@Kickmars.....I'd buy him for 20M right now, without thinking twice about it.

As much of a miserable, unfaithful c*nt he is, I still have a soft spot for him and found my face wet watching "Goodbye Fernando" videos on youtube at 4AM last night. We'll get him scoring again!

english_jewel wrote:

kick mars wrote:

english_jewel wrote:

kick mars wrote:This might be my knee jerking but I would be willing to sell Torres for 20m right now....he is still a fantastic player but my pateince has run out and he doesn't fit our system, hopefully Roman learns his lesson from this transfer.

Sheva says hi

I would have thought Roman learned his lesson from Sheva but obivously not.

You do realize how many Sheva's/Torres's his wealth can buy right?

FFP FTW

I know, but I still feel he should be smarter with his money as opposed to acting like a kid half the time and buying the fanciest toy there is.

Sepi wrote:@Kickmars.....I'd buy him for 20M right now, without thinking twice about it.

He's crap, you don't want him back.

I no longer have any patience left for him. He's earning 160k a week while Chelsea fans have to listen to taunts. F*** off.

english_jewel wrote:

Sepi wrote:@Kickmars.....I'd buy him for 20M right now, without thinking twice about it.

He's crap, you don't want him back.

I no longer have any patience left for him. He's earning 160k a week while Chelsea fans have to listen to taunts. F*** off.

o come on man. Get behind the lad. I know he is on massive wages, but I really can't figure it out.

He was devastatingly good in his 4 games under Kenny before that dark night of Jan 28th. He murdered Everton, scored a beauty vs Blackpool, scored another 2 vs Wolves, and scored a perfectly correct goal disallowed vs Fulham, but got the assist for our eventual winner with a great turn.

Maybe he hasn't recovered from that Agger elbow yet ? , I was hearing rumours that he hasn't settled in London yet.

Still very early to judge 'em, but despite Suarez being a much more complete player than Torres, he is NOWHERE near as clinical as Torres was. That pisses me off and make me want Nando back

Strikers live and die with confidence. Mario Gomez was a laughing stock @ Bayern first, now look at him. Hope both of them score a league goal next week (Though Andy has already scored this season )

KAKA > TORRES

tmo always said it, yet no one believed him.

Best thing Torres has done is convince Mata to join us.

now only if Mata could convince Banega

What if Torres' master plan was to be sold in January, make Liverpool some money, flop and be back in a year or so......

Doesn't hurt to dream

Messiakanino wrote:What if Torres' master plan was to be sold in January, make Liverpool some money, flop and be back in a year or so......

Doesn't hurt to dream

I've been saying that for a while. The new Ian Rush.

He will be back.. he has time!

Chelsea finds the replacement for LFC, Carroll, and NUFC gives a price tag of 35m for him.

Chelsea buys Torres for 50m, gives the money to LFC. LFC just has to re-transfer the money to NUFC cos Chelsea did all the transfer stuff for them... Is that what happened? Is it even legal for Chelsea to buy players for Pool ?

Just curious.

iNFINITY9910 wrote:He will be back.. he has time!

Chelsea finds the replacement for LFC, Carroll, and NUFC gives a price tag of 35m for him.

Chelsea buys Torres for 50m, gives the money to LFC. LFC just has to re-transfer the money to NUFC cos Chelsea did all the transfer stuff for them... Is that what happened? Is it even legal for Chelsea to buy players for Pool ?

Just curious.

No. Liverpool bought him.

Sepi wrote:

english_jewel wrote:

Sepi wrote:@Kickmars.....I'd buy him for 20M right now, without thinking twice about it.

He's crap, you don't want him back.

I no longer have any patience left for him. He's earning 160k a week while Chelsea fans have to listen to taunts. F*** off.

o come on man. Get behind the lad. I know he is on massive wages, but I really can't figure it out.

He was devastatingly good in his 4 games under Kenny before that dark night of Jan 28th. He murdered Everton, scored a beauty vs Blackpool, scored another 2 vs Wolves, and scored a perfectly correct goal disallowed vs Fulham, but got the assist for our eventual winner with a great turn.

Maybe he hasn't recovered from that Agger elbow yet ? , I was hearing rumours that he hasn't settled in London yet.

Still very early to judge 'em, but despite Suarez being a much more complete player than Torres, he is NOWHERE near as clinical as Torres was. That pisses me off and make me want Nando back

Strikers live and die with confidence. Mario Gomez was a laughing stock @ Bayern first, now look at him. Hope both of them score a league goal next week (Though Andy has already scored this season )

Other then other things about him what annoys me the most is that because of him a committed guy like Lukaku has to give up his place on the squad list. Lukaku would offer twice as much as him, plus we don't need to buy a creative midfielder for Lukaku. For Torres we need to spend like 60m more to have others spoon feeding him.

iNFINITY9910 wrote:He will be back.. he has time!

Chelsea finds the replacement for LFC, Carroll, and NUFC gives a price tag of 35m for him.

Chelsea buys Torres for 50m, gives the money to LFC. LFC just has to re-transfer the money to NUFC cos Chelsea did all the transfer stuff for them... Is that what happened? Is it even legal for Chelsea to buy players for Pool ?

Just curious.

Basically. The negotiations happened between Chelsea and Newcastle. Had Chelsea NOT agreed a fee for one of our targets (Carroll, Llorente, etc) we would not have let Torres leave.

iNFINITY9910 wrote:He will be back.. he has time!

Chelsea finds the replacement for LFC, Carroll, and NUFC gives a price tag of 35m for him.

Chelsea buys Torres for 50m, gives the money to LFC. LFC just has to re-transfer the money to NUFC cos Chelsea did all the transfer stuff for them... Is that what happened? Is it even legal for Chelsea to buy players for Pool ?

Just curious.

Eventually, the night Torres handed his request, we independently bid 38M for Lorente, which was rejected by Bilbao. Then we realized, we can't keep Torres and we have 1 day left, and don't want to look like sore losers in the end, and hence JWH and Roman negotiated both deals. Mike Ashley the big winner poor Newcastle Fans thought that money would go towards transfers.

One thing is for sure though, as it stands....If things that happened between Jan 28th- to Feb 1st of 2011 hadn't happened, all 3 clubs of CFC, LFC, and NUFC would have been better off. Long-term, the great force of time will tell.

Its nonsense to say Torres is finished as some are assuming.He is still a class striker.All torres needs is a run of 3-4 golas then he will get his confidence.Anyone remember how Rooney was rubbished as finished last season when he was going through a horror form and now suddenly he become the best striker in the world.

iNFINITY9910 wrote:He will be back.. he has time!

Chelsea finds the replacement for LFC, Carroll, and NUFC gives a price tag of 35m for him.

Chelsea buys Torres for 50m, gives the money to LFC. LFC just has to re-transfer the money to NUFC cos Chelsea did all the transfer stuff for them... Is that what happened? Is it even legal for Chelsea to buy players for Pool ?

Just curious.

Don't bring that up...you will be accused of ignorance and tire a few people otherwise.

BeautifulGame wrote:Its nonsense to say Torres is finished as some are assuming.He is still a class striker.All torres needs is a run of 3-4 golas then he will get his confidence.Anyone remember how Rooney was rubbished as finished last season when he was going through a horror form and now suddenly he become the best striker in the world.

:bow

can't remember the last time you talked non-sense tbh

BeautifulGame wrote:Its nonsense to say Torres is finished as some are assuming.He is still a class striker.All torres needs is a run of 3-4 golas then he will get his confidence.Anyone remember how Rooney was rubbished as finished last season when he was going through a horror form and now suddenly he become the best striker in the world.

Very well then..I shall continue waiting...I give him until Fulham and then my time with him is up.

iNFINITY9910 wrote:He will be back.. he has time!

Chelsea finds the replacement for LFC, Carroll, and NUFC gives a price tag of 35m for him.

Chelsea buys Torres for 50m, gives the money to LFC. LFC just has to re-transfer the money to NUFC cos Chelsea did all the transfer stuff for them... Is that what happened? Is it even legal for Chelsea to buy players for Pool ?

Just curious.

Frankly what i believe happened is negotiations for Torres and Carrol were running parallel and once Newcastle upped their price we upped ours for Torres too.Basically If Carroll was sold to us for 25 mil ( which was our first bid) we would have sold Torres for 40 mil too.

I dont think chelsea was negotiating on belhalf of us but they certainly paid the excessive amount for us indirectly we had to pay for Carroll due to the deadline day situation.Well atleast thats what our owner said.

Read the quote, mate. He specifically states that we only negotiated the difference between the two prices (the 15m).

The one thing Kenny has gone on and on about in every press conference relating to Andy is that he signed for 5.5 years. He admitted that it would be silly to expect instantaneous results. The kid is what, 21? Give him a break. He has barely played a full season in the PL and people are already writing him off.

I'll admit he has had a slow start with us, but I expect time to do its job with him.

'Nando on the other hand, is/was considered world class. I would've expected him to start scoring goals this season. However, a bad run of form seems to have hit him. I have a soft spot for the guy. I never considered him a traitor. And I hope he regains the kind of form he had with us. When all is said and done, I believe he does deserve at least one major honor in his career; be it the league or CL.

RedOranje wrote:Read the quote, mate. He specifically states that we only negotiated the difference between the two prices (the 15m).

Ya but i meant was we agreed a 15 + a striker replacement for Torres with Chelsea before negotiating for Carroll ( like u said ) but we carried out the negotiations for Carroll for ourselves.

I just dont think Chelsea ever got involved in the negotiations for Carroll they just paid the fee for Carroll plus 15 mil to us like infinity said.They just paid the extra fee for Torres once we agreed for Carroll.

Sepi wrote:

iNFINITY9910 wrote:He will be back.. he has time!

Chelsea finds the replacement for LFC, Carroll, and NUFC gives a price tag of 35m for him.

Chelsea buys Torres for 50m, gives the money to LFC. LFC just has to re-transfer the money to NUFC cos Chelsea did all the transfer stuff for them... Is that what happened? Is it even legal for Chelsea to buy players for Pool ?

Just curious.

Eventually, the night Torres handed his request, we independently bid 38M for Lorente, which was rejected by Bilbao. Then we realized, we can't keep Torres and we have 1 day left, and don't want to look like sore losers in the end, and hence JWH and Roman negotiated both deals. Mike Ashley the big winner poor Newcastle Fans thought that money would go towards transfers.

One thing is for sure though, as it stands....If things that happened between Jan 28th- to Feb 1st of 2011 hadn't happened, all 3 clubs of CFC, LFC, and NUFC would have been better off. Long-term, the great force of time will tell.

Cant agree more with this tbh. If we didnt get Torres in January we probably would have got Aguero this summer. And all those people who were doubting him are silent now. Aguero was the ideal man needed for Chelsea as well, for the behind the striker role. LFC would have scored goals for fun if they had Torres. NUFC would be challenging for the 5th or 6th spot with Carroll Its a crazy world!

Aguero would have blocked Danny IMO.

Danny is not a winger, he is an wing-forward or CF. For Aguero to play it would have had to be 4-2-3-1 which IMO would mean playing Danny in too much of a defencive position unless we played him in CF.

Nah Aguero would play where Mata is playing... And we would have prolly won the league last season as well tbh.

You mean, no Mata if we got Aguero?

Haha.. most likely.. as much as Mata is awesome for us atm.. Aguero would have done the same or even better.