Iceman wrote:I'm talking about him as a defensive midfielder, which is the topic. If you want to talk about something else, then go make another thread.

Not to mention, he was the best player on the pitch in the first half

This.

And this thread, a disappointing knee-jerk from an otherwise fine poster.

Alex Song = what Arsenal need.

Lex wrote:

Ade wrote:I've never rated Song ever

Then, clearly, you don't know anything about football

Song for me is like Carragher a couple years ago overrated by those who rate him and underrated by those who don't

always rated song. he is definitely one of the better DMs out there.. not a great match from him today but next to ramsey this is the person the thread should be about.

Sushi Master wrote:If you want to put the blame on someone today, Santos was SHIT. Both of Blackburn goals came from his frakked in the ass positioning.

Santos is always poor at defending.So not really surprising Arsenal should never have bought him.

Santos was great for me lol.

BeautifulGame wrote:

Sushi Master wrote:If you want to put the blame on someone today, Santos was SHIT. Both of Blackburn goals came from his frakked in the ass positioning.

Santos is always poor at defending.So not really surprising Arsenal should never have bought him.

I have already seen him play, but today was kindergarden level. A blind man could have a better positioning sence.

Wenger's set piece defense went back to it's usual efficiency today.

1st goal was Santos fault.
2nd Goal his fault he didn't expect defender to miss it.
3rd Goal was offside
4th goal he could of done better but still defender should of cleared that cross and Woj missed the cross too leaving the goal open.
Clearly he is the worst defensive midfielder of all time, even though he was fantastic against Dortmund.
Ramsey is also responsible for defending as he is playing the same role as Wilshere played last season so it's his fault as well.

Song has played more than one game is his career so evaluating his performance from one of them and calling him bad makes you pretty stupid.

Santos is still not match fit so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now

Lex wrote:Santos is still not match fit so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now

Should have played Gibbs today, then.

Although it is Blackburn...

Was Gibbs on the bench? I would've taken Santos off at half time

I dont think match fitness influences a defender's positional sense.Its not like he looked rusty and even looked very good when going forward.

Also how everyone rate Arteta's performances?

Lex wrote:Was Gibbs on the bench? I would've taken Santos off at half time

He was, but I understand not subbing him in that early considering it's only left back and Sagna was already carrying a knock.

Don't understand how anyone could say this thread is knee-jerk...? I've been saying Song is a terrible DEFENSIVE midfielder since the old forums were still up.

I think he has enough ability to play in a box to box role but a DM he is not. His awful positioning and lack of discipline has been costing Arsenal goals on the counter for years now.

Even Wilshere is more disciplined than he is.

Why would u expect WC defending from santos who was making his debut ffs ? And we had mertesacker who has played like 2 matches so far ? Defence isnt made in 2 weeks. Takes time for everyone to gel together

He's great as a DM, actually. It's when he goes box to box that he becomes shitty, since he leaves acres of space behind him. None of the goals were his fault apart from the fluke, and the first goal was his assist.

You clearly don't watch many Arsenal matches.

Guess in hindsight, you're right. Chamakh coming on meant we scored a consolation goal and if only somebody got on the end of one of Walcott's awesome crosses today

Still, i honestly believe if Gibbs were on, two of the four they scored wouldn't have gone in today so it's catch 22 a.k.a pick your poison.

deezydeez wrote:always rated song. he is definitely one of the better DMs out there.. not a great match from him today but next to ramsey this is the person the thread should be about.

Yeah, Ramsey was awful today. Kept going down the right flank for some bizarre reason leaving Arsenal's right side exposed time after time and none of his Hollywood balls actually came off. Would love to see the statistics for his passing accuracy today.

He didn't look like he was fit though to be fair to him.

Gil wrote:Don't understand how anyone could say this thread is knee-jerk...? I've been saying Song is a terrible DEFENSIVE midfielder since the old forums were still up.

I think he has enough ability to play in a box to box role but a DM he is not. His awful positioning and lack of discipline has been costing Arsenal goals on the counter for years now.

Even Wilshere is more disciplined than he is.

I think Song has been doing just fine as a DM for a team like Arsenal, who are looking to play possession football. You don't need an out-and-out DM then, but someone who is versatile, imo. There are pure DMs I'd take over Song any day of the week, but as for Arsenal, I think he's a very good fit for them and doesn't really deserve a thread like this one.

There was so much fail, Gibbs should of played Santos was not match fit, Coquelin should of come on instead of Djourou as he actually can play RB and is more equipped to deal with Hoilett's pace and trickery. Walcott should of started pretty obvious as Blackburn's wing backs are slow. This thread should of been on Ramsey his passing was off and he didn't help Song at all breaking up attacks.

Arsenal were abysmal in second half today, but Song had a good game. He couldn't have done anything about the own goal, unlike Koscielny whose reaction was just retarded.

They also stuggled offensively in the second half. In the first half Arteta was able to dictate proceedings, he started nearly every Arsenal attack. Blackburn adjusted their tactics accordingly, and Arteta was completely invisible in the second half. This turned out to be enough.

Also might want to consider the psychological effect of an offside goal and two freak own goals on a team with an already shaken morale, and like a cherry on top, Sagna's injury.

Keane immediately brought on Olson, which helped his team in two ways: one, Olson is much faster than Givet whose position he took over, and thus more capable to defend vs Gervinho (and later Walcott), and two: he created a stronger offensive potential on that side, where Olson, Yakubu and Hoilett focused Blackburn's attacks from then on, in order to take advantage of Djourou's playing out-of-position. Djourou was raped by Olson for the fourth goal, even though this remarkably happened on the other side of the pitch.

Iceman wrote:You are all idiots.

i completely agree with this post
i think he was outstanding against BlackBurn

E should be asking, what happened to ramsey in the second half??? we were in full control in the frist when he was dominating midfield and then i the second he couldnt hit a pass fo his life.

Guys calm down. According to the Gunners on this board Song's better then Yaya Toure.

dnmac4 wrote:Guys calm down. According to the Gunners on this board Song's better then Yaya Toure.

I clearly remember that thread and most Gunners conceeded Toure is better than Song.

Was there a thread comparing Song to Yaya?