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Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
VibeTribe wrote:Not at all,in fact I didn't even go into Messi v Maradona,just giving counter arguments to che...
Not even saying Messi won't be a bigger legend,but it's ridiculous how everyone is trying to say Messi is at the same level as Maradona for NT.
Who says that lol?
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
Damn, I don't think anyone can argue. Maradona completely kicks Messi's ass in the NT. Hell, it's a common argument for people already calling Messi the best ever.
Of course, we don't know what Messi will do in the next 6-8 years, so that is what people are complaining about in this topic.
Of course, we don't know what Messi will do in the next 6-8 years, so that is what people are complaining about in this topic.
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
che wrote:VibeTribe wrote:Not at all,in fact I didn't even go into Messi v Maradona,just giving counter arguments to che...
Not even saying Messi won't be a bigger legend,but it's ridiculous how everyone is trying to say Messi is at the same level as Maradona for NT.
yes, because you obviously saw what maradona and messi were/are doing in every single of their national games
i'm off to talk to a brick wall
How about writing one sentence without sarcasm and tell me what's your point.No I obviously didn't see those games,since you apparently have why don't you give me that marvelous insight you have over me.
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
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How about writing one sentence without sarcasm and tell me what's your point.No I obviously didn't see those games,since you apparently have why don't you give me that marvelous insight you have over me.
my point is that you can't compare how good messi was for argentina vs how good maradona was for argentina because you haven't seen the *bleep* games
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:lol!: @ peoples logic in here, comparing a retired players track record against a player who is 24, what a fail thread
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
Lionel Messi didnt live up to his expectations so far.
Yes, playmaker but who cares, he needs to carry his team to the next level.
One example... while messi was playing for 90 min ... Pastore changed the game when he came in... isnt that a shame for the best EVA EVA EVA?
Yes, playmaker but who cares, he needs to carry his team to the next level.
One example... while messi was playing for 90 min ... Pastore changed the game when he came in... isnt that a shame for the best EVA EVA EVA?
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
If you benched Messi then put him in, he would change the game as well, obviously.highburied wrote:Lionel Messi didnt live up to his expectations so far.
Yes, playmaker but who cares, he needs to carry his team to the next level.
One example... while messi was playing for 90 min ... Pastore changed the game when he came in... isnt that a shame for the best EVA EVA EVA?
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
Lionel Messi wrote:If you benched Messi then put him in, he would change the game as well, obviously.highburied wrote:Lionel Messi didnt live up to his expectations so far.
Yes, playmaker but who cares, he needs to carry his team to the next level.
One example... while messi was playing for 90 min ... Pastore changed the game when he came in... isnt that a shame for the best EVA EVA EVA?
Im not sure anymore...
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
What a stupid argument. Higuain's per game ratio (11 goals in 17 games - 0.64 ratio) for Argentina is better than Messi's . So does it mean Higuain is better player for Argentina than Messi? Messi is still best player for Argentina, every match he show man of the match performance.
Btw 8 out of Higuain's 11 goals created by Messi. And in last 2 years 70% of Argentina goals created by Messi. I think it means something
Btw 8 out of Higuain's 11 goals created by Messi. And in last 2 years 70% of Argentina goals created by Messi. I think it means something
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
harhar11 wrote:Crimson wrote:Batigol <3
It proves that for Argentina Messi sucks (by his lofty standards), but for Barcelona he is the best in the world
Your post proves that you don't watch Argentina if you think that messi sucks for them just because his goal scoring record..
Messi is a playmaker for argentina, which is why almost all scored by argentina is created by messi..
Why would Argentina play Messi as an AM and not a striker if he can kick 38, 47 and 53 goals in successive seasons for Barcelona?
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Why would Argentina play Messi as an AM and not a striker if he can kick 38, 47 and 53 goals in successive seasons for Barcelona?
Terrible coaching.
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
Il bet If I had a chance to coach Argentina, I would have won a World Cup already lol.
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Crimson wrote:harhar11 wrote:Crimson wrote:Batigol <3
It proves that for Argentina Messi sucks (by his lofty standards), but for Barcelona he is the best in the world
Your post proves that you don't watch Argentina if you think that messi sucks for them just because his goal scoring record..
Messi is a playmaker for argentina, which is why almost all scored by argentina is created by messi..
Messi is supposedly the worlds best player who can't perform for his country when they need him most.
Riquelme was a playmaker who scored goals and vital ones too and help his team in competitive matches.
We are talking about "the best player in the world" and according to alot of Barcelona fans "the best player ever" who can't get it done on the world stage.
People need a dose of reality ffs.
Riquelme scored 17 goals for argentina, the same amount that messi has scored for argentina...
And just because messi isn't scoring goal galore for argentina doesn't mean that he isn't performing for the NT or ar you telling me that he has to scored lots of goals for argentina to perform? Going by your logic, Iniesta isn't performing either for Spain
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
Argentina is becoming more and more like England nowadays.
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The xcx wrote:so Lionel Messi flops in NT, everyone knows that.
at least he is doing great as a playmaker
un like ronaldo
who is shit for portugal
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
Argentina should take on American Samoa, Messi would get like 8 goals and then everyone would shut up about his proformence in NT.
This thread is so full I fail and Messi hate I can't help but facepalm.
This thread is so full I fail and Messi hate I can't help but facepalm.
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
Lionel Messi wrote:BiasedMilanFan3 wrote:
Why would Argentina play Messi as an AM and not a striker if he can kick 38, 47 and 53 goals in successive seasons for Barcelona?
Terrible coaching.
he was playing as striker in first two games of copa.. in fact batista played him as false striker with tevez and lavezzi on the wings and he did give a press interview to taht effect saying that he wanted to create a good atmosphere so that messi can shine.. but then argentima were in danger of elimination and then he recalled pipa as starting striker with messi behind him and that worked..
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black mamba wrote:The xcx wrote:so Lionel Messi flops in NT, everyone knows that.
at least he is doing great as a playmaker
un like ronaldo
who is shit for portugal
since paulo bento took over ronaldo has been very good for portugal much better than between 07-10
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
Dani Alves lines up at rightback but you often see him in the opponents final third, same thing goes with Messi, sure he is technically a striker in the formation but his role is not a striker.diptiman wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:BiasedMilanFan3 wrote:
Why would Argentina play Messi as an AM and not a striker if he can kick 38, 47 and 53 goals in successive seasons for Barcelona?
Terrible coaching.
he was playing as striker in first two games of copa.. in fact batista played him as false striker with tevez and lavezzi on the wings and he did give a press interview to taht effect saying that he wanted to create a good atmosphere so that messi can shine.. but then argentima were in danger of elimination and then he recalled pipa as starting striker with messi behind him and that worked..
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
Lionel Messi wrote:Dani Alves lines up at rightback but you often see him in the opponents final third, same thing goes with Messi, sure he is technically a striker in the formation but his role is not a striker.diptiman wrote:Lionel Messi wrote:BiasedMilanFan3 wrote:
Why would Argentina play Messi as an AM and not a striker if he can kick 38, 47 and 53 goals in successive seasons for Barcelona?
Terrible coaching.
he was playing as striker in first two games of copa.. in fact batista played him as false striker with tevez and lavezzi on the wings and he did give a press interview to taht effect saying that he wanted to create a good atmosphere so that messi can shine.. but then argentima were in danger of elimination and then he recalled pipa as starting striker with messi behind him and that worked..
whatever.. he still does get chances at least 2 or 3 per match goal scoring ones.. youcant deny that he misses a lot of them
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Re: Argentine top 10 goalscorers compared to Messi
It's clear you don't watch Argentina. Messi doesn't play in the box at all, he rarely shoots and when he does its usually outside of the box
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Lionel Messi wrote:It's clear you don't watch Argentina. Messi doesn't play in the box at all, he rarely shoots and when he does its usually outside of the box
he does get chances lol.. one on ones too.. like the one against nigeria, and countless others.. you cant just put off every valid arguement by saying i dont watch argentina.. i watch argentia every time for pipita..
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