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Post by DeviAngel Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:38 pm

Emanuele Giaccherini is officially a Juventus player after he completed his move from Cesena.

The 26-year-old, who can play as a wide midfielder or a second striker, passed his medical this morning before putting pen to paper this afternoon.

Juventus agreed to hand over €6m to Cesena – to be paid over a period of three years – for the player’s registration.

However, the two clubs then agreed a co-ownership deal which will see Cesena pay €3m to the Old Lady – again over the course of three years.
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Post by salmano9 Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:09 pm

i thought its co ownership that juve will only pay 3mil with martinez going the other way
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Post by DeviAngel Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:11 pm

salmano9 wrote:i thought its co ownership that juve will only pay 3mil with martinez going the other way

We pay 3 mils for 50 % of him ...and Martinez is not involved
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Post by salmano9 Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:12 pm

why does it say 6mil then
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Post by DeviAngel Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:15 pm

salmano9 wrote:why does it say 6mil then

Juventus Football Club S.p.A. announces the agreement with A.C. Cesena S.p.A. for the definitive acquisition of the registration rights of the player Emanuele Giaccherini for a consideration of € 6 million to be paid in 3 years. At the same time, Juventus and Cesena signed a player sharing agreement (ex art. 102 bis N.O.I.F.) related to the same player for a consideration of € 3 million to be paid by Cesena in 3 years.


Because overall transaction is 6 mil ( 3 from us and 3 from Cesena) ,we payed only 3 mil on 3 yrs ...and Cesena payed us 3 mil to co-own him ...get it Very Happy ?
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Post by salmano9 Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:17 pm

ooh yeah thaanks lool, XD
I hope he is worth it now hehe
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Post by CroInter Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:45 pm

Thats some *bleep* up shit right there, you buy him for 6m and then sell 50% of that same player to the same club for 3m, why didn't Juve just bought his 50% in the 1st place and be done with it?

And btw Matri, Toni, Amauri, Iaquinta, Pasquato, Quaq, Vucinic, Del Piero, Martinez, Krasic, Pepe and now Giaccherini all for 4 places on the field, you really need to get rid of some dead weight there, and Juve doesn't play Europe, i think some players might complain during the season for not playing....
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:00 pm

Toni and ADP will Retire/Leave next year anyway.
Pepe will be Sold/Loaned or just a backup, backup option.
Iaquinta and Amauri are as good as gone.
Martinez is part of this deal I think?
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Post by cool_wirya Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:25 pm

welcome , u need all the luck in the world to stay in juve
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Post by Joe Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:26 pm

CroInter wrote:Thats some *bleep* up shit right there, you buy him for 6m and then sell 50% of that same player to the same club for 3m, why didn't Juve just bought his 50% in the 1st place and be done with it?

And btw Matri, Toni, Amauri, Iaquinta, Pasquato, Quaq, Vucinic, Del Piero, Martinez, Krasic, Pepe and now Giaccherini all for 4 places on the field, you really need to get rid of some dead weight there, and Juve doesn't play Europe, i think some players might complain during the season for not playing....

Because what if Cesena don't want to buy him back, or don't have the funds too, He's 100% ours, rather than initially co-owning him and having to go through all that hassle to buy or sell his half.

Yes we do have a lot of death weight but its hard to sell them because they don't want to leave because they're getting paid quite handsomely over here, and it's not beneficial for them to leave.

Iaquinta, Amauri, Martinez, Grygera, and Grosso would be beautiful to sell right now, sadly I don't think we'll be able too, and their contracts will slowly run out.
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Post by CroInter Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:31 pm

Joe wrote:
CroInter wrote:Thats some *bleep* up shit right there, you buy him for 6m and then sell 50% of that same player to the same club for 3m, why didn't Juve just bought his 50% in the 1st place and be done with it?

And btw Matri, Toni, Amauri, Iaquinta, Pasquato, Quaq, Vucinic, Del Piero, Martinez, Krasic, Pepe and now Giaccherini all for 4 places on the field, you really need to get rid of some dead weight there, and Juve doesn't play Europe, i think some players might complain during the season for not playing....

Because what if Cesena don't want to buy him back, or don't have the funds too, He's 100% ours, rather than initially co-owning him and having to go through all that hassle to buy or sell his half.


Wait what?

Juve got 50% right away.
Juve gets 100% and then sells 50% back to same team.


Its the same thing, Juve owns 50% of his contract, and Juve would own 50% if they got it straight away.
Dude i dont think you understand how co-ownership works.
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Post by Luca Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:41 pm

CroInter wrote:Thats some *bleep* up shit right there, you buy him for 6m and then sell 50% of that same player to the same club for 3m, why didn't Juve just bought his 50% in the 1st place and be done with it?

And btw Matri, Toni, Amauri, Iaquinta, Pasquato, Quaq, Vucinic, Del Piero, Martinez, Krasic, Pepe and now Giaccherini all for 4 places on the field, you really need to get rid of some dead weight there, and Juve doesn't play Europe, i think some players might complain during the season for not playing....

Martinez is gone in the deal
Amauri will surely be gone
Iaquinta and Toni both should be gone but 1 could remain
Pepe should leave too in all honesty

Giaccherini can play as a winger on either side as well as a SS
Pasquato- SS/LW
Krasic- RW
Quagliarella- SS/ST
Matri- ST
Vucinic- LW/SS
Del Piero- SS

Really, Matri, Krasic, Vucinic + Pasquato or a new LW is the core group


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Post by Joe Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:43 pm

Juve bought 100% of him, but Cesena has the option to buy 50% of him back for 3M.

Rather than Juventus buying him for 3M to get 50%, we opted to pay 6M to get 100%.

Buying him 100% makes less headaches, rather than paying 3M for 50%, to get half of him. If we would want to buy the other 50% of him at a later date, we would have to go into a blind auction if we can't agree on a fee.

Co-ownerships are stupid, this one just makes a bit more sense.
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:46 pm

Joe wrote:Juve bought 100% of him, but Cesena has the option to buy 50% of him back for 3M.

Rather than Juventus buying him for 3M to get 50%, we opted to pay 6M to get 100%.

Buying him 100% makes less headaches, rather than paying 3M for 50%, to get half of him. If we would want to buy the other 50% of him at a later date, we would have to go into a blind auction if we can't agree on a fee.

Co-ownerships are stupid, this one just makes a bit more sense.

How's this possible, Devi just posted above that the full amount is 6m in which makes it 100%, so no we didn't get a 100% as we co-own him as Cesena as well. Both parties own 50% of the player, nobody has 100%.

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Post by Juventude Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:46 pm

Luca wrote:
CroInter wrote:Thats some *bleep* up shit right there, you buy him for 6m and then sell 50% of that same player to the same club for 3m, why didn't Juve just bought his 50% in the 1st place and be done with it?

And btw Matri, Toni, Amauri, Iaquinta, Pasquato, Quaq, Vucinic, Del Piero, Martinez, Krasic, Pepe and now Giaccherini all for 4 places on the field, you really need to get rid of some dead weight there, and Juve doesn't play Europe, i think some players might complain during the season for not playing....

Martinez is gone in the deal
Amauri will surely be gone
Iaquinta and Toni both should be gone but 1 could remain
Pepe should leave to in all honesty

Giaccherini can play as a winger on either side as well as a SS
Pasquato- SS/LW
Krasic- RW
Quagliarella- SS/ST
Matri- ST
Vucinic- LW/SS
Del Piero- SS

Really, Matri, Krasic, Vucinic + Pasquato or a new LW is the core group

I think Toni will stay. He only has a year left and his salary is only like 1.5 million euros. Outside of Matri, we don't have many tall pure strikers. It doesn't hurt to keep Toni around in case of emergencies.
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Post by Luca Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:47 pm

Juventude wrote:
Luca wrote:
CroInter wrote:Thats some *bleep* up shit right there, you buy him for 6m and then sell 50% of that same player to the same club for 3m, why didn't Juve just bought his 50% in the 1st place and be done with it?

And btw Matri, Toni, Amauri, Iaquinta, Pasquato, Quaq, Vucinic, Del Piero, Martinez, Krasic, Pepe and now Giaccherini all for 4 places on the field, you really need to get rid of some dead weight there, and Juve doesn't play Europe, i think some players might complain during the season for not playing....

Martinez is gone in the deal
Amauri will surely be gone
Iaquinta and Toni both should be gone but 1 could remain
Pepe should leave to in all honesty

Giaccherini can play as a winger on either side as well as a SS
Pasquato- SS/LW
Krasic- RW
Quagliarella- SS/ST
Matri- ST
Vucinic- LW/SS
Del Piero- SS

Really, Matri, Krasic, Vucinic + Pasquato or a new LW is the core group

I think Toni will stay. He only has a year left and his salary is only like 1.5 million euros. Outside of Matri, we don't have many tall pure strikers. It doesn't hurt to keep Toni around in case of emergencies.

Better that way, more dynamic players- speed kills

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:47 pm

Toni is staying, he's not going anywhere.

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Post by Luca Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:48 pm

sciacca wrote:Toni is staying, he's not going anywhere.

No one said he was....
"should" =/= "will"

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:49 pm

Luca wrote:
sciacca wrote:Toni is staying, he's not going anywhere.

No one said he was....
"should" =/= "will"

I know, my point is to make it clear, he won't wether he should or he will.

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Post by DeviAngel Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:50 pm

bad news MARTINEZ AIN'T PART OF THIS DEAL !

btw guys don't get angry i got to write this with big letters and caps lock :

SO WE LOVE AND BEG FOR THE PLAYERS WHO REFUSED US AFTER GRANTING THEM EVERY PRIVILEGE FOR CARS , MOTOR TRACKS , F1 TRACKS ... CALL THEM HEIR OF ADP AND OFFER THEM 6-7.5 MILS FOR SALARY ( AGUERO,ROSSI,DZEKO) ....THEY REFUSE US AND WE STILL 'LOVE THEM' ...

BUT WHEN A PLAYER WHO DIES FOR THIS SHIRT , LOVES THIS SHIRT LEAVES THE HEART ON THE FIELD FOR THIS TEAM AND GIVES HIS BEST SOME OF US BOO HIM BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME SKILLS AS THE PLAYERS ABOVE ? BUT HE LOVES US AND DOES EVERYTHING THERE TO WIN AND PLAY TILL THE END ..


I TOLD GIU AND REN ON THE OLD OLD FORUMS I WOULD BETTER BE LIKE PIACENZA AND HAVE PLAEYRS THAT WILL DIE FOR THE TEAM AND LOVE THE SHIRT AND PLAY UNTIL THE END , READY TO SPIT BLOOD THAN MERCENARY ....

if that costs us 5 yrs 7th place I don't mind as long as the players leave their hearts on the field

FORZA GIACCHERINI,PEPE,VIDAL,PAZZIENZA,BONUCCI,ZIEGLER,LICHTSTEINER,PDC ...
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:52 pm

DeviAngel wrote:bad news MARTINEZ AIN'T PART OF THIS DEAL !

How is this bad news! We need Martinez for other swap deals, I would of blasted Marotta if he added Martinez in that deal. That's like spending 15m(12 + 5), on Giaccherini... ew. Amauri is an exception.

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Post by Juventude Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:54 pm

sciacca wrote:Toni is staying, he's not going anywhere.

Which means more awesome Luca Toni goal celebrations (hopefully).
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Post by DeviAngel Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:57 pm

"The deal means that while Juventus have bought the player's full rights now, they have agreed to sell half of those rights back to Cesena for €3m (£2.6m) if they wish at a later date."
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:58 pm

DeviAngel wrote:"The deal means that while Juventus have bought the player's full rights now, they have agreed to sell half of those rights back to Cesena for €3m (£2.6m) if they wish at a later date."
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Ah so we bough a hundred percent and sold back 50%. So then we have 50, not a 100%...

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