was you?

If I knew that then I would've thought that there was some reason behind that post. Well I can understand your logic attack on RM fans there.

Neuer? Never really commented on him to be frank, more on Casillas.

I for one believe Neuer is proven and is world class.

But he has not done anything near what Casillas has done and has much more to prove atm.

In his form he may be better but then again Abbiati was better then most last year yet is not world class.

No one mentioned him at all despite his superb magnificence for Milan last year.

The comments here are fallacious and superbly premature. VivaStPaul would agree with me as well as his opinion would qualify since he is German.

This clown idriozet is not really convincing anyone but himself and a few Bayern fans.

I agree he isnt anywhere near Casillas in terms of greatness (which would be ridiculous to claim) or that he has surpassed Casillas.

But for me atleast he is the best Keeper in the world atm and is certainly proven and world class.

Arquitecto wrote:And the Germans here say Bayern and Germany is HIGHLY underrated. Spare it.


The posts here especially by this clown Idriozet are laughable at best.

Iker not a leader or good communicator?

Villa not proven before Barca. Massive

Iker the reason Madrid haven't won titles? Astronomical face palm.


Soon Neuer will be the best striker and goal keeper of all time within months right?

Do I have to point out his daft mistakes?

Please don't go any further before you embarrass yourself.

What an massive failure in arguments here.

You sir is an Idiot.

First of all: Casilas has no Good communication that is pretty obvious even Madrid fans will accept that, he can not control his defense.

By the way I didn't say that A Real Madrid fans said it.


2nd: Iker the reason Madrid haven't won titles?

I didn't say that, a Madrid fan said so.

Villa not proven before Barca. Massive

I didn't even mention Villa.

Excuse me sir, are you an idiot....?

Arquitecto wrote:And the Germans here say Bayern and Germany is HIGHLY underrated. Spare it.


The posts here especially by this clown Idriozet are laughable at best.

Iker not a leader or good communicator?

Villa not proven before Barca. Massive

Iker the reason Madrid haven't won titles? Astronomical face palm.


Soon Neuer will be the best striker and goal keeper of all time within months right?

Do I have to point out his daft mistakes?

Please don't go any further before you embarrass yourself.

What an massive failure in arguments here.

Here dumb Idiot, here is the link to Huntsman testimony, his a Madrid fan and I clearly said that in my post that it was a Madrid fan who said so.

Some people who read between thin lines can be retarded.

Stop embarrassing yourself, dont jump into something you dont know where it started from, what an idiot you are.
https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t9740p198-oliver-kahn-an-impenetrable-fortress

which real madrid fans said?

Adit wrote:which real madrid fans said?

Huntsman

Click on the link below.

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t9740p198-oliver-kahn-an-impenetrable-fortress

Idrisozet wrote:
Here dumb Idiot, here is the link to Huntsman testimony, his a Madrid fan and I clearly said that in my post that it was a Madrid fan who said so.


https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t9740p198-oliver-kahn-an-impenetrable-fortress

people quoting huntsman to prove a point

Hunstman.

This guy's actually taking huntsman's comments seriously .

Adit wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:
Here dumb Idiot, here is the link to Huntsman testimony, his a Madrid fan and I clearly said that in my post that it was a Madrid fan who said so.


https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t9740p198-oliver-kahn-an-impenetrable-fortress

people quoting huntsman to prove a point

His a Madrid fan and I respect his opinion.

By the way I only brought up Hunts man, when that retarded idiot decided to have a go at me.

that guy got banned for his retarded posts alone...haha this is great

Lol if some has to depend huntsmans post to degrade iker i wonder how much football knowledge that guy has LOL

Adit wrote:Lol if some has to depend huntsmans post to degrade iker i wonder how much football knowledge that guy has LOL

I am not the type that likes writing articles to pass my point through but I guess I have to do that now so you can have a better ideal of what I am talking about, since you can not figure it out yourself.

I usually just give short and thin answers or reply because I understand that people who don't sincerelly share or have thesame interest with you will never accept your opinion regardless of how much you try to convince them.

1 or 2 words its all the same to them.

But anyways

First of all I will like to draw a distinction between a players ability(Goalkeeping skills, attribute, ability. etc) and a players achievement(Winning tittles, Appearance, Cap, name etc).

Achievement
We all know that Casilas has achieved a lot playing with one of the greatest football team of all time(Madrid) and as a result he has won some tittle with madrid and Numerous tittle with Spain(Barcelona). However it is debatable that Madrid should have won more tittles than they have won in the last 8 years considering the huge amount of money they spent over the last years.

Casilas has played for Madrid for quite a long time now, and as a result it is expected that he should have more tittles to his name than Neuer, he won numerous tittle with Spainish national team, filled with Barcalona world-class players.

Personally like someone said even Julio Ceaser would have won all those tittles if he happens to have played for Spain National team for that long, as well as Madrid and people will consider him a legend based on the tittle he has won.(Fair enough)

On the other hand Neuer is far behind Casilas in terms of achievement, name, appearance and such and such. Most of his career Neuer has played for a team that is relatively unknown to many,(Schalke) when compared to madrid and perhaps one level or even 2 level below Madrid class but yet he has managed to excell and built a good name for himself, he has recieved praises from some of football legends like Sir Alex Ferguson, Kaiser, Boffun and Kahn.

Alex Ferguson describe his Goalkeeping ability as the best he has seen during his time as a manager.

Kaiser compared his goalkeeping ability to Messi's, as outfield players.

To cut the long story short, Casilas is a great Goalkeeper, he has achieved a lot over the past years, the whole world knows this, I know it and I am not disputing on that and I dont need you to prove it to me that he has achieve more than Neuer.

But when it comes down to Goalkeeping ability, from what I have seen I think Neuer has surpassed Casilas Goalkeeping ability even when he was at his peak but Neuer has definitely not surpass his achievement, we already know that and he might probably never surpas Casilas Achievement.

Interms of achievement Casilas has achieve more than legendary goalkeepers like Kahn and Peter Schmeichel but that does not make him as good as those goalkeepers in terms of their ability.

Thank you.

free_cat wrote:He is really a great goalkeeper. Only thing I don't like abou Neuer is that he should block the ball more, tends to clear out a lot. He really is above Casillas and in the same level than Victor Valdes.

Sushi Master wrote:Damn, I miss when Bayern87 used to post a lot.

I miss the old days too.
But life changed a lot

Thanks for remembering me from time to time mate.