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I don't think it's great, I'm getting down-voted everywhere...jibers wrote:jiopsi is back to form, just waiting for xabi to read this then we'll have a show on our hands. Best last 2 days in the forum by a mile, let's see if we can keep it up...
I hate Barca-Madrid sections.
SOMEONE MOVE THIS TO THE RB SECTION.
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I still think this is a good thread though, I wouldn't say it should be locked.
I would like to carry on discussing what constitutes a legitimate penalty. Admittedly, there are members from the Real Madrid and Barca sections that are just to passionate and emotional for a thread like this.
If we keep the discussion logical, it could be a really good thread.
I would like to carry on discussing what constitutes a legitimate penalty. Admittedly, there are members from the Real Madrid and Barca sections that are just to passionate and emotional for a thread like this.
If we keep the discussion logical, it could be a really good thread.
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I AGREE, JUST STOP DOWN-VOTING ME.Giovanni10 wrote:I still think this is a good thread though, I wouldn't say it should be locked.
I would like to carry on discussing what constitutes a legitimate penalty. Admittedly, there are members from the Real Madrid and Barca sections that are just to passionate and emotional for a thread like this.
If we keep the discussion logical, it could be a really good thread.
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Well I certainly have not done any neg repping...
I don't neg rep on opinions, I neg rep false facts only.
I don't neg rep on opinions, I neg rep false facts only.
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This forum is starting to become a joke with this crap. ._.
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Well its been a while now, and I still haven't received a response to my argument about the 3rd Barca penalty claim.
I suppose I should know better than to make a sensible argument in the general section. It's obvious now that the whole point of this thread was only a troll - that has appeared to have backfired.
I was actually getting amped to discuss penalty calls in general.
I suppose I should know better than to make a sensible argument in the general section. It's obvious now that the whole point of this thread was only a troll - that has appeared to have backfired.
I was actually getting amped to discuss penalty calls in general.
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How do you know when you've been neg repd?
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If it's red on the right hand side of the post. There's a bar thing. If its green, you got rep'd up. If it's just white, nothing.
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Just watch the clip more carefully, Messi get kicked in the achillestendon so hard that the other player falls down. Nothing happens to Messi? If you watch it you can see Messis right leg makes a swinging movement because of it, and it breaks down his rhythm. That is a clear foul, and penalty should have been given. Red from a such wreckles kick would not have been bad call either.Giovanni10 wrote:To me it appears as though the defender trips himself up in the coming together with Messi. I don't understand how you can use so much "force" in a tackle that you fall over as a result but nothing happens to the opponent? that doesn't make any sense at all, clearly if there was enough contact then he should have gone down as a result, but, and I'll say it again to really drive the point home: he still takes a couple more solid steps before jumping to the ground. those are hardly ever given.
Now you have.Giovanni10 wrote:Well its been a while now, and I still haven't received a response to my argument about the 3rd Barca penalty claim.
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Lmfao, the guy kicked Messi so hard he fell himself, haha.
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jiopsi wrote:Just watch the clip more carefully, Messi get kicked in the achillestendon so hard that the other player falls down. Nothing happens to Messi? If you watch it you can see Messis right leg makes a swinging movement because of it, and it breaks down his rhythm. That is a clear foul, and penalty should have been given. Red from a such wreckles kick would not have been bad call either.Giovanni10 wrote:To me it appears as though the defender trips himself up in the coming together with Messi. I don't understand how you can use so much "force" in a tackle that you fall over as a result but nothing happens to the opponent? that doesn't make any sense at all, clearly if there was enough contact then he should have gone down as a result, but, and I'll say it again to really drive the point home: he still takes a couple more solid steps before jumping to the ground. those are hardly ever given.Now you have.Giovanni10 wrote:Well its been a while now, and I still haven't received a response to my argument about the 3rd Barca penalty claim.
Sorry Jiopsi, I have a big screen, I've used google chrome's zoom function and I have perfect 20/20 vision. I will confirm that you have a case for the 1st and 2nd penalty claims but not the 3rd. There is no real force, there is no tramp, the guy flicks out his leg and then falls because he gets tripped up and tangled a bit with Messi. Think about what you and Lionel Messi have just said: he kicks Messi so hard that he(the defender) falls over. Messiah, is like what? 4ft11 and weighs 55kgs tops? I can see how with full force you can "kick" a brick wall and fall over, but not Messi I'm afraid. The defender goes down because he gets hooked up in the attempted challenge.
I imagine we will not be able to settle this dispute, because you have obviously seen something different to me, so its basically a difference of opinion. The gifs, even though they exclude penalty claims not given for Madrid and ones given to Barca, were still a nice find and therefore I must conclude:
THERE IS A REFEREEING CONSPIRACY IN LA LIGA, IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED THAT FRANCO IS BEHIND IT, HE HAS BEEN CONTACTING THE SPANISH REF ASSOCIATION FROM THE GRAVE
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So you didn't see with your 20/20 vision the swinging movement of Messi right leg? Watch just the right leg, you can see that it effects Messi's balance and completely breaks down his rhythm.Giovanni10 wrote:jiopsi wrote:Just watch the clip more carefully, Messi get kicked in the achillestendon so hard that the other player falls down. Nothing happens to Messi? If you watch it you can see Messis right leg makes a swinging movement because of it, and it breaks down his rhythm. That is a clear foul, and penalty should have been given. Red from a such wreckles kick would not have been bad call either.Giovanni10 wrote:To me it appears as though the defender trips himself up in the coming together with Messi. I don't understand how you can use so much "force" in a tackle that you fall over as a result but nothing happens to the opponent? that doesn't make any sense at all, clearly if there was enough contact then he should have gone down as a result, but, and I'll say it again to really drive the point home: he still takes a couple more solid steps before jumping to the ground. those are hardly ever given.Now you have.Giovanni10 wrote:Well its been a while now, and I still haven't received a response to my argument about the 3rd Barca penalty claim.
Sorry Jiopsi, I have a big screen, I've used google chrome's zoom function and I have perfect 20/20 vision. I will confirm that you have a case for the 1st and 2nd penalty claims but not the 3rd. There is no real force, there is no tramp, the guy flicks out his leg and then falls because he gets tripped up and tangled a bit with Messi. Think about what you and Lionel Messi have just said: he kicks Messi so hard that he(the defender) falls over. Messiah, is like what? 4ft11 and weighs 55kgs tops? I can see how with full force you can "kick" a brick wall and fall over, but not Messi I'm afraid. The defender goes down because he gets hooked up in the attempted challenge.
I imagine we will not be able to settle this dispute, because you have obviously seen something different to me, so its basically a difference of opinion. The gifs, even though they exclude penalty claims not given for Madrid and ones given to Barca, were still a nice find and therefore I must conclude:
Well there is clear pattern here, maybe it will eventually evolve into a factual conspiracy. We'll see.THERE IS A REFEREEING CONSPIRACY IN LA LIGA, IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED THAT FRANCO IS BEHIND IT, HE HAS BEEN CONTACTING THE SPANISH REF ASSOCIATION FROM THE GRAVE
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jiopsi wrote:So you didn't see with your 20/20 vision the swinging movement of Messi right leg? Watch just the right leg, you can see that it effects Messi's balance and completely breaks down his rhythm.Giovanni10 wrote:jiopsi wrote:Just watch the clip more carefully, Messi get kicked in the achillestendon so hard that the other player falls down. Nothing happens to Messi? If you watch it you can see Messis right leg makes a swinging movement because of it, and it breaks down his rhythm. That is a clear foul, and penalty should have been given. Red from a such wreckles kick would not have been bad call either.Giovanni10 wrote:To me it appears as though the defender trips himself up in the coming together with Messi. I don't understand how you can use so much "force" in a tackle that you fall over as a result but nothing happens to the opponent? that doesn't make any sense at all, clearly if there was enough contact then he should have gone down as a result, but, and I'll say it again to really drive the point home: he still takes a couple more solid steps before jumping to the ground. those are hardly ever given.Now you have.Giovanni10 wrote:Well its been a while now, and I still haven't received a response to my argument about the 3rd Barca penalty claim.
Sorry Jiopsi, I have a big screen, I've used google chrome's zoom function and I have perfect 20/20 vision. I will confirm that you have a case for the 1st and 2nd penalty claims but not the 3rd. There is no real force, there is no tramp, the guy flicks out his leg and then falls because he gets tripped up and tangled a bit with Messi. Think about what you and Lionel Messi have just said: he kicks Messi so hard that he(the defender) falls over. Messiah, is like what? 4ft11 and weighs 55kgs tops? I can see how with full force you can "kick" a brick wall and fall over, but not Messi I'm afraid. The defender goes down because he gets hooked up in the attempted challenge.
I imagine we will not be able to settle this dispute, because you have obviously seen something different to me, so its basically a difference of opinion. The gifs, even though they exclude penalty claims not given for Madrid and ones given to Barca, were still a nice find and therefore I must conclude:Well there is clear pattern here, maybe it will eventually evolve in factual conspiracy.THERE IS A REFEREEING CONSPIRACY IN LA LIGA, IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED THAT FRANCO IS BEHIND IT, HE HAS BEEN CONTACTING THE SPANISH REF ASSOCIATION FROM THE GRAVE
I thought you were only kidding about the match-fixing insinuation? You're actually serious? Wow, ok clearly there has been a misunderstanding here, I see no more profit in contributing to this thread.
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LOL @ a penalty being given in the 16th minute when the game is tied 1-1 killing the game off.. You're a fxcking comedian
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Can you still answer, before you bail out, did you see the swinging movement of the right leg?Giovanni10 wrote:jiopsi wrote:So you didn't see with your 20/20 vision the swinging movement of Messi right leg? Watch just the right leg, you can see that it effects Messi's balance and completely breaks down his rhythm.Giovanni10 wrote:jiopsi wrote:Just watch the clip more carefully, Messi get kicked in the achillestendon so hard that the other player falls down. Nothing happens to Messi? If you watch it you can see Messis right leg makes a swinging movement because of it, and it breaks down his rhythm. That is a clear foul, and penalty should have been given. Red from a such wreckles kick would not have been bad call either.Giovanni10 wrote:To me it appears as though the defender trips himself up in the coming together with Messi. I don't understand how you can use so much "force" in a tackle that you fall over as a result but nothing happens to the opponent? that doesn't make any sense at all, clearly if there was enough contact then he should have gone down as a result, but, and I'll say it again to really drive the point home: he still takes a couple more solid steps before jumping to the ground. those are hardly ever given.Now you have.Giovanni10 wrote:Well its been a while now, and I still haven't received a response to my argument about the 3rd Barca penalty claim.
Sorry Jiopsi, I have a big screen, I've used google chrome's zoom function and I have perfect 20/20 vision. I will confirm that you have a case for the 1st and 2nd penalty claims but not the 3rd. There is no real force, there is no tramp, the guy flicks out his leg and then falls because he gets tripped up and tangled a bit with Messi. Think about what you and Lionel Messi have just said: he kicks Messi so hard that he(the defender) falls over. Messiah, is like what? 4ft11 and weighs 55kgs tops? I can see how with full force you can "kick" a brick wall and fall over, but not Messi I'm afraid. The defender goes down because he gets hooked up in the attempted challenge.
I imagine we will not be able to settle this dispute, because you have obviously seen something different to me, so its basically a difference of opinion. The gifs, even though they exclude penalty claims not given for Madrid and ones given to Barca, were still a nice find and therefore I must conclude:Well there is clear pattern here, maybe it will eventually evolve in factual conspiracy.THERE IS A REFEREEING CONSPIRACY IN LA LIGA, IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED THAT FRANCO IS BEHIND IT, HE HAS BEEN CONTACTING THE SPANISH REF ASSOCIATION FROM THE GRAVE
I thought you were only kidding about the match-fixing insinuation? You're actually serious? Wow, ok clearly there has been a misunderstanding here, I see no more profit in contributing to this thread.
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What on earth are you on about, what game do you mean?Swagg_Johnson wrote:LOL @ a penalty being given in the 16th minute when the game is tied 1-1 killing the game off.. You're a fxcking comedian
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I think it's extremely obvious who it is, but since (most) of us live in a world where the legal system abides by the motto "innocent until proven guilty", I won't explicitly name who it is.beatrixasdfghjk. wrote:Which childish troll is down-voting everything?
I give up .
Back on topic... Real Madrid's conspiracy is real, while Barcelona's is not, and the whole world agrees with that.
There, you happy Jiopsi (and anyone else on his boat)?
Now can we please /thread?
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jiopsi wrote:What on earth are you on about, what game do you mean?Swagg_Johnson wrote:LOL @ a penalty being given in the 16th minute when the game is tied 1-1 killing the game off.. You're a fxcking comedian
And I quote "Messi hacked down in the box against Valencia, ref gave goal kick, would have killed the game" .. Look at the time, 16 minutes into the game
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It would have been Rami's second yellow.Swagg_Johnson wrote:jiopsi wrote:What on earth are you on about, what game do you mean?Swagg_Johnson wrote:LOL @ a penalty being given in the 16th minute when the game is tied 1-1 killing the game off.. You're a fxcking comedian
And I quote "Messi hacked down in the box against Valencia, ref gave goal kick, would have killed the game" .. Look at the time, 16 minutes into the game
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jiopsi wrote:It would have been Rami's second yellow.Swagg_Johnson wrote:jiopsi wrote:What on earth are you on about, what game do you mean?Swagg_Johnson wrote:LOL @ a penalty being given in the 16th minute when the game is tied 1-1 killing the game off.. You're a fxcking comedian
And I quote "Messi hacked down in the box against Valencia, ref gave goal kick, would have killed the game" .. Look at the time, 16 minutes into the game
It ain't over until the fat lady sings
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Well no, but we are going with probabilities here.Swagg_Johnson wrote:jiopsi wrote:It would have been Rami's second yellow.Swagg_Johnson wrote:jiopsi wrote:What on earth are you on about, what game do you mean?Swagg_Johnson wrote:LOL @ a penalty being given in the 16th minute when the game is tied 1-1 killing the game off.. You're a fxcking comedian
And I quote "Messi hacked down in the box against Valencia, ref gave goal kick, would have killed the game" .. Look at the time, 16 minutes into the game
It ain't over until the fat lady sings
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Yes, I think I know who it is, but I didn't want to accuse anybody wrongly D<Kevacious wrote:I think it's extremely obvious who it is, but since (most) of us live in a world where the legal system abides by the motto "innocent until proven guilty", I won't explicitly name who it is.beatrixasdfghjk. wrote:Which childish troll is down-voting everything?
I give up .
Now can we please /thread?
And Babun's still alive.
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jiopsi wrote:Well no, but we are going with probabilities here.Swagg_Johnson wrote:jiopsi wrote:It would have been Rami's second yellow.Swagg_Johnson wrote:jiopsi wrote:What on earth are you on about, what game do you mean?Swagg_Johnson wrote:LOL @ a penalty being given in the 16th minute when the game is tied 1-1 killing the game off.. You're a fxcking comedian
And I quote "Messi hacked down in the box against Valencia, ref gave goal kick, would have killed the game" .. Look at the time, 16 minutes into the game
It ain't over until the fat lady sings
Then next time write "would have probably killed the game"
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Woops, knew that, just forgot to change the ole sig.beatrixasdfghjk. wrote:Yes, I think I know who it is, but I didn't want to accuse anybody wrongly D<Kevacious wrote:I think it's extremely obvious who it is, but since (most) of us live in a world where the legal system abides by the motto "innocent until proven guilty", I won't explicitly name who it is.beatrixasdfghjk. wrote:Which childish troll is down-voting everything?
I give up .
Now can we please /thread?
And Babun's still alive.
Cheers for the heads up
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Next time will probably come soon, probably already in the next round.Swagg_Johnson wrote:jiopsi wrote:Well no, but we are going with probabilities here.Swagg_Johnson wrote:jiopsi wrote:It would have been Rami's second yellow.Swagg_Johnson wrote:jiopsi wrote:What on earth are you on about, what game do you mean?Swagg_Johnson wrote:LOL @ a penalty being given in the 16th minute when the game is tied 1-1 killing the game off.. You're a fxcking comedian
And I quote "Messi hacked down in the box against Valencia, ref gave goal kick, would have killed the game" .. Look at the time, 16 minutes into the game
It ain't over until the fat lady sings
Then next time write "would have probably killed the game"
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jiopsi wrote:Can you still answer, before you bail out, did you see the swinging movement of the right leg?Giovanni10 wrote:jiopsi wrote:So you didn't see with your 20/20 vision the swinging movement of Messi right leg? Watch just the right leg, you can see that it effects Messi's balance and completely breaks down his rhythm.Giovanni10 wrote:jiopsi wrote:Just watch the clip more carefully, Messi get kicked in the achillestendon so hard that the other player falls down. Nothing happens to Messi? If you watch it you can see Messis right leg makes a swinging movement because of it, and it breaks down his rhythm. That is a clear foul, and penalty should have been given. Red from a such wreckles kick would not have been bad call either.Giovanni10 wrote:To me it appears as though the defender trips himself up in the coming together with Messi. I don't understand how you can use so much "force" in a tackle that you fall over as a result but nothing happens to the opponent? that doesn't make any sense at all, clearly if there was enough contact then he should have gone down as a result, but, and I'll say it again to really drive the point home: he still takes a couple more solid steps before jumping to the ground. those are hardly ever given.Now you have.Giovanni10 wrote:Well its been a while now, and I still haven't received a response to my argument about the 3rd Barca penalty claim.
Sorry Jiopsi, I have a big screen, I've used google chrome's zoom function and I have perfect 20/20 vision. I will confirm that you have a case for the 1st and 2nd penalty claims but not the 3rd. There is no real force, there is no tramp, the guy flicks out his leg and then falls because he gets tripped up and tangled a bit with Messi. Think about what you and Lionel Messi have just said: he kicks Messi so hard that he(the defender) falls over. Messiah, is like what? 4ft11 and weighs 55kgs tops? I can see how with full force you can "kick" a brick wall and fall over, but not Messi I'm afraid. The defender goes down because he gets hooked up in the attempted challenge.
I imagine we will not be able to settle this dispute, because you have obviously seen something different to me, so its basically a difference of opinion. The gifs, even though they exclude penalty claims not given for Madrid and ones given to Barca, were still a nice find and therefore I must conclude:Well there is clear pattern here, maybe it will eventually evolve in factual conspiracy.THERE IS A REFEREEING CONSPIRACY IN LA LIGA, IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED THAT FRANCO IS BEHIND IT, HE HAS BEEN CONTACTING THE SPANISH REF ASSOCIATION FROM THE GRAVE
I thought you were only kidding about the match-fixing insinuation? You're actually serious? Wow, ok clearly there has been a misunderstanding here, I see no more profit in contributing to this thread.
I do not understand the point you are trying to make about this "swinging leg" I'm not sure you're sure about which part of the coming together warrants the penalty decision, first you said it was blatant kick at the achilles, and now I have to spot a "swinging leg". There is contact, there is not enough of it to go down, Messi still plants his right leg, then plants his left leg then does a silly little jump to the ground in what actually looks like a half-attempt to win the ball back from the covering defender that comes across... then he swings around to give the ref some puppy eyes. That is the whole incident here.
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